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DocEdge.com - DF/NV
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MY FIRST NON PAYMENT COMPANY - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
9/21/2006 9:29:21 PM (2974 views)
Re: MY FIRST NON PAYMENT COMPANY - DF/NV
9/23/2006 5:53:11 PM (3869 views)

Another Non Payer - Heather Arndt/MN
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Re: Another Non Payer - Dorothy Payne/NY
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Re: Another Non Payer - HOPE DEZERN/SC
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Copy Fees - Kim Cowles/WI
9/21/2006 8:11:33 AM (2906 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Copy Fees - Kim Cowles/WI
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Re: Copy Fees - Kurt deVries/FL
9/22/2006 11:50:06 AM (3784 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Wendi See/SC
9/21/2006 11:50:35 AM (3925 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Rachel Malone/PA
9/22/2006 8:03:49 AM (3798 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Tammy Knight/MO
9/22/2006 9:13:29 AM (3968 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Kurt deVries/FL
9/22/2006 11:52:53 AM (3687 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Dee/PA
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Re: Copy Fees - Rachel Malone/PA
9/22/2006 7:30:54 PM (3805 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Ben Kohnen/WI
9/21/2006 11:59:39 AM (3786 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Vikki Moffitt/GA
9/21/2006 12:42:04 PM (3805 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Copy Fees - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Copy Fees - Michaela Urban/OH
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Re: Copy Fees - Saundra  Scott/MD
9/26/2006 1:02:20 PM (3741 views)

Meddler - Tammy Knight/MO
9/20/2006 11:47:24 PM (2964 views)
Re: Meddler - Kurt deVries/FL
9/21/2006 9:51:59 AM (3794 views)
Re: Meddler - Vikki Moffitt/GA
9/21/2006 12:50:30 PM (3744 views)
Re: Meddler - Wanda Steudel/OH
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Re: Meddler - Tammy Knight/MO
9/21/2006 10:50:23 PM (3685 views)
Re: Meddler - Wanda Steudel/OH
9/22/2006 10:55:31 AM (3808 views)
Re: Meddler - Tammy Knight/MO
9/22/2006 6:07:20 PM (3679 views)
Re: Meddler - Sandra Morton/KS
9/25/2006 9:00:30 AM (3598 views)
Re: Meddler - Sandra Morton/KS
9/25/2006 8:55:16 AM (3677 views)
Re: Meddler - David Keeling/TX
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What about.... - mason haas/NY
9/19/2006 7:27:30 PM (2873 views)
Re: What about.... - Robert Franco/OH
9/19/2006 8:11:04 PM (3949 views)
Re: What about.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/20/2006 7:19:51 AM (3688 views)
Re: What about.... - Ricky Farrow/FL
9/21/2006 8:42:46 PM (3735 views)
Re: What about.... - John Povejsil/MN
9/22/2006 10:41:05 AM (3735 views)
Re: What about.... - Ricky Farrow/FL
9/22/2006 10:46:42 PM (5281 views)
Re: What about.... - mason haas/NY
9/27/2006 8:02:45 AM (3731 views)
Re: What about.... - Ricky Farrow/FL
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Re: What about.... - mason haas/NY
9/28/2006 8:01:20 AM (3707 views)
Re: What about.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/28/2006 10:14:20 AM (3582 views)

The Bertrum Group - Annette Dorty/PA
9/19/2006 6:46:56 PM (2138 views)

Land Title U.S.A Agency, Inc. - Annette Dorty/PA
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The Real Threat to Title Examiners - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
9/19/2006 3:41:17 PM (3020 views)
Re: The Real Threat to Title Examiners - David Jenkins/PA
9/19/2006 4:08:22 PM (4158 views)
Re: The Real Threat to Title Examiners - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: The Real Threat to Title Examiners - David Jenkins/PA
9/19/2006 5:14:45 PM (3901 views)
Re: The Real Threat to Title Examiners - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2006 7:19:17 PM (4058 views)
Re: The Real Threat to Title Examiners - Heather Arndt/MN
9/21/2006 3:41:59 PM (3915 views)
Re: The Real Threat to Title Examiners - Ricky Farrow/FL
9/21/2006 8:45:24 PM (3838 views)
Re: The Real Threat to Title Examiners - Saundra  Scott/MD
9/26/2006 1:10:49 PM (4115 views)

TRANSUNION - Paul Hughes/RI
9/19/2006 3:07:40 PM (2866 views)
Re: TRANSUNION - Robert Franco/OH
9/19/2006 3:28:50 PM (3941 views)
Re: TRANSUNION - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/20/2006 7:08:59 AM (3929 views)
Re: TRANSUNION - Robert Franco/OH
9/20/2006 12:28:07 PM (3816 views)
Re: TRANSUNION - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/20/2006 3:01:05 PM (3921 views)
Re: TRANSUNION - Robert Franco/OH
9/20/2006 3:34:19 PM (3847 views)
Re: TRANSUNION - Norean /GA
9/19/2006 4:52:19 PM (3836 views)
Re: TRANSUNION - Julie Jasiunas/WI
9/19/2006 6:47:21 PM (3858 views)
Re: TRANSUNION - Florida Flame/FL
9/22/2006 10:18:58 AM (3928 views)
Re: TRANSUNION - Ricky Farrow/FL
10/1/2006 7:39:42 PM (4108 views)

Clear Title - Another non payer!! - Kurt deVries/FL
9/19/2006 2:32:57 PM (2945 views)
Re: Clear Title - Another non payer!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/20/2006 7:03:50 AM (3938 views)
Re: Clear Title - Another non payer!! - Kurt deVries/FL
9/20/2006 11:37:11 AM (3779 views)
Re: Clear Title - Another non payer!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Clear Title - Another non payer!! - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Clear Title - Another non payer!! - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Clear Title - Another non payer!! - Sandra Morton/KS
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Re: Clear Title - Another non payer!! - Heather Arndt/MN
9/25/2006 4:21:27 PM (3921 views)

Contract Question - L ROLAND/CA
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Re: Contract Question - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Contract Question - George Booth/TX
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Re: Contract Question - L ROLAND/CA
9/18/2006 11:51:20 AM (3895 views)

American Security Title? - Kurt deVries/FL
9/15/2006 11:34:08 AM (2834 views)
Re: American Security Title? - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
9/15/2006 2:24:22 PM (3948 views)
Re: American Security Title? - Jay Duncan/MO
9/15/2006 2:33:46 PM (3809 views)

TIme for a chuckle - an uninformed client? - Robb Grandon/OH
9/15/2006 9:56:31 AM (2971 views)
Re: TIme for a chuckle - an uninformed client? - Jay Duncan/MO
9/15/2006 10:45:06 AM (4127 views)
Re: TIme for a chuckle - an uninformed client? - George Booth/TX
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Re: TIme for a chuckle - an uninformed client? - Angelica Schneider/IN
9/15/2006 3:23:22 PM (3900 views)
Re: TIme for a chuckle - an uninformed client? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
9/18/2006 9:26:26 AM (3991 views)
Re: TIme for a chuckle - an uninformed client? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2006 3:36:12 PM (3884 views)
Re: TIme for a chuckle - an uninformed client? - Antonio KRUEGER/FL
9/22/2006 9:43:29 PM (3823 views)

Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Michael /KS
9/14/2006 12:06:50 AM (3119 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/14/2006 8:03:44 AM (4245 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Jan Forster/NC
9/14/2006 9:59:00 AM (4264 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/14/2006 11:36:54 AM (4140 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Jan Forster/NC
9/14/2006 11:55:01 AM (4055 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/14/2006 12:09:29 PM (4082 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Saundra  Scott/MD
9/18/2006 10:24:05 AM (4335 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Robert Franco/OH
9/14/2006 10:47:04 AM (4018 views)

That is terrible.  If Kansas is anything like Ohio, the licensing test is not an "abstracting" test, but a general title insurance test.  It requires knowledge of principals of abstracting, escrow, and insurance.  I would not be surprised if most "searchers" would fail such a test. 

In Ohio, in order to take the test, you have to be sponsored by an underwriter and that is the toughest part.  The underwriters are not looking to take risks and they want to be sure that their agents are knowledgeable if they are going to be writing policies and incuring liability on behalf of the underwriter.  Of course, the toughest problem the searchers have is that they don't write premium, so there is nothing in it for the underwriter.  The underwriters have expenses to keep their agents licensed as well.  They have fees that must be paid and they also provide the continuing education that is required.

It seems to me that Kansas is going to go back to the way things worked 15 years ago - when there were no independents.  All of the searchers will have to employed by the agents, in order to get licensed under a policy issuing representative of an underwriter.

I wonder what this will do to all of those companies in Coraopolis, PA, and elsewhere, that service the whole country.  It seems like such a bill would prohibit them from working in Kansas, which will create more work for the local title companies.  I just don't know how such a bill would be enforced against out-of-state companies unless the aim is just to put all of the independents out of business so they have nobody to do their work.

Let's hear from some others in Kansas and see how they are dealing with this new legislation. I'd also like to know where ALTA was??  Why did they not lobby to protect their members who were adversely affected?  This is exactly why we need an organization like NALTEA... nobody else is looking out for the abstractors. 

This is what I have been clamoring about for the past three years... NALTEA needs more members to effectively address these kinds of issues.  Others may just be seeing this as an issue in Kansas that does not affect them, but what happens when they try the same thing in other states??  If we all band together, we would have a voice that would be larger than any of us individually. 

I also wonder how this law effects attorneys.  Are they exempted from the law?  Providing an opinion of title, or conducting a title search, has other uses besides title insurance and, normally, it is considered the practice of law (whether or not that is enforced is a different issue).  Do attorneys need to be licensed and have an underwriter to do a title search for a client?  Seems ridiculous to require such a thing.  Maybe you should contact the bar association and see if they have an opinion on this.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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9/14/2006 1:21:24 PM (4138 views)
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Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Deborah Manion/VA
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Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - John Povejsil/MN
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Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - David Bloys/TX
9/15/2006 9:03:57 AM (4059 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Sandra Morton/KS
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Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - John Povejsil/MN
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Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Wanda Steudel/OH
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Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Jay Duncan/MO
9/18/2006 6:21:17 PM (3974 views)
More Kansas Abstractor License Info - Jay Duncan/MO
9/18/2006 1:41:22 PM (6886 views)


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