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please read..... - Ellen Malloy/MO
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Re: please read..... - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: please read..... - Jan Forster/NC
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Re: please read..... - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/13/2006 7:55:46 AM (4585 views)
Questions about the plan - Jay Duncan/MO
5/13/2006 5:21:19 PM (4738 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Scott Perry/PA
5/13/2006 10:47:53 PM (4637 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Jay Duncan/MO
5/14/2006 12:04:22 AM (4629 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Vikki Moffitt/GA
5/14/2006 6:37:05 PM (4515 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Scott Perry/PA
5/14/2006 10:37:59 PM (4619 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Jay Duncan/MO
5/14/2006 11:29:06 PM (4519 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/15/2006 11:59:09 AM (4561 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/15/2006 1:14:44 PM (4510 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Jay Duncan/MO
5/15/2006 10:24:49 PM (4605 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2006 8:47:11 AM (4471 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/16/2006 9:36:52 AM (4484 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/16/2006 9:55:34 AM (4479 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2006 10:07:51 AM (4504 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/16/2006 9:53:06 AM (4482 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2006 10:16:53 AM (4415 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/16/2006 1:36:14 PM (4568 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2006 2:38:03 PM (4457 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2006 2:38:07 PM (4395 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/16/2006 3:09:02 PM (4342 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/16/2006 5:08:03 PM (4448 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/17/2006 6:40:02 AM (4485 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/17/2006 9:29:23 AM (4357 views)
Re: please read..... - Pete Kisan/OH
5/15/2006 8:15:15 AM (4563 views)
Re: please read..... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
5/16/2006 8:03:48 PM (5930 views)
Re: please read..... - David Bloys/TX
5/16/2006 9:16:09 PM (4489 views)
Re: please read..... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
5/16/2006 10:48:57 PM (4395 views)
Re: please read..... - Lynn Hammett/SC
5/16/2006 9:41:54 PM (5881 views)
Re: please read..... - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/17/2006 7:06:30 AM (4528 views)
Re: please read..... - Robert Franco/OH
5/17/2006 9:48:19 AM (5861 views)
Re: please read..... - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/17/2006 9:54:34 AM (4316 views)
Re: please read..... - Robert Franco/OH
5/17/2006 9:26:16 AM (4437 views)
Re: please read..... - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/17/2006 9:58:48 AM (4285 views)
Re: please read..... - Robert Franco/OH
5/17/2006 10:07:45 AM (4267 views)
Re: please read..... - John OConnor/IL
5/17/2006 10:33:41 AM (4376 views)
Re: please read..... - Robert Franco/OH
5/17/2006 11:36:50 AM (4326 views)
Re: please read..... - Lynn Hammett/SC
5/17/2006 4:40:38 PM (4322 views)
Re: please read..... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/18/2006 12:29:26 PM (4297 views)
Re: please read..... - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/18/2006 1:07:45 PM (4369 views)
Re: please read..... - Lori Cassidy/CT
5/22/2006 10:19:07 AM (4336 views)
Re: please read..... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/22/2006 10:32:14 AM (4304 views)
Re: please read..... - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/22/2006 3:17:34 PM (4322 views)
Re: please read..... - Scott Perry/PA
5/23/2006 12:52:46 AM (4310 views)

Beating the title insurers at their own game - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/12/2006 4:29:19 PM (3262 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
5/12/2006 5:11:47 PM (4767 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - David Bloys/TX
5/12/2006 10:47:50 PM (4812 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/13/2006 8:18:22 AM (4764 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - Scott Perry/PA
5/13/2006 10:28:08 AM (4868 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/13/2006 10:47:24 AM (4812 views)

Greenlink and Wachovia - Wendi See/SC
5/12/2006 1:36:00 PM (3561 views)
Re: Greenlink and Wachovia - HOPE DEZERN/SC
5/22/2006 1:05:32 PM (4640 views)
Re: Greenlink and Wachovia - Wendi See/SC
5/23/2006 12:48:37 PM (4581 views)

Where is CMS??? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/11/2006 11:39:32 AM (3395 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Jay Duncan/MO
5/11/2006 11:51:07 AM (4827 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/11/2006 11:55:32 AM (4823 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/11/2006 3:28:26 PM (4877 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Robert Franco/OH
5/12/2006 11:27:50 AM (4730 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/12/2006 2:55:31 PM (4650 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/13/2006 1:06:03 PM (4741 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Scott Tregurtha/NJ
5/22/2006 12:25:33 PM (4613 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Frances Scheetz/PA
5/17/2006 6:27:46 PM (4787 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Ricky Farrow/FL
5/25/2006 10:37:40 PM (4661 views)

Another Off-Topic Post... - Scott Perry/PA
5/11/2006 8:10:35 AM (4289 views)
Re: Another Off-Topic Post... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/11/2006 8:22:23 AM (4715 views)
Re: Another Off-Topic Post... - Scott Perry/PA
5/11/2006 4:20:52 PM (4537 views)




30...40...50 year??? - Jay Duncan/MO
5/10/2006 5:40:47 PM (3153 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Vikki Moffitt/GA
5/10/2006 7:56:56 PM (4881 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/10/2006 8:27:34 PM (4861 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Scott Perry/PA
5/10/2006 8:52:41 PM (4633 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - George Booth/OH
5/10/2006 10:05:19 PM (4921 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Jay Duncan/MO
5/11/2006 8:39:08 AM (4677 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Breakell/CT
5/11/2006 8:21:29 PM (4704 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Franco/OH
5/12/2006 3:29:34 PM (4474 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Breakell/CT
5/12/2006 7:07:03 PM (4806 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Franco/OH
5/13/2006 5:17:39 PM (4397 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Breakell/CT
5/16/2006 6:45:49 PM (4291 views)

Error and Omissions Insurance - Christine Sheeler/PA
5/10/2006 9:01:31 AM (3155 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - Jay Duncan/MO
5/10/2006 9:58:02 AM (5080 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - J Nisonger/CA
5/10/2006 11:21:21 AM (4766 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - Angelica Schneider/IN
5/10/2006 1:50:10 PM (4642 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
5/10/2006 4:39:36 PM (4650 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - Christine Sheeler/PA
5/12/2006 8:47:22 AM (4540 views)

The Outsourcing Continues... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
5/9/2006 10:50:15 AM (2701 views)

Industry Veteran Passes Away - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
5/8/2006 1:21:24 PM (2564 views)

NALTEA question - Wendi See/SC
5/8/2006 11:30:21 AM (3140 views)
Re: NALTEA question - George Booth/OH
5/8/2006 11:42:02 AM (4640 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/8/2006 2:36:24 PM (4760 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/8/2006 3:24:09 PM (4502 views)
Re: NALTEA question - George Booth/OH
5/8/2006 3:58:58 PM (4544 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/8/2006 5:48:38 PM (4668 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Jay Duncan/MO
5/8/2006 6:05:53 PM (4451 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/8/2006 6:42:07 PM (4549 views)
Re: NALTEA question - David Bloys/TX
5/9/2006 1:23:27 AM (6561 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/9/2006 7:21:04 AM (4975 views)
Re: NALTEA question - David Bloys/TX
5/9/2006 8:46:55 AM (4912 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Jay Duncan/MO
5/9/2006 10:06:36 AM (4975 views)
Re: NALTEA question..long post - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/10/2006 8:56:40 AM (5092 views)

Jay:

I am no longer abstracting, but if I can help Naltea in an advisory capacity, please let me know. I will be happy to act as an advisor.

As a follow up to the above posting, I wanted to shed a little light:

Naltea Membership/Union:
    1.   I think that the problem Naltea may be facing with respect to membership is a general apathy accross the board with the abstractors. I think many of them have limited budgets, and are concerned with what they get in return for their annual membership fee. I think you have to take into account that they have limited budgets, and need to see a return on the investment. 

          When Naltea was formed the incentive was to obtain lower group health insurance rates and e&o rates. These are great ideas, and should be followed up, but possibly in a different method. My knowledge of Naltea is limited to posting on SOT, but as I understand it the insurance companies tied any reduction in premiums to effectuation of a training/certification program. As I understand it there was some problem with the program...not certain exactly what. The certification was a difficult task to include all the laws of the various states. I also think that it was too restrictive for experienced abstractors. Even the state bar associations offer alternatives to bar exam to attorneys with more than five years experience. The objective of obtaining the reduced e&o insurance premiums is a great idea, but I think the means of obtaining it need to be re-evaluated to accomplish it.

            In so far as a union is concerned, it is a concept that most abstractors understand in lieu of membership in a trade organization.
There are two ways to accomplish it. 

                    a.  Either contact an existing union of your choice and have them send union organizers. The draw back of this approach is that you have to answer to a national, and if some other group that they represent goes out on strike, the abstractors may be asked to do the same in sympathy. You also give up a lot of independence. 

                    b.  The preferable route is to form your own union exclusively for abstractors. You would have to contact a labor attorney to set you. (This is not an area in which I practice). You can organize and structure the by laws to the express needs and desires of the membership, and the abstractors remain in full control of their objectives. 

              What can a union offer the abstractor that Naltea is not... group reductions on auto insurance, life insurace and health insurance  and a retirement plan (similar to teachers unions). You could also make membership in Naltea an added benefit of membership in your union.

               What are the benefits of the union...more effective representation in the market among the title companies and vendor managers. ..better control of price negotiation for an abstractor's services without the counter threat of price fixing. In so far as the fears of abstractors having to pay union wages to their employees is concerned, these expenses can be included in the increased price of the client's doing business with the union members. Will the clients have the option of dealing with non union abstractors? Certainly, but hopefully you can attract enough union members to make the prospect unattractive, and you are still free to educate the client's client to whom he answers by the weak link theory explained below.

    2.     The weak link:

                 As explained above to find the weak link in the food chain it is necessary to travel up the chain to the party that ultimately controls the funding, and for whom everyone lower in the chain works.  The weak link needs to be educated to how his interests are being handeled, and whether there is a better method.

                 This approach is used in other industries. I personally saw it work when I worked for CBS. One of the major Ad Agencies in New York was buying 400 rating points per weak of television advertising in the Chicago market. That is a huge amount of money when spread across an advertising campaign of several weeks duration. The media buyer cut CBS out of the deal for whatever reason we do not know. We put together a sweet deal and approached the client directly to educate the client as to what was available, but which was not considered by the media buyer. It worked. There was a re-buy of the market in which CBS got its fair share of the deal. The first time this happens the buyer is called up on the carpet to explain himself. If it happens a second time, the buyer is fired. If it happens a third time the Ad Agency loses the account.

             I think the same approach could be used by the abstractors, if they are organized properly.

   3.      Promotion:

            I think the position of the abstractors could be improved if the title community and general public better understood the nature of the work performed and its importance. Institutional advertising could be used to accomplish this. You may need to hire an Ad Agency or PR firm to accomplish this, or possibly this is a function that Naltea could perform. I understand how to buy rating points in both television and radio, and will be happy to share the knowledge. I can also explain how the Neilsen ratings work. 

Anyway, Jay, just a few more thoughts on the subject.
 

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Re: NALTEA question..long post - Robert Franco/OH
5/10/2006 11:23:23 AM (4660 views)
Re: NALTEA question..long post - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: NALTEA question..long post - George Booth/OH
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Re: NALTEA question..long post - Scott Perry/PA
5/11/2006 7:59:03 AM (4567 views)
Re: NALTEA question..long post - Vikki Moffitt/GA
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Re: NALTEA question - George Booth/OH
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Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: NALTEA question - Jan Forster/NC
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Re: NALTEA question - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: NALTEA question - Jan Forster/NC
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Re: NALTEA question - Robert Breakell/CT
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Hey Jan, thanks and continue the research!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Hey Jan, thanks and continue the research!!! - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: NALTEA question - George Booth/OH
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Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
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What to do? - Michael Persyn/TX
5/8/2006 8:07:33 AM (3157 views)
Re: What to do? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - monica froese/ME
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - Patrick Scott/IL
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Re: What to do? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: What to do? - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: What to do? - Jeanne Johnson/FL
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Re: This is what we are doing in Suffolk County - Mason Haas/NY
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Re: What to do? - David Bloys/TX
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What if? - George Booth/OH
5/5/2006 7:23:04 AM (3062 views)
Re: What if? - Scott Perry/PA
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PA Governor Signs Eminent Domain Law - Scott Perry/PA
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One more question???? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: One more question???? - George Booth/OH
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Re: One more question???? - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: One more question???? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: One more question???? - Deborah Manion/VA
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Re: One more question???? - George Booth/OH
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Re: One more question????..I'm going to rant - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: One more question????..I'm going to rant - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: One more question????.. - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
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Re: One more question???? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: One more question???? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: One more question???? - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: One more question???? - Anne Gilbert/VT
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Re: One more question???? - Lori Cassidy/CT
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National Funding Services Inc - J Nisonger/CA
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