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Online records report named Investigative Report of the Year - David Bloys/TX
4/11/2006 2:28:45 AM (3851 views)
Re: Online records report named Investigative Report of the Year - Jay Duncan/MO
4/11/2006 8:09:08 AM (3800 views)
Re: Online records report named Investigative Report of the Year - George Booth/OH
4/11/2006 8:30:52 AM (3784 views)
Re: Online records report named Investigative Report of the Year - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/11/2006 10:52:14 AM (3976 views)
Re: Online records report named Investigative Report of the Year - Robert Franco/OH
4/11/2006 11:57:59 AM (3958 views)
Re: Online records report named Investigative Report of the Year - Patrick Scott/IL
4/11/2006 12:40:14 PM (3939 views)
Re: Online records report named Investigative Report of the Year - David Bloys/TX
4/11/2006 5:15:23 PM (3824 views)
Re: Online records report named Investigative Report of the Year - Jay Duncan/MO
4/11/2006 5:21:35 PM (3785 views)
Re: Online records report named Investigative Report of the Year - joy doyle/NY
4/11/2006 7:40:06 PM (3789 views)
Re: Online records report named Investigative Report of the Year - David Bloys/TX
4/11/2006 9:42:51 PM (6260 views)
Re: Online records report named Investigative Report of the Year - joy doyle/NY
4/13/2006 1:21:07 AM (3820 views)
Re: Online records report named Investigative Report of the Year - David Bloys/TX
4/13/2006 7:47:59 AM (3807 views)
Re: Online records report named Investigative Report of the Year - J Nisonger/CA
4/12/2006 2:02:33 AM (3862 views)
Re: Online records report named Investigative Report of the Year - Wanda Steudel/OH
4/12/2006 12:22:54 PM (3745 views)
Way to Go, Dave!! - Scott Perry/PA
4/12/2006 4:53:24 PM (3842 views)

Anyone heard of "Exclusive Settlement Services"? - Jim Riggs/IN
4/10/2006 6:51:32 PM (2742 views)
Re: Anyone heard of "Exclusive Settlement Services"? - Kim Cowles/WI
4/10/2006 8:40:53 PM (3932 views)
Re: Anyone heard of "Exclusive Settlement Services"? - Anne Gilbert/VT
4/17/2006 7:00:31 AM (3816 views)
Re: Anyone heard of "Exclusive Settlement Services"? - Shannon Finnessy/WI
4/17/2006 12:54:28 PM (3882 views)
Re: Anyone heard of "Exclusive Settlement Services"? - Tammy Knight/MO
4/18/2006 11:16:13 PM (3860 views)
Re: Anyone heard of "Exclusive Settlement Services"? - Jim Riggs/IN
4/20/2006 8:37:06 PM (3814 views)
Re: Anyone heard of "Exclusive Settlement Services"? - Walter Swinehart/PA
5/30/2006 9:34:14 AM (3909 views)

Michigan Land Title agency - Ellen Maher/MI
4/10/2006 3:28:33 PM (2211 views)

SPOTLIGHT: Bill Garrett - Robert Franco/OH
4/10/2006 3:19:32 PM (2094 views)

Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources-Part 2 - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
4/10/2006 12:02:18 PM (2108 views)




A Thank You - Wanda Steudel/OH
4/7/2006 4:07:23 PM (2601 views)
Re: A Thank You - Robert Franco/OH
4/7/2006 5:56:29 PM (3543 views)

reimbursement for mileage/gas - Deborah Manion/VA
4/7/2006 3:56:18 PM (2726 views)
Re: reimbursement for mileage/gas - Robert Franco/OH
4/7/2006 5:52:21 PM (3653 views)
Re: reimbursement for mileage/gas - Shannon Blatt/VA
4/7/2006 8:25:27 PM (3724 views)
Re: reimbursement for mileage/gas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/8/2006 10:04:48 AM (3646 views)

HUD-1's and fees - Robert Breakell/CT
4/3/2006 6:22:58 PM (2775 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - Shannon Blatt/VA
4/3/2006 9:10:13 PM (3578 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
4/4/2006 8:07:44 AM (3580 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - George Booth/OH
4/4/2006 1:09:22 PM (3729 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/5/2006 10:27:32 AM (3655 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - George Booth/OH
4/5/2006 11:31:29 AM (3625 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - George Booth/OH
4/5/2006 11:32:53 AM (3549 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - Robert Breakell/CT
4/5/2006 5:35:23 PM (3561 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
4/5/2006 7:30:51 PM (3587 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/6/2006 12:50:27 PM (3532 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - George Booth/OH
4/7/2006 11:08:37 PM (3616 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/8/2006 9:58:17 AM (3603 views)

LLC's...Operating Agreements - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/3/2006 8:56:03 AM (2597 views)
Re: LLC's...Operating Agreements - Robert Breakell/CT
4/3/2006 1:13:49 PM (3613 views)
Re: LLC's...Operating Agreements - Vikki Moffitt/GA
4/5/2006 8:59:30 AM (3682 views)
Re: LLC's...Operating Agreements - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/6/2006 10:53:19 AM (3523 views)
Re: LLC's...Operating Agreements - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/5/2006 10:28:34 AM (3557 views)
Re: LLC's...Operating Agreements - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/5/2006 10:39:13 AM (3508 views)

Anyone familiar with a company named Source Title Solutions, Inc. ? - Joseph Weaver/VA
4/1/2006 6:47:51 PM (2290 views)

Practicing Law - Ricky Farrow/FL
3/29/2006 9:21:10 PM (2653 views)
Re: Practicing Law - Anne Gilbert/VT
4/6/2006 7:09:18 AM (3980 views)
CT & VT Recording Alike - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
4/6/2006 8:53:11 AM (3694 views)
Re: Practicing Law - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
4/6/2006 8:59:15 AM (3639 views)
Re: Practicing Law - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/6/2006 1:06:21 PM (3591 views)
Re: Practicing Law - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
4/6/2006 4:26:33 PM (3811 views)
Re: Practicing Law - Anne Gilbert/VT
4/6/2006 4:45:31 PM (3750 views)
Re: Practicing Law - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/6/2006 4:46:05 PM (3720 views)
Re: Practicing Law - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
4/6/2006 10:33:51 PM (3714 views)
Re: Practicing Law - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/7/2006 5:24:26 AM (3613 views)
Re: Practicing Law - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/7/2006 11:07:47 AM (3634 views)

Once you are licensed then whats next? - Christine Sheeler/PA
3/29/2006 9:21:37 AM (2721 views)
Re: Once you are licensed then whats next? - George Booth/OH
3/29/2006 10:26:24 AM (3651 views)
Re: Once you are licensed then whats next? - Christine Sheeler/PA
3/29/2006 10:34:56 AM (3720 views)
Re: Once you are licensed then whats next? - George Booth/OH
3/29/2006 9:25:03 PM (3594 views)
Re: Once you are licensed then whats next? - Christine Sheeler/PA
3/30/2006 11:10:40 AM (3603 views)

Business 101 - Robert Franco/OH
3/28/2006 1:01:49 PM (2224 views)

Federal Tax Lien question - Kim Cowles/WI
3/28/2006 9:16:59 AM (2729 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - George Booth/OH
3/28/2006 9:48:04 AM (3886 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Ricky Farrow/FL
3/28/2006 3:13:52 PM (3744 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Robert Franco/OH
3/28/2006 4:12:57 PM (3948 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Jay Duncan/MO
3/28/2006 10:35:50 PM (3776 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Scott Perry/PA
3/28/2006 11:32:53 PM (3725 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Helene/GA
3/29/2006 1:01:49 AM (3701 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/29/2006 8:13:08 AM (3757 views)

It is the abstractor's job to report which liens, mortgages, etc. encumber the title to a property only. When I was doing title searches I normally dealt with the issue of tax liens, mechanic's liens and other time barred encumbrances as follows:
 
     1.   If there was a release specifically addressing the lien, the lien was not listed in the abstract as an encumbrance. 

     2.   If the lien was not released or not expired it was listed as an encumbrance. 

     3.   If the lien was not released, but there was some question as to whether the lien was expired or renewed, the lien was listed as a potential encumbrance to the extent that it was not expired or otherwise released, and a notation was made in the abstract that further inquiry should be made as to the current status of the lien.

It is not the abstractor's  function to make judgment calls in questionable situations. Remember, you are only getting paid $50.00 or less for a current owner search, possibly driving 25-30 miles to a town hall at your expense to perform the search , or possibly you are one of the abstractors being asked to reduce your price and include the cost of the copies in return for nothing from the client. Why should the abstractor incur the liability of making this determination? Scott is right. Someone else is being paid the big bucks to make this determination. Let him know the potential encumbrance is there, and let him earn his fee.

Before I issue a title insurance policy, I want to know the current status of potential problems rather than run the risk of insuring over a problem. When I am confronted with the problem of a possibly time barred lien, I list it as an exception to coverage until the property owner produces a copy of a duly recorded release.

When you can have the absolute release of the lien why rely on a time limitation which may or may not mave been renewed, the renewal or release may have been recorded out of the chain of title, or which may have been tolled (extended) for some reason. Even if it has not properly been tolled, arguments can be made for it which require a ruling of the court, and you have to go to the trouble and expense to defend. It is a drop in the bucket to the taxing authority if they are ruled wrong. I know of someone locally that got into a dispute with the IRS. He appealed all the way through the courts, and finally was driven out of business only to have the IRS finally concede that he was right.

I am very pleased when an  abstractor has brought a potential problem to my attention. It gives me the peace of mind of insisting on a release of the lien.

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Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Kim Cowles/WI
3/29/2006 8:49:39 AM (3700 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Brad McCollom/IN
3/29/2006 6:11:07 AM (5798 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Danielle Nelson/WI
3/29/2006 2:31:31 PM (3694 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
3/30/2006 9:10:26 AM (3629 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Jeanne Johnson/FL
4/3/2006 2:27:09 PM (3695 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Kristi Lee/NE
4/10/2006 11:54:33 AM (3559 views)

Privacy issues:selling America - Robert Breakell/CT
3/24/2006 5:51:05 PM (4031 views)
Re: Privacy issues:selling America - George Booth/OH
3/25/2006 9:15:51 AM (3544 views)
Re: Privacy issues:selling America - Robert Breakell/CT
3/25/2006 2:20:10 PM (3544 views)
Re: Privacy issues:selling America - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/25/2006 5:30:43 PM (3598 views)
Re: Privacy issues:selling America - Scott Perry/PA
3/25/2006 8:26:41 PM (3569 views)
Re: Privacy issues:selling America - Scott Perry/PA
3/25/2006 8:33:41 PM (3509 views)


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