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Calling all desperate abstractors - Wendi See/SC
2/23/2006 6:13:53 PM (3839 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Ricky Farrow/FL
2/23/2006 7:25:51 PM (3095 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Robert Franco/OH
2/23/2006 9:52:17 PM (3210 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Scott Perry/PA
2/23/2006 10:07:09 PM (3269 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/24/2006 6:54:29 AM (3092 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - George Booth/OH
2/25/2006 12:05:54 PM (3140 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - J Nisonger/CA
2/25/2006 2:42:15 PM (2982 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Wendi See/SC
2/26/2006 12:09:24 AM (2891 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - J Nisonger/CA
2/26/2006 10:01:47 PM (3131 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 10:52:49 AM (3023 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/28/2006 12:39:15 PM (3025 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/28/2006 12:44:39 PM (2986 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/28/2006 1:24:04 PM (3008 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
2/28/2006 2:19:57 PM (3130 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/28/2006 4:13:02 PM (3052 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/28/2006 1:16:39 PM (2869 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/27/2006 6:11:28 PM (2906 views)
Re: Calling all desperate abstractors - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/1/2006 8:37:46 AM (3038 views)

Please Pray!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
2/23/2006 5:40:51 PM (2332 views)
Re: Please Pray!!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/23/2006 5:46:37 PM (3018 views)
Re: Please Pray!!! - Scott Perry/PA
2/23/2006 7:56:06 PM (2999 views)
Re: Please Pray!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
2/24/2006 11:15:58 AM (2814 views)
Re: Please Pray!!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 11:26:23 AM (2864 views)
Re: Please Pray!!! - Danielle Nelson/WI
2/24/2006 12:36:41 PM (2842 views)
Re: Please Pray!!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2006 8:34:26 PM (2872 views)

AM I WRONG? - Diane Rodriguez/CA
2/23/2006 12:24:31 PM (2385 views)
Re: AM I WRONG? - Julie Jasiunas/WI
2/23/2006 12:55:15 PM (2876 views)
Re: AM I WRONG? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/23/2006 1:12:36 PM (2793 views)
Re: AM I WRONG? - Diane Rodriguez/CA
2/23/2006 3:06:05 PM (2891 views)
Re: AM I WRONG? - Robert Breakell/CT
2/23/2006 4:06:22 PM (2766 views)
Re: AM I WRONG? - Tammy Knight/MO
2/23/2006 11:58:31 PM (2791 views)
Re: AM I WRONG? - Danielle Nelson/WI
2/24/2006 12:34:10 PM (2739 views)

Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - Ricky Farrow/FL
2/23/2006 11:30:21 AM (2490 views)
Re: Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/23/2006 11:48:01 AM (2812 views)
Re: Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - Jay Duncan/MO
2/23/2006 1:12:30 PM (2939 views)
Re: Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/23/2006 1:22:39 PM (2946 views)
Re: Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - ANDREW MOLLER/CT
2/23/2006 4:18:37 PM (2892 views)
Re: Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - Ricky Farrow/FL
2/23/2006 5:11:27 PM (2827 views)
Re: Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/23/2006 5:33:41 PM (2801 views)
Re: Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - Ricky Farrow/FL
2/23/2006 7:21:02 PM (2868 views)
Re: Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - Robert Franco/OH
2/23/2006 10:00:32 PM (3020 views)
Re: Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/24/2006 5:40:45 AM (2895 views)

Ricky,

Sorry that you are experiencing hard times. It is just representative of what most abstractors are going through at this time. The industry has taken a turn for the worse in the past ten years, and there does not seem to be any improvement on the horizon. The Fatco example is only the beginning. The other major title insurers will be following them to India. The remaining VM's which do not have the ability outsource to the third world have little to offer the abstractors in return for the heightened  level of service they want. Take a look at Wendi See's post above entitled "Calling all desparate abstractors." It will give you some idea of what the VM's at a major title company have offered her. This is not an isolated incident. The VM's nickle and dime approach to ordering an abstract has become almost pandemic.

If you have hedged your bet by starting a new business in an unrelated field, you can count yourself among the fortunate. You are moving in the right direction.We have reduced the abstracting function our firm does to almost nothing, and have refocused on closings and litigation. I have to say that if there was any resulting  reduction in revenue, it was not noticeable. If anything, there has been an improvement on the balance sheet for 2006 so far.

Many in the abstracting community are in a state of denial waiting for the environment to improve. It is not going to improve unless there is some serious legislation to end the outsourcing (highly unlikely) and the abstractors abandon their "customer is always right" attitude. It is time to get out.

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Re: Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - Charles Skinner/MI
2/27/2006 4:27:03 PM (2904 views)
Re: Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - Robert Franco/OH
2/27/2006 5:47:45 PM (2779 views)
Re: Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/28/2006 5:53:39 AM (2712 views)
Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - Patty/NJ
2/27/2006 6:07:09 PM (2804 views)
Re: Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - Ricky Farrow/FL
2/27/2006 6:29:56 PM (2888 views)
Re: Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2006 11:46:34 PM (2748 views)
Re: Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/28/2006 10:15:40 AM (2850 views)
Re: Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/28/2006 10:49:30 AM (2692 views)
Re: Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - Charles Skinner/MI
2/28/2006 5:34:19 PM (2766 views)
Re: Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/28/2006 8:18:47 PM (2830 views)
Re: Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - Charles Skinner/MI
3/1/2006 2:13:46 AM (2823 views)

Speach I'd Like to hear - David Bloys/TX
2/22/2006 10:07:06 PM (2313 views)
Just One Thing I'd Add... - Scott Perry/PA
2/22/2006 10:22:00 PM (2725 views)
Re: Just One Thing I'd Add... - Kurt deVries/FL
2/23/2006 11:54:08 AM (2671 views)
Re: Speach I'd Like to hear - Kurt deVries/FL
2/23/2006 9:57:45 AM (2727 views)
Re: Speach I'd Like to hear - Wendi See/SC
2/23/2006 6:00:21 PM (2791 views)


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judgement & lien searches - christine/MA
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Re: judgement & lien searches - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: judgement & lien searches - Kelli Gorman/TX
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Re: judgement & lien searches - christine/MA
2/23/2006 5:21:37 PM (2818 views)
Re: judgement & lien searches - Robert Breakell/CT
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ChoicePoint Adds Insult to Injury - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: ChoicePoint Adds Insult to Injury - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: ChoicePoint Adds Insult to Injury - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: ChoicePoint Adds Insult to Injury - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: ChoicePoint Adds Insult to Injury - David Bloys/TX
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Re: ChoicePoint Adds Insult to Injury - David Bloys/TX
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Re: ChoicePoint Adds Insult to Injury - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: ChoicePoint Adds Insult to Injury - David Bloys/TX
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Does your state have Torrens or Registered Land? - Jeanne Johnson/MN
2/21/2006 7:13:10 PM (2422 views)
Re: Does your state have Torrens or Registered Land? - Patrick Scott/IL
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Re: Does your state have Torrens or Registered Land? - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Does your state have Torrens or Registered Land? - Patrick Scott/IL
2/22/2006 9:22:22 PM (2932 views)
Mrs. O'Leary's Cow and the Courthouse - Jeanne Johnson/FL
2/22/2006 7:46:18 PM (2937 views)
Re: Mrs. O'Leary's Cow and the Courthouse - Patrick Scott/IL
2/22/2006 9:09:02 PM (4759 views)
Re: Mrs. O'Leary's Cow and the Courthouse - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/23/2006 10:22:43 AM (2920 views)
Re: Does your state have Torrens or Registered Land? - David Nixon/MA
2/23/2006 1:05:18 PM (2798 views)

TruClose/Jason Shepherd - Pennsylvania - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/21/2006 6:21:49 PM (3741 views)
Re: TruClose/Jason Shepherd - Pennsylvania - James "Lin" Toney/MS
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Re: TruClose/Jason Shepherd - Pennsylvania - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/23/2006 5:42:25 PM (2950 views)
Re: TruClose/Jason Shepherd - Pennsylvania - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: TruClose/Jason Shepherd - Pennsylvania - Jason Sheppard/PA
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Re: TruClose/Jason Shepherd - Pennsylvania - Jason Sheppard/PA
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Re: TruClose/Jason Shepherd - Pennsylvania - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/24/2006 8:21:24 AM (2900 views)
Re: TruClose/Jason Shepherd - Pennsylvania - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 9:10:38 AM (2979 views)
Re: TruClose/Jason Shepherd - Pennsylvania - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/24/2006 9:27:02 AM (2867 views)
Re: TruClose/Jason Shepherd - Pennsylvania - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 10:14:26 AM (2890 views)
Re: TruClose/Jason Shepherd - Pennsylvania - Scott Perry/PA
2/24/2006 8:25:23 AM (2997 views)
Re: TruClose/Jason Shepherd - Pennsylvania - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 8:59:47 AM (2813 views)
Re: TruClose/Jason Shepherd - Pennsylvania - Scott Perry/PA
2/24/2006 6:18:38 PM (2840 views)

What is a "Certificate of title" - Jeanne Johnson/MN
2/20/2006 11:45:19 AM (2574 views)
Re: What is a "Certificate of title" - Robert Franco/OH
2/20/2006 12:18:15 PM (2975 views)
Re: What is a "Certificate of title" - Scott Perry/PA
2/20/2006 12:18:22 PM (2878 views)
Re: What is a "Certificate of title" - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/20/2006 1:16:44 PM (2833 views)
Re: What is a "Certificate of title" - Jacqueline Costa/RI
2/20/2006 1:39:45 PM (2849 views)
Re: What is a "Certificate of title" - Scott Perry/PA
2/20/2006 1:56:41 PM (2919 views)
Re: What is a "Certificate of title" - Ricky Farrow/FL
2/20/2006 9:48:22 PM (2852 views)
Re: What is a "Certificate of title" - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/21/2006 6:04:04 AM (2796 views)
Re: What is a "Certificate of title" - Helga Hinck/NH
2/24/2006 12:04:53 PM (2867 views)

Jay Duncan - please call me - Vendor Relations Dept. - U.S. Title Search, Inc./NJ
2/20/2006 11:32:35 AM (2415 views)
Re: Jay Duncan - please call me - Jay Duncan/MO
2/20/2006 1:21:03 PM (2969 views)

David? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/20/2006 8:09:12 AM (2201 views)
Re: David? - David Bloys/TX
2/20/2006 11:03:21 AM (2674 views)
Re: David? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/20/2006 11:14:29 AM (2719 views)

Companies that don't pay - Wendi See/SC
2/17/2006 11:06:54 PM (2463 views)
Re: Companies that don't pay - Scott Perry/PA
2/18/2006 12:56:02 AM (3029 views)
Re: Companies that don't pay - Wendi See/SC
2/18/2006 2:56:58 PM (2935 views)
Re: Companies that don't pay - Scott Perry/PA
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Hey Scott - Tammy Knight/MO
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Re: Hey Scott - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Hey Scott - Tammy Knight/MO
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Re: Companies that don't pay - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Companies that don't pay - Wendi See/SC
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Re: Companies that don't pay - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Okay..honest opinion needed... - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: Okay..honest opinion needed... - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Okay..honest opinion needed... - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: Okay..honest opinion needed... - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Okay..honest opinion needed... - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: Okay..honest opinion needed... - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Okay..honest opinion needed... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/22/2006 10:29:05 PM (2943 views)
Re: Okay..honest opinion needed... - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/23/2006 6:10:50 AM (2944 views)

Sex Week - Kevin Ahern/CT
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