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You are not going to believe this one! - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/16/2005 12:12:41 PM (2733 views)
Re: You are not going to believe this one! - David Chisolm/MS
3/16/2005 8:39:52 PM (3630 views)
Re: You are not going to believe this one! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/16/2005 9:51:09 PM (3605 views)
Re: You are not going to believe this one! - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/17/2005 11:07:57 AM (3587 views)
Re: You are not going to believe this one! - Helene/GA
3/17/2005 9:16:51 PM (3516 views)
Re: You are not going to believe this one! - Glenda Hodge/TN
3/17/2005 10:24:54 PM (3481 views)
Re: You are not going to believe this one! - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/18/2005 1:17:20 PM (3583 views)
Re: You are not going to believe this one! - David Bloys/TX
3/18/2005 9:11:18 PM (3497 views)
Re: You are not going to believe this one! - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/19/2005 12:14:25 PM (3534 views)

ANYONE KNOW WHERE THESE COMPANIES ARE???? - SARAH CIRAOLO/NY
3/16/2005 9:43:13 AM (2685 views)
Re: ANYONE KNOW WHERE THESE COMPANIES ARE???? - Jay Duncan
3/16/2005 9:48:51 AM (3764 views)
Re: ANYONE KNOW WHERE THESE COMPANIES ARE???? - SARAH CIRAOLO/NY
3/16/2005 6:57:14 PM (3466 views)
WELL WELL WELL .... PPA - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/16/2005 10:01:11 PM (3681 views)
Re: WELL WELL WELL .... PPA - Glenda Hodge/TN
3/17/2005 1:29:55 AM (3586 views)
Re: WELL WELL WELL .... PPA - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/17/2005 10:19:41 AM (3686 views)
Re: ANYONE KNOW WHERE THESE COMPANIES ARE???? - Barbara Bennett/IN
3/17/2005 2:41:30 PM (3685 views)
Re: ANYONE KNOW WHERE THESE COMPANIES ARE???? - Peggy Jacobson/ID
3/17/2005 6:14:59 PM (3633 views)
Re: ANYONE KNOW WHERE THESE COMPANIES ARE???? - SARAH CIRAOLO/NY
3/18/2005 11:15:10 AM (3549 views)
Re: ANYONE KNOW WHERE THESE COMPANIES ARE???? - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/19/2005 12:19:04 PM (3524 views)
Re: ANYONE KNOW WHERE THESE COMPANIES ARE???? - Barbara Bennett/IN
3/19/2005 1:16:43 PM (3573 views)
Re: ANYONE KNOW WHERE THESE COMPANIES ARE???? - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/19/2005 2:10:59 PM (3534 views)

Barbara,

You first should determine if they have filed for bankruptcy or closed their doors. If they have filed a petition for bankruptcy, all you can do is file a proof of claim with the bankruptcy court. As an unsecured creditor you will probably wind up with pennies on the dollar if you are lucky, and in most cases you will not get anything regardless of whether it is a reorganization or a liquidation...shades of the Bridgespan problem last year. If you try to sue them after they filed for bankruptcy, you may find yourself in contempt of the court's order for an automatic stay of proceedings.

In the future you may want to run a D & B on a new client before extending large amounts of credit to them. If they indicate that they would like more credit monthly, and you are not comfortable with the D & B results, you could ask them for security for the line of credit. You would have a financing agreement and a financing statement drafted, signed and properly recorded. This would make you a secured creditor in the event of a future bankruptcy.

If you were performing your services for corporations or LLC's and they have closed their doors, you can sue these business entitites. However, there will probably be little if anything left to satisfy the judgment if you win.This becomes harder to collect with the passage of time. You would very possibly spend more trying to collect than you would collect if you won the case.

There are other alternatives if the corporate officer/manager or the LLC's manager failed to observe the corporate/LLC formalities when they signed the contract. If someone has signed the agreement without disclosing the identity of the corporation or LLC or the representative capacity in which he signed (i.e. President,Secretary, Vice-president, Managing Member), he becomes personally liable to you for the work you did.

I just won a suit last month involving a contract in which the defendant failed to identify his LLC or his position as a managing member. He just signed his name, part of the LLC's name, and indicated that he was the owner.He now has to pay my client the judgment against which he thought the LLC protected him. His personal assets and home are subject to satisfaction of my client's claim. For reasons like this, I normally advise my clients to have a rubber stamp made up to disclose this information when entering a contract. In order to retain the protection of the corporate/LLC shield you need to both be properly filed and in good standing with the state. It also is criticle to make certain that you are disclosing both the complete identity of the company and that you are signing in your representative capacity when entering a contract.

There is also another alternative if someone co signed the contract in his personal capacity or as a guarantor he also becomes personally liable to you. However, this is a long shot unless you requested him to do so up front.

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Re: ANYONE KNOW WHERE THESE COMPANIES ARE???? - george Hubka/MI
3/21/2005 8:28:40 AM (3531 views)
Re: ANYONE KNOW WHERE THESE COMPANIES ARE???? - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/21/2005 12:15:23 PM (3532 views)
Re: ANYONE KNOW WHERE THESE COMPANIES ARE???? - Barbara Bennett/IN
3/21/2005 3:03:59 PM (3479 views)
Re: ANYONE KNOW WHERE THESE COMPANIES ARE???? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/21/2005 6:04:11 PM (3537 views)

EXCUSE ME PLEASE - SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/15/2005 10:05:56 PM (2568 views)
Re: EXCUSE ME PLEASE - SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE! - David Bloys/TX
3/15/2005 10:30:58 PM (3491 views)
Re: EXCUSE ME PLEASE - SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
3/16/2005 9:10:14 AM (3438 views)
Re: EXCUSE ME PLEASE - SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE! - David Bloys/TX
3/16/2005 9:55:09 AM (3400 views)
Re: EXCUSE ME PLEASE - SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
3/17/2005 11:42:28 AM (3381 views)
Re: EXCUSE ME PLEASE - SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/15/2005 11:56:57 PM (3396 views)
Re: EXCUSE ME PLEASE - SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE! - David Bloys/TX
3/16/2005 7:23:08 AM (3395 views)

Absolute Prop. Services Info ?? - george Hubka
3/15/2005 7:25:26 PM (2654 views)
Re: Absolute Prop. Services Info ?? - Russ Frye/GA
3/15/2005 8:03:48 PM (3614 views)
Re: Absolute Prop. Services Info ?? - george Hubka
3/15/2005 8:39:14 PM (3441 views)
Re: Absolute Prop. Services Info ?? - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/15/2005 10:04:27 PM (3408 views)
Re: Absolute Prop. Services Info ?? - Russ Frye/GA
3/16/2005 5:46:21 PM (3367 views)
Re: Absolute Prop. Services Info ?? - Edward Mastrianni/CT
3/16/2005 7:01:45 PM (3439 views)
Re: Absolute Prop. Services Info ?? - Robb Grandon/OH
3/17/2005 1:18:26 PM (3420 views)
Re: Absolute Prop. Services Info ?? - martha campbell/VA
3/21/2005 7:22:11 AM (3544 views)
Re: Absolute Prop. Services Info ?? - george Hubka/MI
3/21/2005 7:54:54 AM (3353 views)
Re: Absolute Prop. Services Info ?? - Barbara Lambert/NY
3/21/2005 8:13:42 AM (3513 views)
Re: Absolute Prop. Services Info ?? - george Hubka/MI
3/21/2005 8:24:10 AM (3345 views)

May I Suggest....?...? - Robb Grandon/OH
3/14/2005 11:43:15 PM (2359 views)
Re: May I Suggest....?...? - Michaela Urban/OH
3/15/2005 1:23:56 PM (3375 views)
Re: May I Suggest....?...? - Robb Grandon/OH
3/15/2005 1:45:28 PM (3313 views)
Re: May I Suggest....?...? - Bernie O'Hare/PA
3/15/2005 9:35:13 PM (3248 views)




HOME CONNECTS??? - monica froese/ME
3/14/2005 9:31:48 PM (2694 views)
Re: HOME CONNECTS??? - Wanda Steudel/OH
3/15/2005 10:09:01 AM (3575 views)
Re: HOME CONNECTS??? - Barbara Bennett/IN
3/15/2005 1:42:35 PM (3447 views)
Re: HOME CONNECTS??? - george Hubka/MI
3/15/2005 7:07:47 PM (3311 views)
Re: HOME CONNECTS??? - Anne Gilbert/VT
3/19/2005 9:53:35 AM (3522 views)
Re: HOME CONNECTS??? - george Hubka/MI
3/21/2005 8:02:27 AM (3332 views)

Title Direct out of MN - Rachel Homer/OR
3/14/2005 6:59:43 PM (2533 views)
Re: Title Direct out of MN - James "Lin" Toney/MS
3/14/2005 8:36:28 PM (3422 views)
Re: Title Direct out of MN - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/14/2005 11:38:17 PM (3293 views)
Re: Title Direct out of MN - RICHARD SOUDER/TN
3/21/2005 9:39:47 AM (3302 views)

ATM Corporation out of Coraopolis, PA - Douglas Johnson/MN
3/14/2005 4:49:40 PM (2536 views)
Re: ATM Corporation out of Coraopolis, PA - Spencer Kinsey/AR
3/14/2005 5:12:38 PM (3562 views)
Re: ATM Corporation out of Coraopolis, PA - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/14/2005 5:31:10 PM (3482 views)
Re: ATM Corporation out of Coraopolis, PA - Patricia Shaw/MD
3/15/2005 2:48:24 PM (3422 views)
Re: ATM Corporation out of Coraopolis, PA - David Bloys/TX
3/15/2005 5:33:23 PM (3357 views)
Re: ATM Corporation out of Coraopolis, PA - Douglas Johnson/MN
3/15/2005 7:18:40 PM (3415 views)
Re: ATM Corporation out of Coraopolis, PA - Loretta Reed/MD
3/16/2005 1:12:32 AM (3537 views)
Re: ATM Corporation out of Coraopolis, PA - Loretta Reed/MD
3/16/2005 1:12:59 AM (3243 views)
Re: ATM Corporation out of Coraopolis, PA - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/16/2005 10:18:50 AM (3520 views)
Re: ATM Corporation out of Coraopolis, PA - Loretta Reed/MD
3/16/2005 12:27:18 PM (3430 views)

Texas folks - Spencer Kinsey/AR
3/14/2005 11:46:55 AM (1757 views)

email replacing faxes? - Donna Grady/NC
3/12/2005 9:07:44 PM (2428 views)
Re: email replacing faxes? - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/12/2005 9:54:28 PM (3529 views)
Re: email replacing faxes? - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/13/2005 11:36:55 AM (3367 views)
Re: email replacing faxes? - Donna Grady/NC
3/13/2005 10:02:21 PM (3452 views)
Re: email replacing faxes? - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/13/2005 10:05:36 PM (3295 views)
Re: email replacing faxes? - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/14/2005 2:56:06 PM (3495 views)
Re: email replacing faxes? - Michaela Urban/OH
3/13/2005 1:54:44 PM (3387 views)
Re: email replacing faxes? - Ellen Malloy/MO
3/14/2005 11:16:44 AM (3429 views)
Re: email replacing faxes? - Daphne Gray/CA
3/19/2005 11:32:27 AM (3305 views)
Re: email replacing faxes? - Liza Jackson/CO
3/21/2005 11:31:44 AM (3387 views)

Need feedback - PLEASE!! - Michaela Urban/OH
3/12/2005 3:43:39 PM (2440 views)
Re: Need feedback - PLEASE!! - Norean Cashwell/GA
3/12/2005 6:59:31 PM (3454 views)
Re: Need feedback - PLEASE!! - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/12/2005 9:57:29 PM (3514 views)
Re: Need feedback - PLEASE!! - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/13/2005 11:33:36 AM (3525 views)
Re: Need feedback - PLEASE!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
3/13/2005 11:57:11 AM (3321 views)
Re: Need feedback - PLEASE!! - Helene/GA
3/14/2005 9:52:51 PM (3522 views)
Re: Need feedback - PLEASE!! - Glenda Hodge/TN
3/13/2005 2:33:09 PM (3416 views)
Re: Reply to Glenda - Michaela Urban/OH
3/13/2005 7:14:47 PM (3421 views)
Re: Need feedback - PLEASE!! - Robb Grandon/OH
3/15/2005 7:59:31 AM (3460 views)
Re: Need feedback - PLEASE!! - Wanda Steudel/OH
3/15/2005 9:57:26 AM (3242 views)

TitleWeek Debut... - Robert Franco/OH
3/11/2005 7:26:48 PM (2277 views)
Re: TitleWeek Debut... - Wanda Steudel/OH
3/13/2005 9:59:53 AM (3299 views)
Re: TitleWeek Debut... - Robert Franco/OH
3/13/2005 3:15:14 PM (3319 views)

Anyone out there from bayou territory - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/11/2005 6:15:24 PM (2276 views)
Re: Anyone out there from bayou territory - David Chisolm/MS
3/11/2005 8:31:30 PM (3552 views)
Re: Anyone out there from bayou territory - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/12/2005 5:41:35 AM (3376 views)
Re: Anyone out there from bayou territory - Robb Grandon/OH
3/12/2005 1:58:45 PM (3361 views)
Re: Anyone out there from bayou territory - David Chisolm/MS
3/12/2005 11:18:47 PM (3370 views)
Re: Anyone out there from bayou territory - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/13/2005 11:44:23 AM (3299 views)
Re: Anyone out there from bayou territory - Douglas Gallant/OH
3/13/2005 5:22:02 PM (3276 views)
Re: Anyone out there from bayou territory - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/13/2005 5:31:08 PM (3326 views)
Re: Anyone out there from bayou territory - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/13/2005 6:57:25 PM (3255 views)
Re: Anyone out there from bayou territory - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/16/2005 10:05:44 PM (3417 views)

Shellington Title Service - martha campbell
3/11/2005 5:41:08 PM (1811 views)

York County Vermont? - Anne Gilbert/VT
3/10/2005 7:57:56 AM (2362 views)
Re: York County Vermont? - Slade Smith/OH
3/10/2005 2:22:00 PM (3370 views)


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