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Bucking the Out Sourcing Trend - Robert Breakell/CT
5/12/2006 7:24:55 PM (4821 views)
Re: Bucking the Out Sourcing Trend - J Nisonger/CA
5/23/2006 11:44:35 PM (5608 views)

please read..... - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/12/2006 4:56:05 PM (3711 views)
Re: please read..... - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/12/2006 5:06:02 PM (5404 views)
Re: please read..... - Robert Breakell/CT
5/12/2006 7:39:49 PM (5301 views)
Re: please read..... - Jan Forster/NC
5/13/2006 12:29:17 AM (5285 views)
Re: please read..... - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/13/2006 7:55:46 AM (5215 views)
Questions about the plan - Jay Duncan/MO
5/13/2006 5:21:19 PM (5335 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Scott Perry/PA
5/13/2006 10:47:53 PM (5243 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Jay Duncan/MO
5/14/2006 12:04:22 AM (5237 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Vikki Moffitt/GA
5/14/2006 6:37:05 PM (5115 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Scott Perry/PA
5/14/2006 10:37:59 PM (5227 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Jay Duncan/MO
5/14/2006 11:29:06 PM (5184 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/15/2006 11:59:09 AM (5181 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/15/2006 1:14:44 PM (5127 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Jay Duncan/MO
5/15/2006 10:24:49 PM (5236 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2006 8:47:11 AM (5073 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/16/2006 9:36:52 AM (5082 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/16/2006 9:55:34 AM (5014 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2006 10:07:51 AM (5058 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/16/2006 9:53:06 AM (5034 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2006 10:16:53 AM (5019 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/16/2006 1:36:14 PM (5130 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2006 2:38:03 PM (5045 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2006 2:38:07 PM (4953 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/16/2006 3:09:02 PM (4894 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/16/2006 5:08:03 PM (4986 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/17/2006 6:40:02 AM (5053 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/17/2006 9:29:23 AM (4939 views)
Re: please read..... - Pete Kisan/OH
5/15/2006 8:15:15 AM (5140 views)
Re: please read..... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
5/16/2006 8:03:48 PM (6525 views)
Re: please read..... - David Bloys/TX
5/16/2006 9:16:09 PM (5050 views)
Re: please read..... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
5/16/2006 10:48:57 PM (4977 views)
Re: please read..... - Lynn Hammett/SC
5/16/2006 9:41:54 PM (6467 views)
Re: please read..... - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/17/2006 7:06:30 AM (5080 views)
Re: please read..... - Robert Franco/OH
5/17/2006 9:48:19 AM (6475 views)
Re: please read..... - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/17/2006 9:54:34 AM (4885 views)
Re: please read..... - Robert Franco/OH
5/17/2006 9:26:16 AM (5055 views)
Re: please read..... - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/17/2006 9:58:48 AM (4839 views)
Re: please read..... - Robert Franco/OH
5/17/2006 10:07:45 AM (4873 views)
Re: please read..... - John OConnor/IL
5/17/2006 10:33:41 AM (4932 views)
Re: please read..... - Robert Franco/OH
5/17/2006 11:36:50 AM (4945 views)
Re: please read..... - Lynn Hammett/SC
5/17/2006 4:40:38 PM (4921 views)
Re: please read..... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/18/2006 12:29:26 PM (4864 views)
Re: please read..... - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/18/2006 1:07:45 PM (4973 views)
Re: please read..... - Lori Cassidy/CT
5/22/2006 10:19:07 AM (4968 views)
Re: please read..... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/22/2006 10:32:14 AM (4870 views)
Re: please read..... - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/22/2006 3:17:34 PM (4895 views)
Re: please read..... - Scott Perry/PA
5/23/2006 12:52:46 AM (4868 views)

Beating the title insurers at their own game - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/12/2006 4:29:19 PM (3401 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
5/12/2006 5:11:47 PM (5362 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - David Bloys/TX
5/12/2006 10:47:50 PM (5382 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/13/2006 8:18:22 AM (5353 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - Scott Perry/PA
5/13/2006 10:28:08 AM (5542 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/13/2006 10:47:24 AM (5397 views)

Greenlink and Wachovia - Wendi See/SC
5/12/2006 1:36:00 PM (3727 views)
Re: Greenlink and Wachovia - HOPE DEZERN/SC
5/22/2006 1:05:32 PM (5258 views)
Re: Greenlink and Wachovia - Wendi See/SC
5/23/2006 12:48:37 PM (5138 views)

Where is CMS??? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/11/2006 11:39:32 AM (3531 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Jay Duncan/MO
5/11/2006 11:51:07 AM (5381 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/11/2006 11:55:32 AM (5450 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/11/2006 3:28:26 PM (5569 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Robert Franco/OH
5/12/2006 11:27:50 AM (5291 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/12/2006 2:55:31 PM (5210 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/13/2006 1:06:03 PM (5246 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Scott Tregurtha/NJ
5/22/2006 12:25:33 PM (5202 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Frances Scheetz/PA
5/17/2006 6:27:46 PM (5316 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Ricky Farrow/FL
5/25/2006 10:37:40 PM (5199 views)




Another Off-Topic Post... - Scott Perry/PA
5/11/2006 8:10:35 AM (4413 views)
Re: Another Off-Topic Post... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/11/2006 8:22:23 AM (5426 views)
Re: Another Off-Topic Post... - Scott Perry/PA
5/11/2006 4:20:52 PM (5098 views)

30...40...50 year??? - Jay Duncan/MO
5/10/2006 5:40:47 PM (3256 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Vikki Moffitt/GA
5/10/2006 7:56:56 PM (5435 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/10/2006 8:27:34 PM (5410 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Scott Perry/PA
5/10/2006 8:52:41 PM (5239 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - George Booth/OH
5/10/2006 10:05:19 PM (5509 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Jay Duncan/MO
5/11/2006 8:39:08 AM (5226 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Breakell/CT
5/11/2006 8:21:29 PM (5281 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Franco/OH
5/12/2006 3:29:34 PM (5042 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Breakell/CT
5/12/2006 7:07:03 PM (5400 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Franco/OH
5/13/2006 5:17:39 PM (4975 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Breakell/CT
5/16/2006 6:45:49 PM (4851 views)

Error and Omissions Insurance - Christine Sheeler/PA
5/10/2006 9:01:31 AM (3279 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - Jay Duncan/MO
5/10/2006 9:58:02 AM (5694 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - J Nisonger/CA
5/10/2006 11:21:21 AM (5346 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - Angelica Schneider/IN
5/10/2006 1:50:10 PM (5214 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
5/10/2006 4:39:36 PM (5256 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - Christine Sheeler/PA
5/12/2006 8:47:22 AM (5134 views)

The Outsourcing Continues... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
5/9/2006 10:50:15 AM (2892 views)

Industry Veteran Passes Away - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
5/8/2006 1:21:24 PM (2671 views)

NALTEA question - Wendi See/SC
5/8/2006 11:30:21 AM (3255 views)
Re: NALTEA question - George Booth/OH
5/8/2006 11:42:02 AM (5178 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/8/2006 2:36:24 PM (5315 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/8/2006 3:24:09 PM (5047 views)
Re: NALTEA question - George Booth/OH
5/8/2006 3:58:58 PM (5074 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/8/2006 5:48:38 PM (5244 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Jay Duncan/MO
5/8/2006 6:05:53 PM (4980 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/8/2006 6:42:07 PM (5121 views)
Re: NALTEA question - David Bloys/TX
5/9/2006 1:23:27 AM (7162 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/9/2006 7:21:04 AM (5548 views)
Re: NALTEA question - David Bloys/TX
5/9/2006 8:46:55 AM (5484 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Jay Duncan/MO
5/9/2006 10:06:36 AM (5542 views)
Re: NALTEA question..long post - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/10/2006 8:56:40 AM (5702 views)

Jay:

I am no longer abstracting, but if I can help Naltea in an advisory capacity, please let me know. I will be happy to act as an advisor.

As a follow up to the above posting, I wanted to shed a little light:

Naltea Membership/Union:
    1.   I think that the problem Naltea may be facing with respect to membership is a general apathy accross the board with the abstractors. I think many of them have limited budgets, and are concerned with what they get in return for their annual membership fee. I think you have to take into account that they have limited budgets, and need to see a return on the investment. 

          When Naltea was formed the incentive was to obtain lower group health insurance rates and e&o rates. These are great ideas, and should be followed up, but possibly in a different method. My knowledge of Naltea is limited to posting on SOT, but as I understand it the insurance companies tied any reduction in premiums to effectuation of a training/certification program. As I understand it there was some problem with the program...not certain exactly what. The certification was a difficult task to include all the laws of the various states. I also think that it was too restrictive for experienced abstractors. Even the state bar associations offer alternatives to bar exam to attorneys with more than five years experience. The objective of obtaining the reduced e&o insurance premiums is a great idea, but I think the means of obtaining it need to be re-evaluated to accomplish it.

            In so far as a union is concerned, it is a concept that most abstractors understand in lieu of membership in a trade organization.
There are two ways to accomplish it. 

                    a.  Either contact an existing union of your choice and have them send union organizers. The draw back of this approach is that you have to answer to a national, and if some other group that they represent goes out on strike, the abstractors may be asked to do the same in sympathy. You also give up a lot of independence. 

                    b.  The preferable route is to form your own union exclusively for abstractors. You would have to contact a labor attorney to set you. (This is not an area in which I practice). You can organize and structure the by laws to the express needs and desires of the membership, and the abstractors remain in full control of their objectives. 

              What can a union offer the abstractor that Naltea is not... group reductions on auto insurance, life insurace and health insurance  and a retirement plan (similar to teachers unions). You could also make membership in Naltea an added benefit of membership in your union.

               What are the benefits of the union...more effective representation in the market among the title companies and vendor managers. ..better control of price negotiation for an abstractor's services without the counter threat of price fixing. In so far as the fears of abstractors having to pay union wages to their employees is concerned, these expenses can be included in the increased price of the client's doing business with the union members. Will the clients have the option of dealing with non union abstractors? Certainly, but hopefully you can attract enough union members to make the prospect unattractive, and you are still free to educate the client's client to whom he answers by the weak link theory explained below.

    2.     The weak link:

                 As explained above to find the weak link in the food chain it is necessary to travel up the chain to the party that ultimately controls the funding, and for whom everyone lower in the chain works.  The weak link needs to be educated to how his interests are being handeled, and whether there is a better method.

                 This approach is used in other industries. I personally saw it work when I worked for CBS. One of the major Ad Agencies in New York was buying 400 rating points per weak of television advertising in the Chicago market. That is a huge amount of money when spread across an advertising campaign of several weeks duration. The media buyer cut CBS out of the deal for whatever reason we do not know. We put together a sweet deal and approached the client directly to educate the client as to what was available, but which was not considered by the media buyer. It worked. There was a re-buy of the market in which CBS got its fair share of the deal. The first time this happens the buyer is called up on the carpet to explain himself. If it happens a second time, the buyer is fired. If it happens a third time the Ad Agency loses the account.

             I think the same approach could be used by the abstractors, if they are organized properly.

   3.      Promotion:

            I think the position of the abstractors could be improved if the title community and general public better understood the nature of the work performed and its importance. Institutional advertising could be used to accomplish this. You may need to hire an Ad Agency or PR firm to accomplish this, or possibly this is a function that Naltea could perform. I understand how to buy rating points in both television and radio, and will be happy to share the knowledge. I can also explain how the Neilsen ratings work. 

Anyway, Jay, just a few more thoughts on the subject.
 

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Re: NALTEA question..long post - Robert Franco/OH
5/10/2006 11:23:23 AM (5315 views)
Re: NALTEA question..long post - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/10/2006 11:56:40 AM (5499 views)
Re: NALTEA question..long post - George Booth/OH
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Re: NALTEA question..long post - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: NALTEA question..long post - Vikki Moffitt/GA
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Re: NALTEA question - George Booth/OH
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Re: NALTEA question - Wendi See/SC
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Re: NALTEA question - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
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Re: NALTEA question - Jan Forster/NC
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Re: NALTEA question - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: NALTEA question - Jan Forster/NC
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Re: NALTEA question - Robert Breakell/CT
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Hey Jan, thanks and continue the research!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Hey Jan, thanks and continue the research!!! - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: NALTEA question - George Booth/OH
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Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: NALTEA question - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
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What to do? - Michael Persyn/TX
5/8/2006 8:07:33 AM (3284 views)
Re: What to do? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - Patrick Scott/IL
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Re: What to do? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: What to do? - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: What to do? - David Bloys/TX
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What if? - George Booth/OH
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PA Governor Signs Eminent Domain Law - Scott Perry/PA
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One more question???? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: One more question???? - George Booth/OH
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Re: One more question???? - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: One more question???? - Robert Franco/OH
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