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Is the industry really threatened? This may help some of you.... - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/28/2006 11:10:27 PM (2168 views)
Re: Is the industry really threatened? This may help some of you.... - Scott Perry/PA
3/1/2006 12:00:33 AM (3102 views)
Re: Is the industry really threatened? This may help some of you.... - Jason Sheppard/PA
3/1/2006 9:14:09 AM (3004 views)
Re: Is the industry really threatened? This may help some of you.... - L ROLAND/CA
3/1/2006 12:47:07 PM (2917 views)
Re: Is the industry really threatened? This may help some of you.... - Jason Sheppard/PA
3/1/2006 4:40:14 PM (3141 views)

Looks as though others in the industry are feeling threatened... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/28/2006 4:20:42 PM (3612 views)
Re: Looks as though others in the industry are feeling threatened... - Robert Breakell/CT
2/28/2006 5:50:30 PM (3331 views)

A New Low for Scammers - Jay Duncan/MO
2/28/2006 1:08:09 PM (2344 views)
Re: A New Low for Scammers - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/28/2006 1:10:49 PM (3085 views)
Re: A New Low for Scammers - George Booth/OH
2/28/2006 1:24:49 PM (3171 views)

Just a thought - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/28/2006 11:39:18 AM (2245 views)
Re: Just a thought - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/28/2006 12:24:59 PM (3027 views)
Re: Just a thought - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/28/2006 12:27:48 PM (3024 views)
Re: Just a thought - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2006 12:33:02 PM (3182 views)
Re: Just a thought - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/28/2006 12:40:00 PM (3210 views)
Re: Just a thought - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/28/2006 12:55:46 PM (3300 views)
Re: Just a thought - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/28/2006 1:00:17 PM (3105 views)

Clear Choice Abstracts - Sandra Morton/KS
2/27/2006 4:07:57 PM (2560 views)
Re: Clear Choice Abstracts - J Nisonger/CA
2/27/2006 8:14:26 PM (3250 views)
Re: Clear Choice Abstracts - Sandra Morton/KS
2/27/2006 8:46:29 PM (3542 views)
Re: Clear Choice Abstracts - Langdon Knight/MO
2/28/2006 12:19:26 AM (3268 views)
Re: Clear Choice Abstracts - Edward Huguenin/SC
3/18/2008 11:30:12 AM (3177 views)


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A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/25/2006 6:22:18 PM (3793 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Scott Perry/PA
2/25/2006 7:11:26 PM (2979 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/25/2006 7:36:11 PM (3021 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/26/2006 6:45:16 AM (3164 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/26/2006 8:25:34 AM (2945 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Loretta Reed/MD
2/26/2006 10:02:32 AM (2993 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
2/26/2006 12:50:42 PM (3010 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Loretta Reed/MD
2/26/2006 1:16:55 PM (2980 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
2/26/2006 1:25:12 PM (3110 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 7:54:19 AM (3060 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/27/2006 9:13:53 AM (3010 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 9:58:11 AM (2888 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Robert Franco/OH
2/27/2006 10:33:25 AM (2899 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Robert Franco/OH
2/27/2006 10:45:25 AM (2869 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 10:50:39 AM (2880 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Scott Perry/PA
2/27/2006 11:16:58 AM (2963 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/27/2006 11:25:47 AM (2855 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/27/2006 11:19:56 AM (2871 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 5:31:37 PM (2819 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/27/2006 12:11:27 PM (2766 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 12:28:09 PM (2935 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - George Booth/OH
2/28/2006 1:41:56 PM (3005 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2006 1:51:42 PM (2847 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/28/2006 2:01:06 PM (3002 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - George Booth/OH
2/28/2006 2:11:36 PM (3265 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/28/2006 3:32:28 PM (2888 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/28/2006 3:42:18 PM (2798 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/28/2006 4:26:23 PM (2768 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/28/2006 4:38:05 PM (2759 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/28/2006 4:51:52 PM (2774 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Robert Breakell/CT
2/28/2006 6:20:25 PM (2856 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/28/2006 6:26:00 PM (2670 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/28/2006 7:19:46 PM (2557 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - George Booth/OH
2/28/2006 6:45:22 PM (2831 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/1/2006 7:16:08 AM (2661 views)

George,

Your resoponse is pretty much what I expected. The emphasis is on the price of the search rather than the quality of the product. Can you train a college kid to do a search for $9.00 per hour...certainly. Does it increase your exposure to claims made against you for  poor workmanship...absolutely.

I am having some difficulty in understanding your position. On the one hand you complain  about the quality of American abstractors' work, but on the other hand you appear to embrace a position that fosters poor workmanship. The cost of the search is an expense that is passed to the buyer/borrower in a real estate transaction. As a homeowner I would want the best protection I could get. The acquisition of real estate is probably the most important investment Americans make. The cost of the title search is negligible by comparison to the investment. Furthermore, the markup on the HUD 1 forms charged for a title search by some title companies is huge. They are making money on both ends of the deal. How long this will continue with RESPA reform and investigations urged by the federal government is unknown .

I see the $9.00 per hour abstractors of which you speak in the town halls. They are a joke. In order to break even financially they have to increase the number of searches they perform each day at the expense of the time allocated to each search.

I saw one of them rush in to perform a current owner search completely on the town hall's computer. He never once pulled any of the documents to verify the accuracy of the items listed in his abstract, and rushed out the door to his next search.What he did not realize was that the town only included its land records in its internal computer. The water and sewer liens were kept in a separate written index. The abstractor had never reviewed any of this information for his search.Why you would want to issue a title insurance policy on the strength of this type of search is beyond me.  Your position sounds like the auto manufacturer that produced an automobile with a fatal defect, but had determined that it was cheaper to settle the claims than to perform a recall of the product.

In your post you indicate that an Indian can be paid $5.00 per hour. I don't know how you are going to do this since that is less than federal and/or state minimum wage. I therefore, must presume that you are talking about  outsourcing the work to India where $5.00 per hour is a livable wage.  So I must repeat my earlier statement that this cannot be done and still maintain the quality of the product because the Indian abstractor must rely on an online system to perform the search. The records necessary to perform the search on line are incomplete. I know for a fact that someone sitting in New Delhi cannot perform an online search of the land records, probate records, foreclosure records, tax lien records and bankruptcy records for a property located  in Branford, Connecticut.

With respect to Indian abstractors you state " It has been proven obviously that they have a higher capacity for learning technology...". Well, I guess that is the generalization for the day. Reminds me of something someone told me in law school..."Adopt a good set of prejudices because it will save you a lot of time making decisions." He was joking of course, but your statement does not sound like a joke.

In so far as giving price breaks is concerned, I do not reduce my prices. I produce a quality product. If you want the quality you pay for it. What you fail to realize is that everything is pretty much at rock bottom prices industry wide. There is no room left to negotiate. It is easier for me to turn away low ball clients, and concentrate my efforts in other areas that are more financially rewarding.

I issue title insurance policies also, and I would never rely on anything less than the most accurate search I could get.

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Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Robert Franco/OH
3/1/2006 10:46:02 AM (2574 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Ellen Malloy/MO
3/1/2006 9:50:23 AM (2528 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
3/1/2006 11:07:03 AM (2513 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - J Nisonger/CA
3/4/2006 5:56:33 PM (2488 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - George Booth/OH
3/7/2006 11:43:56 AM (2591 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - J Nisonger/CA
3/7/2006 12:27:51 PM (2561 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
3/7/2006 1:27:23 PM (2519 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - J Nisonger/CA
3/7/2006 6:25:07 PM (2395 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Scott Perry/PA
3/7/2006 7:57:51 PM (2494 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
3/7/2006 11:00:40 PM (2646 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Scott Perry/PA
3/7/2006 11:34:02 PM (2349 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Robert Franco/OH
3/8/2006 11:18:12 AM (2418 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
3/8/2006 12:16:45 PM (2356 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/8/2006 12:38:28 PM (2515 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - George Booth/OH
3/9/2006 7:49:05 PM (2438 views)

DOES ANYONE KNOW ABSTRACT, USA - Angelica Schneider/IN
2/24/2006 7:38:33 PM (2354 views)
Re: DOES ANYONE KNOW ABSTRACT, USA - Ricky Farrow/FL
2/25/2006 10:40:38 AM (2921 views)
Re: DOES ANYONE KNOW ABSTRACT, USA - Ricky Farrow/FL
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Re: DOES ANYONE KNOW ABSTRACT, USA - Angelica Schneider/IN
2/28/2006 6:15:09 PM (2998 views)
Re: DOES ANYONE KNOW ABSTRACT, USA - Ricky Farrow/FL
2/28/2006 6:32:59 PM (2949 views)

NE REAL ESTATE SERVICES - Paul Hughes/RI
2/24/2006 5:06:01 PM (1838 views)

www.naltea.org will be moving also - Jay Duncan/MO
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In Response to My Name and TruClose - Jason Sheppard/PA
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Re: In Response to My Name and TruClose - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: In Response to My Name and TruClose - Jason Sheppard/PA
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Re: In Response to My Name and TruClose - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: In Response to My Name and TruClose - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 12:32:12 PM (4809 views)

It's Just Too Bad - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/23/2006 10:24:07 PM (2491 views)
Re: It's Just Too Bad - Tammy Knight/MO
2/24/2006 12:22:14 AM (3041 views)
Re: It's Just Too Bad - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/24/2006 5:51:26 AM (3019 views)
Re: It's Just Too Bad - Scott Perry/PA
2/24/2006 7:14:10 AM (3021 views)
The Gospel According To J. T. - Scott Perry/PA
2/24/2006 8:14:45 AM (2991 views)
Re: The Gospel According To J. T. - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: The Gospel According To J. T. - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: The Gospel According To J. T. - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/24/2006 8:37:40 AM (2965 views)
Re: The Gospel According To J. T. - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: The Gospel According To J. T. - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: The Gospel According To J. T. - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: It's Just Too Bad - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: It's Just Too Bad - Robert Breakell/CT
2/24/2006 7:20:35 PM (2905 views)
Re: It's Just Too Bad - Scott Perry/PA
2/24/2006 7:41:48 PM (2841 views)
Re: It's Just Too Bad - Robert Breakell/CT
2/24/2006 7:56:12 PM (2923 views)
Re: It's Just Too Bad - Scott Perry/PA
2/24/2006 8:25:28 PM (2916 views)
Re: It's Just Too Bad - J Nisonger/CA
2/27/2006 8:33:59 PM (2981 views)

Calling all desperate abstractors - Wendi See/SC
2/23/2006 6:13:53 PM (3789 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Ricky Farrow/FL
2/23/2006 7:25:51 PM (2952 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Robert Franco/OH
2/23/2006 9:52:17 PM (3094 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Scott Perry/PA
2/23/2006 10:07:09 PM (3135 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/24/2006 6:54:29 AM (2996 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - George Booth/OH
2/25/2006 12:05:54 PM (3011 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - J Nisonger/CA
2/25/2006 2:42:15 PM (2911 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Wendi See/SC
2/26/2006 12:09:24 AM (2823 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - J Nisonger/CA
2/26/2006 10:01:47 PM (3014 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 10:52:49 AM (2925 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/28/2006 12:39:15 PM (2928 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/28/2006 12:44:39 PM (2860 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/28/2006 1:24:04 PM (2888 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
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Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - James "Lin" Toney/MS
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Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Jason Sheppard/PA
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Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/27/2006 6:11:28 PM (2781 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/1/2006 8:37:46 AM (2914 views)

Please Pray!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
2/23/2006 5:40:51 PM (2285 views)
Re: Please Pray!!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/23/2006 5:46:37 PM (2909 views)
Re: Please Pray!!! - Scott Perry/PA
2/23/2006 7:56:06 PM (2892 views)
Re: Please Pray!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
2/24/2006 11:15:58 AM (2718 views)
Re: Please Pray!!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 11:26:23 AM (2740 views)
Re: Please Pray!!! - Danielle Nelson/WI
2/24/2006 12:36:41 PM (2736 views)
Re: Please Pray!!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2006 8:34:26 PM (2780 views)

AM I WRONG? - Diane Rodriguez/CA
2/23/2006 12:24:31 PM (2319 views)
Re: AM I WRONG? - Julie Jasiunas/WI
2/23/2006 12:55:15 PM (2725 views)
Re: AM I WRONG? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/23/2006 1:12:36 PM (2660 views)
Re: AM I WRONG? - Diane Rodriguez/CA
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Re: AM I WRONG? - Robert Breakell/CT
2/23/2006 4:06:22 PM (2644 views)
Re: AM I WRONG? - Tammy Knight/MO
2/23/2006 11:58:31 PM (2666 views)
Re: AM I WRONG? - Danielle Nelson/WI
2/24/2006 12:34:10 PM (2606 views)


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