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We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2005 9:26:15 PM (2370 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 12:25:02 PM (3534 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 12:35:42 PM (3444 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 1:08:49 PM (3404 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - PatriciaPalmer/PA
2/26/2005 2:55:48 PM (3414 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 6:05:50 PM (3390 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:31:53 PM (3511 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/27/2005 6:04:32 PM (3360 views)

need some opinions... - Amanda Fuller/TX
2/25/2005 11:37:47 AM (2499 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/25/2005 11:52:31 AM (3524 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jay Duncan/MO
2/25/2005 11:55:50 AM (3459 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/26/2005 11:28:44 PM (3397 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 10:44:04 AM (3320 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/25/2005 4:50:12 PM (3477 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/25/2005 5:18:03 PM (3391 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 4:39:40 PM (3397 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/28/2005 4:56:29 PM (3424 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 10:28:14 AM (3357 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:33:37 PM (3476 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
3/1/2005 3:13:09 PM (3301 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 5:38:43 PM (3310 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 2:54:09 PM (3355 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 11:24:54 AM (3230 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Ms. A/MO
3/1/2005 12:15:16 PM (3275 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:36:34 PM (3324 views)

ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Slade Smith/OH
2/25/2005 5:22:20 AM (3187 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Robert Breakell/CT
2/25/2005 7:57:34 AM (3252 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Slade Smith/OH
2/25/2005 9:14:58 AM (3213 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2005 8:26:05 AM (3228 views)

Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Susie/OH
2/24/2005 7:14:12 PM (2353 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 10:32:17 AM (3384 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 4:15:06 PM (3269 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Samson Ugorji/MD
2/28/2005 11:53:36 PM (3272 views)

How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/24/2005 1:16:03 PM (2493 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 1:33:15 PM (3383 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Jay Duncan
2/24/2005 6:25:42 PM (3461 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Robert Breakell/CT
2/24/2005 7:40:56 PM (3335 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 6:20:10 AM (3345 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/24/2005 10:01:52 PM (3283 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/24/2005 10:57:34 PM (3314 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/25/2005 3:42:47 PM (3264 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/25/2005 8:09:54 PM (3315 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 6:03:13 PM (3294 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 7:23:47 PM (3216 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 8:35:47 PM (3212 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 9:11:44 PM (3317 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 9:22:34 PM (3220 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 9:12:57 PM (3192 views)




I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 11:26:53 AM (2412 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 8:33:25 PM (3357 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2005 10:30:50 PM (3307 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 11:53:23 PM (3174 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/25/2005 12:19:59 AM (3224 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 6:12:14 AM (3203 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 7:55:35 AM (3277 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 8:03:23 AM (3105 views)

My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/23/2005 10:40:59 PM (2520 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/23/2005 11:24:37 PM (3279 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/24/2005 12:12:22 AM (3328 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/24/2005 7:51:43 AM (3479 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2005 9:46:59 AM (3380 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/24/2005 9:56:34 AM (3352 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 1:20:14 PM (3270 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jay Duncan
2/25/2005 1:23:59 PM (3372 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 4:01:55 PM (3399 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 5:15:07 PM (3367 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 5:24:49 PM (3210 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Robert Franco/OH
2/25/2005 6:02:40 PM (3425 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Helene/GA
2/26/2005 12:10:59 AM (3385 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/25/2005 6:20:41 PM (3326 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/25/2005 6:52:40 PM (3253 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/25/2005 9:44:56 PM (3333 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/26/2005 8:57:45 AM (3580 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 10:21:54 AM (3344 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 11:59:39 AM (3489 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 1:10:31 PM (3312 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 1:19:42 PM (3221 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/27/2005 5:58:14 PM (3187 views)

Arkansas Abstractors - Marty Munson/MI
2/23/2005 9:59:55 PM (2437 views)
Re: Arkansas Abstractors - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/24/2005 8:59:28 PM (3086 views)

Out of pocket and need some help... - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/23/2005 11:52:06 AM (2299 views)
Nevermind!! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/23/2005 12:05:00 PM (3180 views)

Ohio County Addresses Bulk Release of Public Records - Robert Franco/OH
2/23/2005 10:42:08 AM (2424 views)
Re: Ohio County Addresses Bulk Release of Public Records - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/23/2005 7:07:26 PM (3296 views)

Radio Coverage of online "public" records - David Bloys/TX
2/22/2005 7:42:24 PM (3065 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/22/2005 9:39:56 PM (3525 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - David Bloys/TX
2/23/2005 12:12:46 AM (3509 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - James Guill/VA
2/24/2005 5:57:07 AM (3306 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - James Guill/VA
2/24/2005 6:04:30 AM (3339 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - James Guill/VA
2/24/2005 6:11:17 AM (3317 views)

SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - ROY PISTEY/PA
2/22/2005 4:14:19 PM (2357 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 4:24:52 PM (3282 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/22/2005 6:19:50 PM (3461 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/22/2005 6:56:34 PM (3401 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 7:03:49 PM (3416 views)

Subscriptions... - Robert Franco/OH
2/21/2005 4:56:19 PM (2284 views)
Re: Subscriptions...another suggestion - Loretta Reed/MD
2/21/2005 5:18:44 PM (3375 views)
Re: Subscriptions...another suggestion - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 11:55:17 AM (3307 views)
Re: Subscriptions...another suggestion - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/22/2005 1:48:50 PM (3317 views)
PS - I Just Checked Something - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/22/2005 1:52:52 PM (3233 views)
Re: Subscriptions...another suggestion - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 2:11:49 PM (3255 views)

Toner refill kits..... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/21/2005 1:01:27 PM (2976 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Amanda Fuller/TX
2/21/2005 1:39:05 PM (3452 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/21/2005 4:11:19 PM (3314 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/21/2005 4:12:14 PM (3294 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Amanda Fuller/TX
2/21/2005 4:29:17 PM (3280 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/21/2005 5:33:40 PM (3482 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Alan Hirsch/NY
2/21/2005 11:12:03 PM (4318 views)

Are Arizona/Nevada Online? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/21/2005 11:38:55 AM (2368 views)
Re: Are Arizona/Nevada Online? - David Bloys/TX
2/21/2005 1:03:45 PM (3310 views)
Re: Are Arizona/Nevada Online? - Robert Franco/OH
2/21/2005 2:28:50 PM (3251 views)
Re: Are Arizona/Nevada Online? - David Bloys/TX
2/21/2005 7:52:32 PM (3231 views)

I understand your problem with the many types of companies listed here. I hadn't thought of this.

It isn't that difficult to tell the difference between county records online and thin plants. . If they cannot provide you with a certified copy, they are not an official public record. Their terms of service pages and disclaimers make this very clear. Even the sites that give the appearance of being official are not. They are maintained and controlled by outside contractors. These companies own the images and the county has no control over their accuracy or completeness.

Some of these companies hide this fact from the counties when they sell them the contracts to image the documents. Then they hide it again when the images go online. In some cases it can be very difficult to discover who actually controls the images until you look at the copyrite notices. I haven't found one yet where the county controlled the documents, the data, or the metadata. Neither have I found a single instance where the county or the company will accept responsibilty for the accuracy or completeness of the online records.

In other words, by their disclaimers, Terms of Service Agreements, and copyrite notices there are no online sites that are offering the actual courthouse records.

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