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Beware of New Product Requests - Larry Crooks/OH
12/20/2005 11:29:31 AM (2546 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/20/2005 12:08:25 PM (3767 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Patrick Scott/IL
12/20/2005 12:49:13 PM (3825 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Robert Franco/OH
12/20/2005 2:06:10 PM (3782 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Larry Crooks/OH
12/20/2005 2:34:49 PM (3608 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Barbara Bennett/IN
12/20/2005 3:56:14 PM (3789 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Wanda Steudel/OH
12/20/2005 4:36:59 PM (3841 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Larry Crooks/OH
12/20/2005 4:57:04 PM (3734 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Wanda Steudel/OH
12/20/2005 5:14:09 PM (3699 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Patrick Scott/IL
12/21/2005 2:35:49 AM (3509 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Robert Franco/OH
12/21/2005 9:31:26 AM (3533 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Patrick Scott/IL
12/21/2005 10:29:36 AM (3553 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Deborah Manion/VA
12/21/2005 10:41:57 AM (3619 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Robert Franco/OH
12/21/2005 10:51:06 AM (3528 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/21/2005 10:59:04 AM (3584 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Patrick Scott/IL
12/21/2005 11:35:58 AM (3452 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Larry Crooks/OH
12/23/2005 2:51:36 PM (3504 views)

Just had to share! - Jay Duncan/MO
12/20/2005 8:42:47 AM (2475 views)
Re: Just had to share! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/20/2005 11:37:44 AM (3612 views)
Re: Just had to share! - Ellen Malloy/MO
12/20/2005 12:18:59 PM (3582 views)
Re: Just had to share! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/20/2005 1:49:39 PM (3716 views)
Re: Just had to share! - TITLE REPORTS PLUS RLE/MD
12/20/2005 3:22:21 PM (3587 views)
Re: Just had to share! - Kurt deVries/FL
12/20/2005 5:24:35 PM (3569 views)
Re: Just had to share! - Scott Perry/PA
12/20/2005 8:15:58 PM (3595 views)

Hey Kurt! - J Nisonger/CA
12/19/2005 9:33:30 PM (1880 views)

..unrecorded liens.... - Ellen Malloy/MO
12/19/2005 2:22:15 PM (2877 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Jay Duncan/MO
12/19/2005 2:49:46 PM (3806 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Ellen Malloy/MO
12/19/2005 2:56:42 PM (3871 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Jay Duncan/MO
12/19/2005 3:06:59 PM (3942 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/19/2005 3:43:50 PM (3841 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Ellen Malloy/MO
12/19/2005 4:18:48 PM (3635 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/19/2005 5:05:15 PM (3717 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Jay Duncan/MO
12/19/2005 6:24:59 PM (3823 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Robert Franco/OH
12/20/2005 10:11:41 AM (3645 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Ellen Malloy/MO
12/20/2005 12:15:08 PM (3947 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Wendi See/SC
12/20/2005 9:50:31 PM (3930 views)

Attention Signing Agents - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/18/2005 1:49:54 PM (3774 views)
Re: Attention Signing Agents - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/18/2005 4:43:25 PM (5703 views)
Re: Attention Signing Agents - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/19/2005 8:24:21 AM (3855 views)




NALTEA question - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 5:27:06 PM (2526 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Jay Duncan/MO
12/17/2005 11:37:17 AM (5735 views)
Re: NALTEA question - J Nisonger/CA
12/17/2005 3:12:44 PM (3718 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Jay Duncan/MO
12/19/2005 8:28:15 AM (3700 views)
Re: NALTEA question - J Nisonger/CA
12/23/2005 3:47:03 AM (3664 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Jay Duncan/MO
12/23/2005 10:38:33 AM (3678 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Robert Franco/OH
12/23/2005 11:07:57 AM (3542 views)

Home exchange - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 12:21:44 AM (2487 views)
Re: Home exchange - Kurt deVries/FL
12/16/2005 11:05:32 AM (3469 views)
Re: Home exchange - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 11:20:13 AM (3653 views)

Case in Point!! - Kurt deVries/FL
12/15/2005 10:00:03 AM (2655 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/15/2005 10:17:19 AM (3466 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/15/2005 8:25:06 PM (3265 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:44:24 PM (3182 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
2/25/2006 3:10:19 PM (2982 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/25/2006 4:47:30 PM (3018 views)
Age stereotyping - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2006 6:08:24 PM (3036 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
2/25/2006 10:41:45 PM (3040 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/15/2005 8:49:11 PM (5379 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2005 9:00:30 PM (3459 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/15/2005 9:28:17 PM (3108 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 12:17:23 AM (3175 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 12:44:05 AM (3074 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/16/2005 8:00:24 AM (3030 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Steve Schneider/IN
12/16/2005 9:11:34 AM (3045 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 11:34:52 AM (3143 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 12:17:49 PM (3107 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/16/2005 6:14:46 AM (3184 views)

J T

I am not sure why you are directing your response to me. I have not participated in this thread. As of late I have not been very active on SOT. However, now that you have brought me into the conversation, I will comment.
 
I have no problem with anyone running their business as they see fit. As far as low ball pricing is concerned, whether you can live with it or not depends largely on the region in which you operate. I am not sure how things are done in up state New York. In so far as southern New England is concerned, it is one of the most expensive areas of the country in which to live and operate a business. The problem is exacerbated by the political organization of Connecticut. We have no county government . All land records are recorded in the individual town halls...requiring much travel time on the road. Consequently, the price of gasoline is a major consideration in the pricing of your title search. If someone is charging $25 to $35.00 for a current owner search in this area, he has to be cutting corners somewhere else. What he gives up in the price of an individual search he needs make up in daily volume. In other words in order to cut his price by 50% he needs to double his daily output of work in order to break even. The town halls are open only 8 hours per day with a few exceptions. Some operate on a part time basis. It takes time to drive from one to another. How does one double his daily output of work without sacrificing quality? The time constraints alone do not allow it.

There is a particular business entity that has been critiqued on SOT because of its low pricing and difficult terms of service. I know of at least two searchers in this area that have thrown up their hands in disgust, and rejected further assignments because they could not prossibly provide the requested service at the low rate paid to them.

This was confirmed to me by one of the town clerks recently. She had observed a number of newbie searchers lately in the town of Wolcott, Ct. The town has recently installed a computer (not on line) to store its internal land records. She noticed the newbie searchers rushing in to perform their search on the computer without recourse to the written index, and rushing out the door to their next search. What the newbie searcher failed to consider is that the Town of Wolcott keeps its sewer liens in separate index not included in the computer index. The newbie searcher walked out the door to his next search without even considering the potential for encumbrances in the sewer lien index. The town of Wolcott, Ct is not alone. Because of the way Connecticut is organized, each town has its piculiarities with respect to the way each maintains its land records.

In so far as organizing abstractors into a union or forming their own abstracting/title company to preserve their interests...I have suggested these approaches at various times over the past 18 months. The suggestions met with mixed reviews either because of apathy or the financial inability of the individual searchers to come forward with the capital investment. Consequently, I do not see any remedy to the problem.
The issue will therefore only be rectified through the economic pressure to the market place. It will probably take several years before a determination is made as to whether the cut rate search, outsourced electronic search or the traditional brick and morter search is the most efficient.

In the case of my firm, we have never allowed abstracting to comprise an
unreasonably large portion of revenue. We are in the process of phasing out abstracting even further, and replacing the lost revenue with other more profitable areas of the real estate industry. We still maintain a limited list of abstracting clients who understand that quality costs a little more, and are willing to pay for the difference. We still accept new clients...but on our terms and at our prices.

As with all business in a free enterprise system the most efficient survives. The question is whether efficiency is determined by price or quality of service. If the searcher offering the $25 search can provide a quality product, he has won the game in the best American free enterprise tradition. He has invented the better mouse trap. Those that are unable to compete will need to find better ways to become competitive or find alternate lines of endeavor. Robert recently published an article in which he declared that this business is not longer profitable. He is right. If a searcher is limiting the services he markets to one service alone (abstracting) he is programmed for failure.

I really take offense at your posting. You have misstated my position in this matter.Do not ever condescendingly accuse me of viewing a free market system as an "infringement" on business or a "sour grapes" approach. I do see the death knell of the traditional abstractor approaching, and I have critized the V/M's, title companies and lenders for fostering an environment in which cheap price rather than quality of services was the preferred commodity. My counsel on this board has consistently been for its members to find better ways to compete... value added approach...form their own national/regional title companies...combine their abstracting with other services to lessen the impact of the low ball pricing.

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Re: Case in Point!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/16/2005 6:20:34 AM (3129 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/16/2005 2:47:16 PM (3194 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/16/2005 2:48:03 PM (3194 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/16/2005 3:48:10 PM (3240 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/16/2005 3:57:38 PM (3204 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:05:18 AM (3044 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:59:50 PM (2980 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:49:46 PM (2916 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 10:04:56 AM (3111 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/16/2005 10:31:04 AM (2980 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kurt deVries/FL
12/16/2005 11:03:18 AM (3017 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 11:14:43 AM (2941 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:06:02 PM (2947 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 11:17:23 AM (3020 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 11:27:18 AM (2970 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - David Bloys/TX
12/16/2005 12:29:43 PM (2958 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 12:39:46 PM (3078 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/16/2005 1:41:05 PM (3140 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Rachel Malone/PA
12/17/2005 10:31:49 AM (3073 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/17/2005 11:09:00 AM (2975 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Rachel Malone/PA
12/18/2005 6:17:32 PM (3145 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/17/2005 3:33:58 PM (3060 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Rachel Malone/PA
12/18/2005 6:19:48 PM (3085 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:09:32 PM (2905 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/16/2005 12:41:27 PM (3025 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 5:20:17 PM (2946 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/17/2005 1:06:07 AM (2850 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:02:19 PM (2732 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/18/2005 9:02:14 AM (2929 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:17:41 PM (2755 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:51:15 PM (2723 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:19:19 AM (2740 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:48:33 PM (2699 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/16/2005 1:10:58 PM (2868 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kurt deVries/FL
12/19/2005 11:18:50 AM (2906 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/19/2005 11:28:34 AM (2843 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kathleen Krol/PA
12/19/2005 5:40:25 PM (2831 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2006 12:11:07 PM (2623 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 1:07:48 PM (2719 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 1:18:52 PM (2717 views)

American Legal and Financial Network, First American, Old Republic... - Jay Duncan/MO
12/14/2005 4:25:35 PM (3156 views)

Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Kurt deVries/FL
12/13/2005 4:20:09 PM (2600 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Rachel Malone/PA
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Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Rachel Malone/PA
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Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Rachel Malone/PA
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Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Rachel Malone/PA
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Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Kurt deVries/FL
12/19/2005 11:21:31 AM (3354 views)

Shipping Costs - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Shipping Costs - Deborah Manion/VA
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Re: Shipping Costs - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: Shipping Costs - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
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Share a Holiday Recipe - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
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Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Cookies - J Nisonger/CA
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Stories - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Stories - monica froese/ME
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Re: Stories - Deborah Manion/VA
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Re: Stories - Kelli Gorman/TX
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Re: Stories - Ellen Malloy/MO
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Re: Stories - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 7:17:40 PM (3188 views)

Leave it Up to Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/7/2005 1:07:01 PM (2419 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Rachel Malone/PA
12/7/2005 9:58:10 PM (3386 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Tammy Knight/MO
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Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Rachel Malone/PA
12/8/2005 7:30:11 AM (3351 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2005 11:10:15 AM (3328 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Leave it Up to Texas - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Leave it Up to Texas - David Bloys/TX
12/9/2005 10:02:03 AM (3327 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - J Nisonger/CA
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