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Orchestrate.com and others - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Orchestrate.com and others - William Duncan/SC
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Re: Orchestrate.com and others - William Duncan/SC
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Re: Orchestrate.com and others - Smitty Strickland/SC
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Sanrit - Kurt deVries/FL
4/9/2021 10:27:59 AM (2729 views)
Re: Sanrit - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Sanrit - Kurt deVries/FL
4/9/2021 1:22:00 PM (4090 views)
Re: Sanrit - Jay Duncan/MO
4/9/2021 1:41:51 PM (3842 views)
Re: Sanrit - William Duncan/SC
4/9/2021 3:00:59 PM (4243 views)
Re: Sanrit - Smitty Strickland/SC
4/9/2021 6:57:03 PM (4322 views)
Re: Sanrit - Ron Beavers/FL
4/12/2021 10:07:47 AM (3890 views)

avanzegroup.com? - Paige Bentley/TX
4/8/2021 5:18:08 PM (3220 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Jay Duncan/MO
4/9/2021 9:11:12 AM (4492 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Kurt deVries/FL
4/9/2021 10:24:17 AM (4296 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? TYSM for the reply!! (Can't post in message, IDK why) - Paige Bentley/TX
4/9/2021 9:14:23 PM (4267 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
4/12/2021 11:03:42 AM (4469 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Rene Blevins/VA
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
4/12/2021 11:50:21 AM (4229 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - george Hubka/MI
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Serena Stout/VA
4/27/2021 6:21:45 PM (4249 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
5/3/2021 3:01:24 PM (4064 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - george Hubka/MI
4/26/2022 8:56:06 PM (2907 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Ted Williamson/TX
10/12/2021 2:02:23 PM (3411 views)

Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
4/8/2021 3:22:26 PM (3377 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Brandon ONeal/TN
4/8/2021 3:49:17 PM (4430 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Ron Beavers/FL
4/12/2021 10:29:02 AM (4345 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
4/12/2021 11:01:20 AM (4134 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - george Hubka/MI
4/12/2021 9:55:48 PM (4285 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Tempie Elder/GA
4/28/2021 10:33:43 AM (4160 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
4/28/2021 10:44:25 AM (3829 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Alix Ott/MI
5/3/2021 10:33:53 AM (3890 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Angela Sharp/CA
5/7/2021 6:46:17 AM (4037 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Serena Stout/VA
5/10/2021 9:01:34 AM (4149 views)

Thank you from ABN Legal Solutions - William Duncan/SC
4/4/2021 1:42:00 PM (3952 views)




PRO Act Bill - Jennifer Lawrence/AR
3/31/2021 7:37:46 PM (2451 views)

Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
3/31/2021 2:17:49 PM (3238 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - William Duncan/SC
4/1/2021 10:25:47 AM (4556 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Patrick Parrish/AL
4/1/2021 5:20:24 PM (4215 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
4/2/2021 8:22:04 AM (4341 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - george Hubka/MI
4/12/2021 9:59:21 PM (4007 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
4/20/2021 2:20:38 PM (4195 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - george Hubka/MI
4/20/2021 3:13:08 PM (4088 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Rita Killary/NY
8/27/2021 6:22:23 PM (3698 views)

So, think I should risk it? - Alix Ott/MI
3/31/2021 2:12:10 PM (2998 views)
Re: So, think I should risk it? - Brandon ONeal/TN
3/31/2021 11:11:51 PM (4072 views)

Remote Online Notary Vendors - Jeanine Johnson/MN
3/31/2021 11:24:43 AM (2884 views)
Re: Remote Online Notary Vendors - Becky Schweitzer/OH
4/5/2021 9:48:14 AM (3754 views)
Re: Remote Online Notary Vendors - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Remote Online Notary info - Jeanine Johnson/MN
4/5/2021 1:27:06 PM (4153 views)

Abstract Software - Tony Costa/LA
3/29/2021 9:45:32 AM (2357 views)

SiteSolutionsService: ...really!?... - William Duncan/SC
3/26/2021 10:46:12 AM (2221 views)

There: FIXED! - William Duncan/SC
3/25/2021 9:33:06 AM (2220 views)

Abstractor Pro software - Kurt deVries/FL
3/23/2021 2:55:25 PM (3676 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Smitty Strickland/SC
3/23/2021 3:23:07 PM (4452 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Robb Grandon/MI
3/26/2021 6:24:14 PM (4929 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Kurt deVries/FL
3/29/2021 12:04:14 PM (4049 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
2/11/2022 11:55:06 AM (3100 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Todd Camp/NJ
4/1/2021 3:08:30 PM (4259 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Andrew Trenary, Sr/OH
5/24/2021 11:00:10 AM (4017 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
6/4/2021 6:04:26 PM (4909 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Andrew Trenary, Sr/OH
6/20/2021 8:00:31 PM (4105 views)

...Really...? - William Duncan/SC
3/22/2021 4:01:06 PM (2866 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Smitty Strickland/SC
3/22/2021 4:11:44 PM (3907 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Robert Franco/OH
3/23/2021 9:11:22 AM (3779 views)
Re: ...Really...? - William Duncan/SC
3/23/2021 9:32:31 AM (3815 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Smitty Strickland/SC
3/23/2021 3:27:39 PM (3796 views)
Re: ...Really...? - george Hubka/MI
3/23/2021 4:31:50 PM (4047 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Judy Maclauchlan/LA
3/25/2021 10:22:25 AM (3680 views)

"Title theft" myth persists - Alix Ott/MI
3/17/2021 6:53:36 AM (3006 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Becky Schweitzer/OH
3/22/2021 9:58:58 AM (4639 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Kurt deVries/FL
3/22/2021 1:32:56 PM (3984 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/22/2021 2:19:13 PM (4141 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - george Hubka/MI
3/23/2021 4:40:23 PM (4018 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/23/2021 6:14:28 PM (3793 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - george Hubka/MI
3/23/2021 10:35:59 PM (3895 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/24/2021 12:26:20 PM (3805 views)
Again, if the general public starts searching their own properties, then there's no need for abstractors/searchers within the industry is what you are basically telling me.  

And, as an examiner, it's bad enough that there are "professional" searchers who miss deeds, easements, etc as is.  Heaven help us if the average Joe starts questioning professional services because they think they can DIY a 60 year property search.

Your job at stake, not mine   LOL  

The reality is that the "title theft" angle has to be an elaborate scheme set up by multiple parties in order to "steal" a deed.

And, as I mentioned before, if a homeowner received documentation stating they were being foreclosed on, why would they ignore it?

I was a witness to a case where a property was "sold" 4 times.  The first sale was legit to a point, with the Sellers being the actual sellers and took place in an attorney's office with me as the title witness closer only doing pick ups and marking up the binder.

The 3 subsequent "sales" were done within 5 days of the original closing.  Same "buyer" as the first closing.  Had a NJ DL for ID.  The subsequent "sellers" were ringers who looked very much like the real sellers, physically.

Apparently, a car dealership had been hacked and ID theft of all their clients.  Think about it, a dealership has the same info on a buyer, esp if they financed the car.  So name, ID, address, SS etc

The subsquent sales were conducted by attorneys.  The all accepted a "payoff" statement from the existing lender being paid off bc funds from the first transaction was wired to the bank.  However, that bank did not provide a ZERO BALANCE letter.  They accepted the old payoff statement only and did not question anything raised a red flag:

1. Why is the Seller paying off a mortgage that had been 6 months in arrears, just 2 days before closing?

2. Where did the Seller obtain funds, since they had not made a house payment in 6 months?

3. Where was proof and source of funds?

The list goes on and on.  The person whose Identity was stolen knew nothing about these transactions.  They were not against his property.  The theft ring used only his name and credit, but not his address.

So, he received notices that he was in foreclosure from 4 different banks on a property he had never owned.

Now, flip this entire idea back to a person who owns a property.  If you started receiving notices that your loan is behind, you would not question that if  A. You don't have a mortgage?  B. You have a mortgage but your payments are on time.

The premise of the "Title Theft" insurance is to make sure your deed is secure?  It's pretty unlikely that someone is going to just waltz in and make a copy of your deed to gain access to your info.  Your deed is signed by who you bought it from.  Your deed does not have your signature on it.

So, that means the thief would need to have a document with your signature on it.   Well, a mortgage would have the signature, sure.  But what if you don't have a mortgage?

Then you have to take the whole thing through the closing process.  So, the notary would have to be in on it, b/c they have to ID you, a bank/loan office would have to be in on it, since they take all your financials, the title agency would have to be in on it, b/c yes, we DO look at signatures to make sure they match documents, whoever is conducting the closing would have to be in on it, b/c they have to verify your source of funds, etc.

So in essence, it's not really that easy to create a bogus deed, obtain a new mortgage and close on it.  The standard risk protocols would question how the "new deed holder" came into title.

Title insurance manages the risk. 


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Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/24/2021 12:26:22 PM (4171 views)


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