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2007 NALTEA Board - Mary Mitchel/NY
1/18/2007 1:54:02 PM (2359 views)
Re: 2007 NALTEA Board - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
1/19/2007 4:53:25 PM (3544 views)

NALTEA--New Faces - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2007 1:22:07 PM (2300 views)
Re: NALTEA--New Faces - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 3:48:08 PM (3497 views)

Where is this industry headed? - D/AL
1/17/2007 9:07:55 PM (2598 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 12:16:34 PM (3431 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Scott Perry/PA
1/18/2007 3:54:52 PM (3491 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
1/18/2007 10:57:07 PM (3485 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Scott Perry/PA
1/18/2007 11:29:24 PM (3405 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
1/19/2007 10:04:03 AM (3406 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - john franz/NJ
1/18/2007 3:58:42 PM (3335 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Jeanine Johnson/FL
1/18/2007 5:36:37 PM (3325 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - George Booth/OH
1/21/2007 1:07:52 AM (3446 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/21/2007 6:07:22 AM (3363 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - David Bloys/TX
1/24/2007 8:28:29 PM (3361 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/25/2007 10:00:53 AM (3350 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - George Booth/OH
1/26/2007 9:27:19 AM (3496 views)

ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/17/2007 1:22:51 PM (3568 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/17/2007 9:11:18 PM (3202 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 12:20:37 PM (3328 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/19/2007 10:16:30 AM (3204 views)

Is E-Filing Secure? - David Bloys/TX
1/16/2007 8:54:43 PM (3119 views)




Full disclosure - Chris Konzel/NY
1/16/2007 7:13:42 PM (2438 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 3:52:37 AM (3627 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Chris Konzel/NY
1/17/2007 7:13:14 AM (3449 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 7:48:17 AM (3316 views)
Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/17/2007 8:10:35 AM (3791 views)

Not a lawyer, from a purely many years real estate paralegal, former residential loan auditor for CT banks:

It is a very fine line, however, for attorney's personal representation to the purchaser/borrower or seller, the attorney is not required to disclose that fee under federal or state law to the other party or lender.  For example, the seller's attorney may be providing personal representation to the seller only, his legal advice and work product having nothing to do with the purchaser's "loan," therefore, Seller's attorney (P.O.C.) [disclosing that there is a fee, however, it is paid outside the closing transaction and that fee is nobody's business but the client's]. For example, the purchaser/borrower's attorney may NOT be the "settlement agent," "title insurance agent," or represent the lender, his legal advice and review of the documents is strictly for the client's benefit (P.O.C.).  In moldy pre-non-attorney refinance days, you would see an attorney's fee on the "settlement fee" line [fee for lender work being disclosed, borrower required to pay a fee which the lender often set] and on the attorney fee (attorney fee for additional representation such as reviewing/negotiating the purchaser & sale agreement) line of the HUD.

Kevin, correct me if I am wrong, but in a nutshell the attorney fee disclosure is for attorney services required by the lender, that benefit the lender, in connection with the mortgage loan, and paid for by the borrower.  What/how disclosed is a fine line. Over many years I've seen it crossed by lenders, attorneys, mortgage brokers, real estate agents, purchasers/sellers (such as cash back deals after the closing outside the attorneys' presence) off the settlement statement - usually without financial harm to anyone; i.e., no one but the auditor cares. Good news is on a regular basis a percentage of randomly chosen residential loan HUD-1s ARE reviewed by independent (lender and secondary market purchaser), state and federal auditors - bad things are caught eventually ... it's a matter of time, luck, and auditor knowledge, which is why over the years the HUD-1 changed and the HUD-1A appeared.

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Re: Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 8:33:14 AM (3513 views)
Re: Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Chris Konzel/NY
1/17/2007 10:42:55 PM (3547 views)

International company? - Patricia Shaw/MD
1/16/2007 2:43:57 PM (2421 views)
Re: International company? - Craig Honeker/AZ
1/16/2007 3:32:58 PM (5605 views)
Re: International company? - Dorothy Payne/NY
1/16/2007 9:51:35 PM (3791 views)

Datikala Abstract Co/Darryl Rush - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/15/2007 1:25:41 PM (2059 views)

Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 5:15:45 AM (2465 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 9:41:55 AM (3368 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 10:34:55 AM (3422 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 10:53:05 AM (3437 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Bloys/TX
1/15/2007 9:40:08 PM (5722 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 11:09:06 PM (3425 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - Jan Forster/NC
1/15/2007 11:24:54 PM (5661 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Bloys/TX
1/16/2007 12:38:45 AM (5647 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - Scott Perry/PA
1/16/2007 6:43:17 AM (3427 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/16/2007 1:42:16 PM (3401 views)

The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/14/2007 10:30:25 PM (2439 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2007 12:47:27 AM (5654 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/16/2007 7:04:23 AM (3413 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Jay Duncan/MO
1/16/2007 9:48:09 AM (3531 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/16/2007 10:28:22 AM (3413 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 6:30:10 AM (3335 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2007 9:01:48 PM (3366 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Patrick Scott/IL
1/16/2007 10:58:39 PM (3294 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/17/2007 10:41:52 AM (3418 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/17/2007 5:40:45 PM (3256 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
1/17/2007 9:08:26 PM (3386 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Kurt deVries/FL
1/18/2007 12:45:02 PM (3287 views)

ACCU-FAX AUTHENTIC FILE RETRIEVAL SERVICE - Austin Whitaker/NY
1/14/2007 10:21:01 PM (2041 views)

Online invoices - Alan Voorheis/WA
1/13/2007 6:15:56 PM (3495 views)
Re: Online invoices - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/15/2007 1:16:30 PM (3224 views)
Re: Online invoices - Alan Voorheis/WA
1/17/2007 9:19:14 AM (3195 views)

Oneida County Pulls Plug on Internet Records - David Bloys/TX
1/13/2007 1:25:59 PM (3100 views)

Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/11/2007 1:41:04 PM (3752 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Chris Konzel/NY
1/11/2007 8:26:41 PM (3607 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/12/2007 5:04:09 AM (5880 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/12/2007 1:36:55 PM (3539 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - george Hubka/MI
1/12/2007 7:42:53 PM (3475 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/12/2007 9:34:03 PM (3438 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 10:37:42 AM (3580 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/15/2007 11:49:43 AM (3452 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 1:30:02 PM (3423 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/15/2007 2:55:24 PM (3432 views)

See you in San Diego! - Robert Franco/OH
1/11/2007 1:02:27 PM (3326 views)
Re: See you in San Diego! - Jay Duncan/MO
1/11/2007 1:17:01 PM (3236 views)
Re: See you in San Diego! - Patrick Scott/IL
1/11/2007 2:44:37 PM (3264 views)


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