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off topic...death of a teenager.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/12/2006 9:57:50 PM (2470 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/12/2006 11:46:54 PM (3433 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Deborah Manion/VA
2/13/2006 4:15:35 PM (3320 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/14/2006 5:30:35 PM (3316 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/14/2006 9:40:08 PM (3264 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Jay Duncan/MO
2/14/2006 10:26:56 PM (3227 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/15/2006 1:42:58 AM (3184 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/15/2006 12:45:49 PM (3286 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Helene/GA
2/22/2006 11:31:55 PM (3276 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Vikki Moffitt/GA
3/5/2006 7:26:11 PM (3381 views)

Mobile Closing Resources - L ROLAND/CA
2/10/2006 1:54:34 PM (1875 views)

Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - David Bloys/TX
2/10/2006 11:31:19 AM (3478 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Robert Breakell/CT
2/10/2006 5:56:24 PM (3505 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Jan Forster/NC
2/10/2006 6:24:34 PM (3365 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - David Bloys/TX
2/10/2006 7:49:29 PM (3415 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Donna Grady/NC
2/11/2006 12:13:18 AM (3534 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - David Bloys/TX
2/11/2006 1:16:19 AM (3396 views)

I have read that requesting redaction of SS numbers is possible in Florida but I had not heard of this anywhere else. Governor Jeb Bush had his Social Security number and that of his wife redacted from a deed filed there. However this left the people who had bought Bush's home totally exposed as their social security numbers appeared there as well.

The problem is, John Q. Public doesn't realize his social security number (and worse) is being broadcast over the Internet let alone that he can have it redacted. Some enterprising abstractor could probably build a thriving business just by locating the offending documents and filing the necessary paperwork.

Of course, this will really do little to protect the citizens. A social security number, while  handy for some types of identy fraud isn't necessary in many, if not most, types of identity related fraud.

Not long ago, I found the bank acount and routing numbers to several prominent Fort Bend citizens displayed online by the County Clerk and her vendor partners. If I were a thief it would have been a simple matter to have "written" checks by phone or Internet until all the accounts were drained.

The rash of fraudulent deeds filed this summer did not require a social or anything except the knowledge of absentee ownership, an old authorized signature and a recent notary seal. All are readily available online in the affected counties.

The terrorists who were found with fifty driver's licences issued from five different states did not need a social. Just a driver's license number, name and DOB. They may have simply filed for a change of adress with the state and had the state deliver a shiny new DL to their "new" address.

The 100 judges in Alegheny County, PA who demanded the removal of their information be taken off the web site were not fearful of someone finding their SS # . It was their home addresses they wanted to protect in light of the recent murder of a Federal judge's mother and husband in her Chicago home.

When Liam Youens found Amy Boyer's Social Security number through a databroker he was ecstatic but didn't know how to use it. The information he needed was an address where she would be. The databroker delivered her work address where Youens met the 20 year old and fired several shots into her face and head before turning the gun on himself. Two weeks after her murder, identity thieves ran up several thousand dollars in debt in her name.
 
If, by some miracle, every social security number in every official public record were redacted tomorrow it would still leave thousands of copies available through the databrokers who have already, downloaded or bought them in bulk. Even if the databrokers in this country agreed to redact all their socials it would have little affect. The foreign databrokers and outsource companies would still have them available for sale along with even more sensitive and dangerous information the counties have recklessly provided.

The only answer is also the simplest. Stop the broacasting of county records outside the jurisdiction and stop exporting them outside the jurisdiction in bulk digital form. 

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Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/11/2006 9:38:48 AM (3547 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Jan Forster/NC
2/11/2006 1:29:43 PM (3395 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/11/2006 6:21:05 AM (3443 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Robert Breakell/CT
2/11/2006 8:57:27 AM (3442 views)

Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Donna Grady/NC
2/9/2006 11:14:33 PM (2501 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - David Bloys/TX
2/10/2006 12:20:21 AM (3658 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Scott Perry/PA
2/10/2006 7:57:29 AM (3592 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - David Bloys/TX
2/10/2006 10:07:03 AM (3507 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/10/2006 10:13:57 AM (3448 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/10/2006 10:19:32 AM (3570 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Robert Franco/OH
2/10/2006 10:19:38 AM (3506 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Slade Smith/OH
2/10/2006 7:44:32 PM (3447 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Donna Grady/NC
2/10/2006 11:47:58 PM (3472 views)

Invasion of Privacy - Donna Grady/NC
2/9/2006 9:57:49 PM (2309 views)
Re: Invasion of Privacy - Slade Smith/OH
2/10/2006 7:38:49 PM (3440 views)




Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - NA/FL
2/9/2006 6:10:41 PM (2700 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Scott Perry/PA
2/9/2006 7:18:47 PM (3779 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - NA/FL
2/10/2006 10:17:28 AM (3873 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/10/2006 10:21:33 AM (3713 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - L ROLAND/CA
2/10/2006 12:53:21 PM (3558 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/10/2006 1:04:52 PM (3482 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/12/2006 3:17:43 PM (3554 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Doug Hollowell/TX
2/14/2006 3:54:53 PM (3532 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/14/2006 9:07:51 PM (3440 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/15/2006 10:08:11 AM (3549 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Robert Franco/OH
2/15/2006 10:21:22 AM (3673 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/15/2006 10:53:11 AM (4980 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/15/2006 6:17:01 PM (3756 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - J Nisonger/CA
2/16/2006 4:43:16 AM (3740 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/16/2006 5:45:35 AM (3611 views)

Stewart Title of India - Ricky Farrow/FL
2/8/2006 6:54:38 PM (4190 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/9/2006 5:37:27 AM (3539 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/9/2006 9:40:43 AM (3533 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/9/2006 10:11:46 AM (3708 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - David Bloys/TX
2/9/2006 10:41:53 AM (3652 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/9/2006 10:47:10 AM (3541 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/9/2006 11:35:58 AM (3553 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2006 11:22:04 AM (3428 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Jan Forster/NC
2/9/2006 3:18:08 PM (3666 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - David Bloys/TX
2/9/2006 6:29:01 PM (3408 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/14/2006 10:56:42 AM (3516 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2006 11:24:32 AM (3500 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Norean/GA
2/9/2006 4:26:21 PM (3789 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/9/2006 4:46:34 PM (3385 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/9/2006 5:11:45 PM (3430 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Jan Forster/NC
2/9/2006 5:37:03 PM (3446 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - David Bloys/TX
2/9/2006 7:01:17 PM (4957 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - NA/FL
2/10/2006 12:17:17 PM (3513 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - David Bloys/TX
2/10/2006 7:54:39 PM (3484 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Helene/GA
2/23/2006 12:24:41 AM (3327 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/23/2006 8:30:44 AM (3346 views)

Error Rates - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/8/2006 3:16:43 PM (2455 views)
Re: Error Rates - George Booth/OH
2/8/2006 5:50:08 PM (4974 views)
Re: Error Rates - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/8/2006 6:38:55 PM (3452 views)
Re: Error Rates - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2006 11:42:41 AM (3461 views)
Re: Error Rates - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/9/2006 2:43:00 PM (3451 views)
Re: Error Rates - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2006 5:01:16 PM (3365 views)

Policy Writing - George Booth/OH
2/8/2006 11:54:01 AM (2382 views)
Re: Policy Writing - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/8/2006 12:42:32 PM (3478 views)
Re: Policy Writing - George Booth/OH
2/8/2006 1:18:30 PM (3357 views)
Re: Policy Writing - George Booth/OH
2/8/2006 1:43:43 PM (3422 views)
Re: Policy Writing - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/9/2006 9:56:18 AM (3342 views)
Re: Policy Writing - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2006 11:17:38 AM (3380 views)
Re: Policy Writing - George Booth/OH
2/9/2006 2:39:45 PM (3396 views)
Re: Policy Writing - Doug Hollowell/TX
2/14/2006 4:28:47 PM (3387 views)

Another judgement question - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/8/2006 10:53:11 AM (2468 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/8/2006 11:05:21 AM (3631 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/8/2006 3:11:43 PM (3342 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Smitty Strickland/SC
2/14/2006 6:59:11 PM (3455 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Kelli Gorman/TX
2/15/2006 2:23:21 PM (3376 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/15/2006 9:33:35 PM (3693 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Scott Perry/PA
2/16/2006 12:16:29 AM (3376 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/16/2006 8:29:49 AM (3375 views)

Just checking - Tammy Knight/MO
2/7/2006 10:30:25 PM (2063 views)

Outrageous Copy Costs - Danielle Nelson/WI
2/7/2006 1:06:16 PM (2520 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Matthew DeLand/NY
2/7/2006 1:31:37 PM (3709 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Danielle Nelson/WI
2/7/2006 1:49:42 PM (3786 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - FOR ON-LINE SEARCHES ONLY - Jay Duncan/MO
2/7/2006 2:25:22 PM (5300 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - FOR ON-LINE SEARCHES ONLY - David Bloys/TX
2/7/2006 2:56:37 PM (3600 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Patrick Scott/IL
2/7/2006 1:53:08 PM (3804 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Danielle Nelson/WI
2/7/2006 2:53:43 PM (3571 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/8/2006 10:55:57 AM (3490 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Danielle Nelson/WI
2/8/2006 2:22:36 PM (3578 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/8/2006 2:59:47 PM (3508 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/8/2006 5:38:56 AM (3499 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Robert Franco/OH
2/8/2006 10:29:48 AM (3563 views)

Jay - J Nisonger/CA
2/7/2006 3:34:54 AM (3535 views)
Re: Jay - Jay Duncan/MO
2/7/2006 9:04:39 AM (3648 views)
Re: Jay - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/7/2006 9:15:40 AM (3804 views)
Re: Jay - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/7/2006 9:16:49 AM (3567 views)
Re: Jay - J Nisonger/CA
2/7/2006 11:09:07 AM (3534 views)
Re: Jay - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/7/2006 11:24:44 AM (3585 views)
Re: Jay - Jay Duncan/MO
2/7/2006 2:02:55 PM (3589 views)
Re: Jay - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/7/2006 5:27:09 PM (3636 views)
Re: Jay - Jay Duncan/MO
2/7/2006 6:15:07 PM (3678 views)

Best Company of the Month! - J Nisonger/CA
2/6/2006 12:18:40 PM (1964 views)

CONGRATULATIONS, STEELERS!!! - Scott Perry/PA
2/5/2006 10:11:45 PM (2469 views)
Re: CONGRATULATIONS, STEELERS!!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/5/2006 11:38:23 PM (3443 views)
Re: CONGRATULATIONS, STEELERS!!! - Scott Perry/PA
2/6/2006 7:26:22 AM (3514 views)
Re: CONGRATULATIONS, STEELERS!!! - JENNIFER HOLZMAN/PA
2/7/2006 1:46:07 PM (3627 views)
IN HOPES OF SPRING - Deborah Manion/VA
2/7/2006 2:22:30 PM (3474 views)
Re: IN HOPES OF SPRING - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:38:16 PM (3290 views)
Re: IN HOPES OF SPRING - J Nisonger/CA
2/25/2006 10:47:21 PM (3502 views)
Re: IN HOPES OF SPRING - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 10:55:57 PM (3431 views)


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