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Anyone heard of this company.... - Loretta Reed/MD
10/14/2005 1:16:42 PM (3647 views)
Re: Anyone heard of this company.... - Kurt deVries/FL
10/19/2005 12:12:30 PM (6682 views)

A word about prices... - Robert Franco/OH
10/13/2005 5:40:44 PM (4139 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Kurt deVries/FL
10/14/2005 9:39:16 AM (6283 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Robert Breakell/CT
10/14/2005 9:50:44 AM (6339 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Robert Franco/OH
10/14/2005 12:03:18 PM (6387 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Scott Perry/PA
10/14/2005 5:24:10 PM (6288 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Bo Hope/AR
10/16/2005 1:55:51 AM (6253 views)

Here's my rant - Loretta Reed/MD
10/13/2005 11:05:00 AM (3398 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Iris Buchman/FL
10/13/2005 4:50:59 PM (6347 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Kurt deVries/FL
10/14/2005 9:36:24 AM (6499 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Jay Duncan/MO
10/14/2005 1:44:49 PM (6319 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Matt Papsch/MD
10/13/2005 5:35:02 PM (6246 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Loretta Reed/MD
10/14/2005 11:47:19 AM (6450 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Robert Franco/OH
10/14/2005 12:12:08 PM (6272 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Wendi See/SC
10/15/2005 10:24:17 PM (6335 views)

Refaxing - Danielle Nelson/WI
10/12/2005 2:14:31 PM (3441 views)
Re: Refaxing - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/12/2005 3:00:22 PM (6093 views)
Re: Refaxing - Robert Franco/OH
10/12/2005 3:28:29 PM (9733 views)
Re: Refaxing - Larry Crooks/OH
10/13/2005 8:45:13 AM (6107 views)
Re: Refaxing - Danielle Nelson/WI
10/13/2005 11:38:05 AM (6901 views)
Re: Refaxing - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/14/2005 9:55:23 AM (6130 views)
Re: Refaxing - Kelly Chamblee/OH
10/13/2005 1:37:01 PM (6122 views)
Re: Refaxing - Robert Franco/OH
10/13/2005 2:38:26 PM (6229 views)
Re: Refaxing - Susan Matson/MN
10/17/2005 9:31:57 AM (6499 views)

Rant! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/12/2005 12:49:24 AM (3319 views)
Re: Rant! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/12/2005 2:02:22 PM (5936 views)
Re: Rant! - Robert Franco/OH
10/12/2005 3:11:23 PM (6016 views)

Excellent topic for discussion...  It is unfortunate that abstractors do not have an efficient course of action when clients fail to make payments.   There are several options, but they all have some level of difficulty or risk associated with them.

LEGAL ACTION - As Kevin Ahern has pointed out, the law provides for remedies in such cases.  However, the legal fees associated often make the use of the court system cost prohibitive.  Even if you win, you are still in a position of having to expend further efforts collecting on a judgment.

COLLECTION AGENCIES - This often is unsatisfying because even if the collection agency is successful, they are going to take a large portion of the amount collected.  Sometimes, collection agencies offer services with up-front fees that could be wasted if payment is not obtained.

RANSOM - Some abstractors have held work hostage for payment of delinquent accounts.  This can be risky.  In the case where the abstractor holds a filing, if an intervening lien is filed while the abstractor is holding the documents I would imagine that there would be some liability involved.  This also affects the borrower, or homeowner, and not just the client.  I never recommend holding filings - either file them or return them to the client immediately.  Holding new search orders is not as risky in this regard, as long as you let the client know that you are not completing the order until their account is paid, however, they are likely to cancel the order and place it elsewhere; which is ineffective in trying to collect a delinquent account.

PUBLIC POSTING OF NON-PAYMENT - This is what has been referred to in the previous post by Tammy.  It costs the abstractor nothing, and could hurt the non-paying client by making it difficult for them to find other abstractors willing to take the same risks.  It seems to have been effective, as we have seen on this forum.  However, one of these days it could spawn a lawsuit by the client for libel.  Source of Title has been threatened with lawsuits in the past for not removing these posts and I cringe every time I see one.  However, this is a public forum and Source of Title disclaims any liability for the content of the posts.  The forums are not censored and the person posting the information accepts full liability for the content.  Still, I do not encourage this type of posting. 

BLACK-LISTING - Creating lists of "dead-beat" clients has been suggested many times on this forum.  It would serve the purpose of letting other clients know what clients have a reputation of not paying their abstractors, however, there is no good way to verify the information.  We have all had clients that we have had good experiences with that others complain about, and vice versa.  Even more so than a single posting on the forum, this type of behavior could result in a lawsuit. I certainly would not be willing to participate in such a list.

Unfortunately, there is no good way to collect from a client that is just not willing to step-up and pay for the work they order.  Due to the nature of the business, abstractors are in a very weak bargaining position.  There are always going to be other abstractors willing to take on new business and accept the risk of not being paid.

Cut clients off early, before they owe too much.  Don't do any more work for them and consider it a learning experience.  If it is truly a large balance, it may be worth pursuing legal action.

I wish I had better advice... if anyone else does, please share it.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: Rant! - Scott Perry/PA
10/12/2005 6:03:33 PM (5851 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/12/2005 5:06:42 PM (5882 views)
Re: Rant! - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR
10/12/2005 8:21:41 PM (5887 views)
Re: Rant! - Scott Perry/PA
10/12/2005 10:02:17 PM (5855 views)
Re: Rant! - Robert Franco/OH
10/13/2005 12:26:35 AM (5936 views)
Re: Rant! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/13/2005 1:22:50 AM (5882 views)
Re: Rant! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/14/2005 10:02:18 AM (5925 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/14/2005 12:29:44 PM (5735 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/14/2005 12:48:29 PM (5848 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/13/2005 4:56:56 AM (5762 views)
Re: Rant! - Iris Buchman/FL
10/13/2005 4:44:01 PM (5821 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/14/2005 8:06:47 AM (5861 views)
Re: Rant! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/16/2005 10:08:48 PM (5895 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/17/2005 8:21:44 AM (6234 views)




Erevna? - Tammy Knight/MO
10/12/2005 12:28:49 AM (3441 views)
Re: Erevna? - Tammy Knight/MO
10/12/2005 12:29:48 AM (5762 views)
Re: Erevna? - Becky Kale/IL
10/17/2005 2:15:26 PM (6110 views)

United Document Services of East Northport - JENNIFER HOLZMAN/PA
10/11/2005 1:24:41 PM (3319 views)
Re: United Document Services of East Northport - Scott Perry/PA
10/11/2005 7:24:54 PM (5735 views)

Abstractor Educational Workshops!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/7/2005 8:06:03 AM (3892 views)

Are you going to vote? - Jay Duncan/MO
10/7/2005 8:03:07 AM (3020 views)
Re: Are you going to vote? - Robert Franco/OH
10/7/2005 3:44:19 PM (5660 views)

WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/6/2005 11:33:25 PM (3363 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Lou Legaspi/IL
10/7/2005 7:30:22 AM (5635 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/7/2005 7:39:40 AM (5510 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - monica froese/ME
10/7/2005 9:20:14 PM (5597 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Kelli Gorman/TX
10/10/2005 10:32:58 PM (5551 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - george Hubka/MI
10/7/2005 10:37:13 PM (5689 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Helene/GA
10/8/2005 12:36:52 AM (5485 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Anne Gilbert/VT
10/8/2005 7:29:57 AM (5619 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Kelli Gorman/TX
10/10/2005 10:34:58 PM (5622 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - David Jenkins/PA
10/9/2005 4:51:44 PM (5517 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/9/2005 6:41:11 PM (5534 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/10/2005 3:31:03 PM (5627 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/10/2005 9:01:36 PM (5446 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/10/2005 9:45:44 PM (5449 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - David Bloys/TX
10/10/2005 11:03:28 PM (5447 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/10/2005 11:15:25 PM (5367 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/10/2005 11:13:11 PM (5241 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/11/2005 10:57:24 AM (5386 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/11/2005 9:49:57 PM (5320 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/11/2005 11:14:15 PM (5261 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/12/2005 12:03:15 AM (5303 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/12/2005 9:01:09 AM (5275 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/12/2005 9:59:41 PM (5323 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/13/2005 9:39:27 AM (5205 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Robert Franco/OH
10/13/2005 10:43:45 AM (5098 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/13/2005 6:27:31 PM (5185 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/14/2005 9:10:26 PM (5171 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/14/2005 11:38:36 PM (5250 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/15/2005 2:17:00 PM (5264 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - george Hubka/MI
10/11/2005 9:09:22 PM (5559 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/11/2005 10:50:27 PM (5262 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Robert Franco/OH
10/11/2005 11:29:28 PM (5232 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/12/2005 8:46:58 AM (5225 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Robert Franco/OH
10/11/2005 1:20:16 PM (5397 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/12/2005 7:38:19 AM (5252 views)

ATA - Iris Buchman/FL
10/6/2005 1:17:26 AM (3307 views)
Re: ATA - Kurt deVries/FL
10/6/2005 11:21:11 AM (5536 views)
Re: ATA - Iris Buchman/FL
10/6/2005 4:09:20 PM (5574 views)
Re: ATA - Anne Gilbert/VT
10/7/2005 6:18:04 AM (5729 views)
Re: ATA - Iris Buchman/FL
10/7/2005 8:08:38 AM (5420 views)
Re: ATA - michelle foskey/GA
10/24/2005 2:05:34 PM (5534 views)

Be Clear with your Client - Wanda Steudel/OH
10/5/2005 5:13:39 PM (3097 views)
Re: Be Clear with your Client - David Bloys/TX
10/5/2005 5:36:10 PM (5340 views)
Re: Be Clear with your Client - Scott Perry/PA
10/5/2005 7:17:55 PM (5342 views)
Re: Be Clear with your Client - David Bloys/TX
10/5/2005 8:26:52 PM (6999 views)
Re: Be Clear with your Client - Scott Perry/PA
10/5/2005 10:30:11 PM (5407 views)
Re: Be Clear with your Client - Kurt deVries/FL
10/6/2005 11:25:11 AM (5358 views)
Re: Be Clear with your Client - Robert Franco/OH
10/6/2005 11:38:24 AM (5263 views)
Re: Be Clear with your Client - Wanda Steudel/OH
10/6/2005 1:02:20 PM (5349 views)
Re: Be Clear with your Client - Larry Crooks/OH
10/10/2005 5:01:33 PM (5292 views)

2005 Independent Examiner Report Weekend Interviews - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
10/4/2005 11:12:02 AM (2719 views)

PLAT MAPS? - Rebecca Barney/FL
10/4/2005 9:24:49 AM (3222 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - Julie Jasiunas/WI
10/4/2005 9:33:53 AM (5438 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - David Bloys/TX
10/4/2005 11:24:48 AM (5278 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - Rebecca Barney/FL
10/4/2005 11:32:32 AM (5246 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - Danielle Nelson/WI
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Re: PLAT MAPS? - george Hubka/MI
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Re: PLAT MAPS? - Helene/GA
10/4/2005 11:31:56 PM (5171 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/4/2005 11:46:46 PM (5184 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - Robert Franco/OH
10/5/2005 12:37:04 AM (5359 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - Helga Hinck/NH
10/5/2005 12:02:56 PM (5272 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - Robert Franco/OH
10/5/2005 12:08:45 PM (5413 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR
10/5/2005 3:25:11 PM (5231 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - Douglas Gallant/OH
10/5/2005 5:13:32 PM (5159 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - Matthew DeLand/NY
10/7/2005 9:46:53 AM (5453 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/14/2005 9:53:38 PM (5031 views)

Hello - Ricky Farrow/FL
10/3/2005 7:30:38 PM (2605 views)


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