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A response to Forbes Mag. on behalf of FLORIDA - Laura Macias/FL
11/2/2006 10:59:46 AM (2386 views)
Re: A response to Forbes Mag. on behalf of FLORIDA - Robert Franco/OH
11/2/2006 11:19:55 AM (2931 views)

Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Slade Smith/OH
11/1/2006 8:24:23 PM (3422 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - George Booth/OH
11/1/2006 10:59:32 PM (2943 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Angelica Schneider/IN
11/2/2006 12:34:05 AM (2936 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Slade Smith/OH
11/2/2006 3:11:05 AM (2989 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/2/2006 6:36:47 AM (3121 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Robert Franco/OH
11/2/2006 10:18:24 AM (3059 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Robert Franco/OH
11/2/2006 10:10:23 AM (3015 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - George Booth/OH
11/2/2006 11:58:08 AM (3013 views)

Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Pete Kisan/OH
11/1/2006 7:04:44 AM (2748 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/1/2006 7:27:24 AM (3062 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Pete Kisan/OH
11/1/2006 7:56:32 AM (4518 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Jay Duncan/MO
11/1/2006 8:56:15 AM (4565 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Robert Franco/OH
11/1/2006 10:32:08 AM (3088 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Danielle Nelson/WI
11/1/2006 5:53:45 PM (3076 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Patrick Scott/IL
11/1/2006 8:59:27 PM (3036 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Slade Smith/OH
11/1/2006 9:15:44 PM (3118 views)
ALTA's response to Forbes Mag - Jay Duncan/MO
11/2/2006 7:58:19 AM (4587 views)
Forbes Rocks - Jan Forster/NC
11/2/2006 8:31:49 AM (3196 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Robert Franco/OH
11/2/2006 10:00:02 AM (4435 views)

HAPPY HALLOWEEN - Angelica Schneider/IN
10/31/2006 12:40:16 PM (2000 views)

Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Ted Lannon/MA
10/31/2006 11:52:33 AM (2923 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
10/31/2006 2:03:24 PM (2868 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Ted Lannon/MA
10/31/2006 4:28:14 PM (2998 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 12:46:30 PM (2816 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Ted Lannon/MA
11/1/2006 2:29:05 PM (2901 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 3:33:16 PM (2723 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Loretta Reed/MD
10/31/2006 10:23:26 PM (2771 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 10:54:44 AM (2742 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 11:14:19 AM (2653 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Robert Franco/OH
11/1/2006 11:29:42 AM (2671 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/1/2006 11:35:57 AM (2680 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Robert Franco/OH
11/1/2006 11:50:10 AM (2637 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 11:51:35 AM (2630 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/1/2006 12:31:01 PM (2688 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 12:57:20 PM (2675 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Robert Franco/OH
11/1/2006 2:06:39 PM (2723 views)

Thanks Wendi.  I do think I take the side of the abstractor, but what is done is done.  Nothing at this point is going to help the abstractor in this instance, except for Contemporary to work its way out its current problems.  I suppose that it would be better for the abstractors if Contemporary were able to get an equity line to payoff their previous obligations.  However, that is beyond the abstractors' control... maybe contemporary is not in a strong enough financial position to do so, in which case it is beyond anyone's control.

I think the problem goes far beyond this particular situation.  It is an industry-wide problem.  In any business, clients or customers for some reason wind up not being able to pay their obligations.  In most business, losses, whether from customers not paying their bills or shoplifting, are a part of doing business and the potential costs are built into their fees.

What makes our business so difficult is that we operate on a "work-now, pay-later" system that has slowly gone from the standard NET30, to NET45, to NET60, and, the fees have been slowly decreasing, rather than keeping up with our rising expenses.  Just today I received a notice that our health insurance premiums are going up again this year, by another 12% to 14%.  Unfortunately, I cannot raise my prices.

This means that our profit margin does not allow us the flexibility to absorb losses of this magnitude.  In fact, we are often not in a position to wait longer than expected for payment.  I find this very disturbing.  Certainly, I do not think it is fair that the abstractors are forced to suffer these consequences, you are quite correct in your statement "Why are the abstractors the ones who suffer when we are the ones LEAST likely to be able to stay afloat."  However, I think this is a symptom of a greater problem than Contemporary's current situation. 

There are a lot of forces at work in this scenario... and unfortunately, we as abstractors have caused a lot of them.  I am not referring to anyone in particular, but the whole group of us.  We work in an industry where abstractors are completely unregulated.  There are no barriers to entering the abstracting business.  This has created a lot of competition.  In a down market it gets even worse because when abstractors get laid off from title companies, they go independent.  And everyone, in order to get new business (or keep existing business) is willing to accept lower fees.  This in turn puts more pressure on the rest of us to lower our fees. 

Now, we find that what may have been an "acceptable" fee when there was more work than we could handle, is not enough to pay our bills when things are slow.  Because fixed costs don't go down when the volume of work drops off, it gets tougher to make ends meet in these situation.  Unfortunately, that also means that when one client unexpectedly isn't paying their invoice the effect is felt even more so.

If our fees would have increased by the same percentage as our expenses over the past 5 years, I don't think that this particular problem would have had nearly such a dramatic effect on anyone.  Please don't misunderstand me, I still think this is a tragedy.  My heart really goes out to Loretta; I can certainly empathize. 

My only point here is that whatever the situation with Contemporary, or any other client  in the past that has not paid their abstractors in a timely fashion, that is a part of doing business (as lousy as that may be).  It is just sad that in our profession it has such a devastating effect.

(Sorry for the long post.)

Best,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Ted Lannon/MA
11/1/2006 12:30:50 PM (2680 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Loretta Reed/MD
11/1/2006 3:36:11 PM (2646 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Kurt deVries/FL
11/1/2006 3:49:17 PM (2639 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 3:55:33 PM (2833 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 3:58:59 PM (3031 views)
Enough already... - Jay Duncan/MO
11/1/2006 4:43:43 PM (2826 views)
Re: Enough already... - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 5:31:02 PM (2738 views)
Re: Enough already... - Jay Duncan/MO
11/1/2006 6:01:12 PM (2728 views)
Re: Enough already... - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 6:24:23 PM (2558 views)
Re: Enough already... - Loretta Reed/MD
11/1/2006 6:08:12 PM (2842 views)
Re: Enough already... - Jay Duncan/MO
11/1/2006 6:17:50 PM (2591 views)
Re: Enough already... - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 6:52:25 PM (2618 views)
Re: Enough already... - Angelica Schneider/IN
11/1/2006 6:56:52 PM (2734 views)
Re: Enough already... - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 7:13:30 PM (2580 views)
Re: Enough already... - Jan Forster/NC
11/1/2006 8:16:40 PM (2550 views)
Re Jim's: Unbelievalbe Ted - Ted Lannon/MA
11/1/2006 9:05:16 PM (2706 views)
Re: Re Jim's: Unbelievalbe Ted - Angelica Schneider/IN
11/2/2006 12:28:35 AM (2611 views)
Re: Re Jim's: Unbelievalbe Ted - Jim Girardi/NY
11/3/2006 10:33:02 AM (2747 views)
Re: Re Jim's: Unbelievalbe Ted - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/3/2006 10:53:44 AM (2670 views)
Re: Re Jim's: Unbelievalbe Ted - george Hubka/MI
11/6/2006 7:37:03 PM (2670 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - george Hubka/MI
11/6/2006 6:58:25 PM (2631 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jay K/MD
11/2/2006 8:30:47 AM (2621 views)


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Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Rich M/ME
10/30/2006 9:05:07 PM (2736 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Ted Lannon/MA
10/30/2006 9:57:03 PM (3289 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/31/2006 7:39:40 AM (3265 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Ted Lannon/MA
10/31/2006 8:35:20 AM (3044 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/31/2006 9:01:05 AM (3023 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Ted Lannon/MA
10/31/2006 9:27:33 AM (2978 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/31/2006 9:38:13 AM (3086 views)

U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
10/30/2006 11:40:02 AM (2950 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Tamara Henderson/GA
10/31/2006 3:45:37 AM (3292 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Wendi See/SC
10/31/2006 11:23:35 AM (3285 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/1/2006 6:50:40 PM (3072 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 6:56:37 PM (3119 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/2/2006 4:59:05 PM (2895 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/1/2006 6:51:31 PM (2915 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - george Hubka/MI
11/6/2006 7:21:03 PM (2849 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/7/2006 5:41:38 PM (2841 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/1/2006 6:49:08 PM (3025 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Scott Perry/PA
11/2/2006 10:44:14 PM (2928 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Tamara Henderson/GA
11/4/2006 9:03:52 AM (3042 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Wendi See/SC
11/4/2006 10:23:11 AM (2920 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
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Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
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Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Vikki Moffitt/GA
11/7/2006 7:28:24 AM (2906 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/7/2006 5:39:14 PM (2851 views)

Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Ted Lannon/MA
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Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Ted Lannon/MA
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Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Ted Lannon/MA
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Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Ted Lannon/MA
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Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Wendi See/SC
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Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Wendi See/SC
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Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - David Bloys/TX
10/31/2006 10:48:42 AM (3024 views)

Sorry...not really - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Sorry...not really - Angelica Schneider/IN
10/29/2006 9:21:19 PM (2952 views)
Re: Sorry...not really - Kurt deVries/FL
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Housing Prices Decline - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Housing Prices Decline or Off the Market - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
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ATTN: Firefox users - slade smith/OH
10/26/2006 9:41:52 AM (2380 views)
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Elections Website Exposed Over 1 Million Voters to Identity Theft and Voter Fraud - David Bloys/TX
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10 Tips on Hiring Your Clients - Jan Forster/NC
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Title Camp - Sara Leamon/NC
10/22/2006 8:33:25 PM (2730 views)
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Re: Title Camp - Patrick Scott/IL
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Re: Title Camp - Jan Forster/NC
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Re: Title Camp - Barry Campbell/NY
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Re: Title Camp - Wendi See/SC
10/30/2006 11:31:01 AM (3032 views)
Re: Title Camp - Barry Campbell/NY
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Re: Title Camp - Jan Forster/NC
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Re: Title Camp - Wendi See/SC
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Re: Title Camp - Scott Perry/PA
11/1/2006 7:28:08 PM (2801 views)

Title Camp - Wendi See/SC
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