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Requesting TPL input (not my field of expertise) - Christine Patnaude/NJ
2/16/2006 8:41:23 PM (2557 views)
Re: Requesting TPL input (not my field of expertise) - Scott Perry/PA
2/16/2006 10:15:37 PM (2735 views)
Re: Requesting TPL input (not my field of expertise) - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/17/2006 4:46:18 AM (2807 views)
Re: Requesting TPL input (not my field of expertise) - Christine Patnaude/NJ
2/17/2006 6:31:01 AM (2802 views)
Re: Requesting TPL input (not my field of expertise) - Robert Breakell/CT
2/17/2006 8:58:08 AM (2668 views)
Re: Requesting TPL input (not my field of expertise) - Robert Franco/OH
2/17/2006 9:35:30 AM (2640 views)

County Clerk Victim of I.D. Theft - David Bloys/TX
2/16/2006 8:58:31 AM (3427 views)
Re: County Clerk Victim of I.D. Theft - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/16/2006 10:23:39 AM (2897 views)

ashamed of ourselves - Deborah Manion/VA
2/14/2006 5:16:00 PM (2317 views)
Re: ashamed of ourselves - Robert Franco/OH
2/14/2006 5:31:55 PM (3039 views)
Re: ashamed of ourselves - Scott Perry/PA
2/14/2006 5:32:19 PM (3059 views)
Re: ashamed of ourselves - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/15/2006 3:09:31 PM (3003 views)
Re: ashamed of ourselves - Scott Perry/PA
2/15/2006 7:27:01 PM (2989 views)
Re: ashamed of ourselves - J Nisonger/CA
2/16/2006 4:32:47 AM (2951 views)
Re: ashamed of ourselves - Scott Perry/PA
2/16/2006 7:40:32 AM (2895 views)
Re: ashamed of ourselves - J Nisonger/CA
2/14/2006 6:16:38 PM (2948 views)
Re: ashamed of ourselves - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/14/2006 9:20:59 PM (2958 views)
Re: ashamed of ourselves - Danielle Nelson/WI
2/15/2006 3:02:22 PM (2920 views)
Re: ashamed of ourselves - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/18/2006 11:54:00 AM (2779 views)

off topic...death of a teenager.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/12/2006 9:57:50 PM (2274 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/12/2006 11:46:54 PM (2875 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Deborah Manion/VA
2/13/2006 4:15:35 PM (2736 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/14/2006 5:30:35 PM (2740 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/14/2006 9:40:08 PM (2674 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Jay Duncan/MO
2/14/2006 10:26:56 PM (2659 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/15/2006 1:42:58 AM (2623 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/15/2006 12:45:49 PM (2707 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Helene/GA
2/22/2006 11:31:55 PM (2719 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Vikki Moffitt/GA
3/5/2006 7:26:11 PM (2778 views)

Mobile Closing Resources - L ROLAND/CA
2/10/2006 1:54:34 PM (1691 views)


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Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - David Bloys/TX
2/10/2006 11:31:19 AM (3157 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Robert Breakell/CT
2/10/2006 5:56:24 PM (2882 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Jan Forster/NC
2/10/2006 6:24:34 PM (2765 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - David Bloys/TX
2/10/2006 7:49:29 PM (2802 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Donna Grady/NC
2/11/2006 12:13:18 AM (2888 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - David Bloys/TX
2/11/2006 1:16:19 AM (2787 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/11/2006 9:38:48 AM (2905 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Jan Forster/NC
2/11/2006 1:29:43 PM (2767 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/11/2006 6:21:05 AM (2839 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Robert Breakell/CT
2/11/2006 8:57:27 AM (2815 views)

Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Donna Grady/NC
2/9/2006 11:14:33 PM (2277 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - David Bloys/TX
2/10/2006 12:20:21 AM (2998 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Scott Perry/PA
2/10/2006 7:57:29 AM (2962 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - David Bloys/TX
2/10/2006 10:07:03 AM (2842 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/10/2006 10:13:57 AM (2854 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/10/2006 10:19:32 AM (2925 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Robert Franco/OH
2/10/2006 10:19:38 AM (2906 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Slade Smith/OH
2/10/2006 7:44:32 PM (2782 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Donna Grady/NC
2/10/2006 11:47:58 PM (2849 views)

Invasion of Privacy - Donna Grady/NC
2/9/2006 9:57:49 PM (2102 views)
Re: Invasion of Privacy - Slade Smith/OH
2/10/2006 7:38:49 PM (2802 views)

Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - NA/FL
2/9/2006 6:10:41 PM (2488 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Scott Perry/PA
2/9/2006 7:18:47 PM (3116 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - NA/FL
2/10/2006 10:17:28 AM (3148 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/10/2006 10:21:33 AM (3036 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - L ROLAND/CA
2/10/2006 12:53:21 PM (2918 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/10/2006 1:04:52 PM (2868 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/12/2006 3:17:43 PM (2957 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Doug Hollowell/TX
2/14/2006 3:54:53 PM (2921 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/14/2006 9:07:51 PM (2831 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/15/2006 10:08:11 AM (2884 views)

This simply re-confirms my earlier belief that the title companies and VM's are more interested in the bottom line of the balance sheet than in the accuracy of the title search. The debate of the accuracy of online and non- online data based disc searches has been discussed ad nauseum on this forum. I will not beat it to death any further, but I wanted to disclose an interesting experience I had yesterday with the inaccuracy of on line searches. Connecticut has only two cities currently on line with respect to there land records, Norwich and Stamford. I did a search yesterday in Norwich. I normally do the initial search of the written records, and check the computer to verify conformity.  One of the documents showing up in the index (both written and computer) was a release of mortgage. The margin notation also indicated that this was a release. In reality it was an assignment..not a release. The mortgage was still active. You had to check the actual document to determine the nature as an assignment.

Norwich markets its system for fee. Supposedly you are able to perform a title search from your office. The system does allow you to image each of the documents, and imaging the assignment on the computer would have disclosed its nature as an assignment rather than a release also. My concern is with the search being performed on the otherside of the world, is the third world "abstractor" going to know enough to examine the documents or simply to rely on an inaccurate index? India has a legal system influenced by an English system of justice, like ours, but it is also shaped by the Indian experience. Is the third world"abstractor" going to understand the impact on title of each of the documents in the land records? What happens if the search is done in China whose "legal system" is totally alien to ours?

Connecticut will probably never go completely on line because the tax bases of the smaller towns will not justify the expense. However, the other alternative is the system marketed by data brokers as a non online system of computerized discs. The problem is the lag time between update discs.
Several years ago there was a company that was offering the same type of system for computerized legal research. Their selling point was that it saved you a trip to the law library to perform research. It updated the data base of case law 4 times per year. The problem was that it did not save you the trouble of going to the law library because the update discs did not come out fast enough to include the most recent law in your research. The same is true of the land records discs marketed by the data brokers. The problem is probably even more severe because the land records are updated on an hourly basis.

Ultimately, the title companies will make money, and look for someone at which to point the finger when the title insurance claims begin. The title insurance companies will construe the policies as narrowly as possibly to deny coverage to the homeowner, and the homeowner will become low man on the totem pole with respect to marketability of his title.

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Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Robert Franco/OH
2/15/2006 10:21:22 AM (3019 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/15/2006 10:53:11 AM (4278 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/15/2006 6:17:01 PM (3074 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - J Nisonger/CA
2/16/2006 4:43:16 AM (3000 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/16/2006 5:45:35 AM (2949 views)

Stewart Title of India - Ricky Farrow/FL
2/8/2006 6:54:38 PM (3871 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/9/2006 5:37:27 AM (2946 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/9/2006 9:40:43 AM (2937 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/9/2006 10:11:46 AM (3073 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - David Bloys/TX
2/9/2006 10:41:53 AM (2974 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/9/2006 10:47:10 AM (2941 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/9/2006 11:35:58 AM (2938 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2006 11:22:04 AM (2834 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Jan Forster/NC
2/9/2006 3:18:08 PM (2991 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - David Bloys/TX
2/9/2006 6:29:01 PM (2825 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/14/2006 10:56:42 AM (2891 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2006 11:24:32 AM (2892 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Norean/GA
2/9/2006 4:26:21 PM (3202 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/9/2006 4:46:34 PM (2816 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/9/2006 5:11:45 PM (2824 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Jan Forster/NC
2/9/2006 5:37:03 PM (2855 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - David Bloys/TX
2/9/2006 7:01:17 PM (4318 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - NA/FL
2/10/2006 12:17:17 PM (2884 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - David Bloys/TX
2/10/2006 7:54:39 PM (2862 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Helene/GA
2/23/2006 12:24:41 AM (2731 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/23/2006 8:30:44 AM (2742 views)

Error Rates - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/8/2006 3:16:43 PM (2204 views)
Re: Error Rates - George Booth/OH
2/8/2006 5:50:08 PM (4241 views)
Re: Error Rates - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/8/2006 6:38:55 PM (2804 views)
Re: Error Rates - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2006 11:42:41 AM (2855 views)
Re: Error Rates - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/9/2006 2:43:00 PM (2821 views)
Re: Error Rates - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2006 5:01:16 PM (2752 views)

Policy Writing - George Booth/OH
2/8/2006 11:54:01 AM (2166 views)
Re: Policy Writing - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/8/2006 12:42:32 PM (2882 views)
Re: Policy Writing - George Booth/OH
2/8/2006 1:18:30 PM (2756 views)
Re: Policy Writing - George Booth/OH
2/8/2006 1:43:43 PM (2827 views)
Re: Policy Writing - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/9/2006 9:56:18 AM (2711 views)
Re: Policy Writing - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2006 11:17:38 AM (2788 views)
Re: Policy Writing - George Booth/OH
2/9/2006 2:39:45 PM (2797 views)
Re: Policy Writing - Doug Hollowell/TX
2/14/2006 4:28:47 PM (2804 views)

Another judgement question - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/8/2006 10:53:11 AM (2276 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/8/2006 11:05:21 AM (2951 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/8/2006 3:11:43 PM (2788 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Smitty Strickland/SC
2/14/2006 6:59:11 PM (2876 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Kelli Gorman/TX
2/15/2006 2:23:21 PM (2761 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/15/2006 9:33:35 PM (3000 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Scott Perry/PA
2/16/2006 12:16:29 AM (2757 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/16/2006 8:29:49 AM (2825 views)

Just checking - Tammy Knight/MO
2/7/2006 10:30:25 PM (1897 views)

Outrageous Copy Costs - Danielle Nelson/WI
2/7/2006 1:06:16 PM (2326 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Matthew DeLand/NY
2/7/2006 1:31:37 PM (3080 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Danielle Nelson/WI
2/7/2006 1:49:42 PM (3123 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - FOR ON-LINE SEARCHES ONLY - Jay Duncan/MO
2/7/2006 2:25:22 PM (4574 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - FOR ON-LINE SEARCHES ONLY - David Bloys/TX
2/7/2006 2:56:37 PM (2940 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Patrick Scott/IL
2/7/2006 1:53:08 PM (3138 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Danielle Nelson/WI
2/7/2006 2:53:43 PM (2924 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/8/2006 10:55:57 AM (2887 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Danielle Nelson/WI
2/8/2006 2:22:36 PM (2924 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/8/2006 2:59:47 PM (2917 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/8/2006 5:38:56 AM (2863 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Robert Franco/OH
2/8/2006 10:29:48 AM (2915 views)


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