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We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2005 9:26:15 PM (2370 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 12:25:02 PM (3534 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 12:35:42 PM (3445 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 1:08:49 PM (3405 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - PatriciaPalmer/PA
2/26/2005 2:55:48 PM (3415 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 6:05:50 PM (3390 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:31:53 PM (3511 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/27/2005 6:04:32 PM (3360 views)

need some opinions... - Amanda Fuller/TX
2/25/2005 11:37:47 AM (2499 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/25/2005 11:52:31 AM (3525 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jay Duncan/MO
2/25/2005 11:55:50 AM (3459 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/26/2005 11:28:44 PM (3398 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 10:44:04 AM (3320 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/25/2005 4:50:12 PM (3477 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/25/2005 5:18:03 PM (3392 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 4:39:40 PM (3397 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/28/2005 4:56:29 PM (3425 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 10:28:14 AM (3357 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:33:37 PM (3477 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
3/1/2005 3:13:09 PM (3301 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 5:38:43 PM (3311 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 2:54:09 PM (3355 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 11:24:54 AM (3231 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Ms. A/MO
3/1/2005 12:15:16 PM (3275 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:36:34 PM (3325 views)

ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Slade Smith/OH
2/25/2005 5:22:20 AM (3187 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Robert Breakell/CT
2/25/2005 7:57:34 AM (3253 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Slade Smith/OH
2/25/2005 9:14:58 AM (3214 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2005 8:26:05 AM (3228 views)

Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Susie/OH
2/24/2005 7:14:12 PM (2353 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 10:32:17 AM (3384 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 4:15:06 PM (3269 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Samson Ugorji/MD
2/28/2005 11:53:36 PM (3272 views)

How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/24/2005 1:16:03 PM (2493 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 1:33:15 PM (3384 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Jay Duncan
2/24/2005 6:25:42 PM (3462 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Robert Breakell/CT
2/24/2005 7:40:56 PM (3335 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 6:20:10 AM (3345 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/24/2005 10:01:52 PM (3283 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/24/2005 10:57:34 PM (3315 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/25/2005 3:42:47 PM (3264 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/25/2005 8:09:54 PM (3315 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 6:03:13 PM (3294 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 7:23:47 PM (3217 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 8:35:47 PM (3212 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 9:11:44 PM (3318 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 9:22:34 PM (3220 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 9:12:57 PM (3193 views)




I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 11:26:53 AM (2412 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 8:33:25 PM (3358 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2005 10:30:50 PM (3307 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 11:53:23 PM (3175 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/25/2005 12:19:59 AM (3225 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 6:12:14 AM (3204 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 7:55:35 AM (3277 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 8:03:23 AM (3105 views)

My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/23/2005 10:40:59 PM (2520 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/23/2005 11:24:37 PM (3279 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/24/2005 12:12:22 AM (3328 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/24/2005 7:51:43 AM (3479 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2005 9:46:59 AM (3381 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/24/2005 9:56:34 AM (3353 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 1:20:14 PM (3270 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jay Duncan
2/25/2005 1:23:59 PM (3372 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 4:01:55 PM (3399 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 5:15:07 PM (3367 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 5:24:49 PM (3211 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Robert Franco/OH
2/25/2005 6:02:40 PM (3426 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Helene/GA
2/26/2005 12:10:59 AM (3385 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/25/2005 6:20:41 PM (3326 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/25/2005 6:52:40 PM (3254 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/25/2005 9:44:56 PM (3334 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/26/2005 8:57:45 AM (3581 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 10:21:54 AM (3345 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 11:59:39 AM (3489 views)


"Unlike other states, time is a marketable commodity in Connecticut because we have no unified county seats in which to search titles. we lose a lot of time on the road traveling between town halls. If the client is going to require additional and unnecessary work, they should be prepared to pay for it. I don't think that is a concept that is too difficult to understand."

This was the point that I was grasping at, not the idea that this is a job that can be done from home or anything else that would marginalize this job/profession.

The point that I am making is that whether you are self-employed, or you are running an abstracting service, there are costs that you incur no matter what - these are the costs that exist simply to do your job. You write these costs off at the end of the year (an if you aren't get a new accountant). While it is money that you had to spend, at the least it is not taxed, and it is money spent in order to make considerably more money.

The REAL commodity is in fact time when it comes to abstracts.

It takes time to learn your job, and gain a level of expertise.

It takes time to travel to various counties (which by the way, the idea that there is not a central place to get information in Ct. counties totally stinks, and justifies the additional cost even moreso when you have to research something you did right the first time - hats off to that business approach).

It takes time to prepare the abstract.

Depending on how you send the information back to an agency, it may take even more time to scan the information over to the client.

Again, I have been on BOTH sides of the fence, so I am not trying to be callous in any way. When you remove the cost of the preparation of the abstract (supplies and travel) the actual cost of the document is $10-$15. The remainder of the money made on that search is paid for YOUR TIME and the knowledge you built over TIME.

Now, I have no idea what the pay structure is in other states, or even outside of Southern NY. From what I have seen though, the people in the business are doing well for themselves. My frame of reference is this, so I apologize if what I have said comes off as rude. I just think that if this is a stie for abstractors and professionals in the title industry, it is worthwhile to be honest and on the same page with one another. When I see guys in their mid- to late-twenties driving around in BMWs and Lexus vehicles, I find it hard to talk about profit margins in a negative sense. And again, this may be wholly different elsewhere, but I can't imagine it being that different.

And considering the health - financially - of these abstractors, it is why I maintain that abstractors have to be more agreeable on the phone when dealing with their clients. I think charging for reexamination of something that has been already provided is the perfect response to be sure that the client is not going to call for mundane issues.

But, I am sure there are those that will disagree, and thankfully this is America so we can continue to discuss things that we don't see eye to eye on...

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Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 1:10:31 PM (3312 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 1:19:42 PM (3221 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/27/2005 5:58:14 PM (3187 views)

Arkansas Abstractors - Marty Munson/MI
2/23/2005 9:59:55 PM (2437 views)
Re: Arkansas Abstractors - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/24/2005 8:59:28 PM (3087 views)

Out of pocket and need some help... - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/23/2005 11:52:06 AM (2299 views)
Nevermind!! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/23/2005 12:05:00 PM (3180 views)

Ohio County Addresses Bulk Release of Public Records - Robert Franco/OH
2/23/2005 10:42:08 AM (2424 views)
Re: Ohio County Addresses Bulk Release of Public Records - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/23/2005 7:07:26 PM (3296 views)

Radio Coverage of online "public" records - David Bloys/TX
2/22/2005 7:42:24 PM (3065 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/22/2005 9:39:56 PM (3525 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - David Bloys/TX
2/23/2005 12:12:46 AM (3509 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - James Guill/VA
2/24/2005 5:57:07 AM (3306 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - James Guill/VA
2/24/2005 6:04:30 AM (3339 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - James Guill/VA
2/24/2005 6:11:17 AM (3318 views)

SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - ROY PISTEY/PA
2/22/2005 4:14:19 PM (2357 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 4:24:52 PM (3283 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/22/2005 6:19:50 PM (3461 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/22/2005 6:56:34 PM (3401 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 7:03:49 PM (3416 views)

Subscriptions... - Robert Franco/OH
2/21/2005 4:56:19 PM (2284 views)
Re: Subscriptions...another suggestion - Loretta Reed/MD
2/21/2005 5:18:44 PM (3376 views)
Re: Subscriptions...another suggestion - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 11:55:17 AM (3308 views)
Re: Subscriptions...another suggestion - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/22/2005 1:48:50 PM (3317 views)
PS - I Just Checked Something - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/22/2005 1:52:52 PM (3233 views)
Re: Subscriptions...another suggestion - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 2:11:49 PM (3256 views)

Toner refill kits..... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/21/2005 1:01:27 PM (2976 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Amanda Fuller/TX
2/21/2005 1:39:05 PM (3452 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/21/2005 4:11:19 PM (3314 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/21/2005 4:12:14 PM (3294 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Amanda Fuller/TX
2/21/2005 4:29:17 PM (3280 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/21/2005 5:33:40 PM (3482 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Alan Hirsch/NY
2/21/2005 11:12:03 PM (4318 views)

Are Arizona/Nevada Online? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/21/2005 11:38:55 AM (2368 views)
Re: Are Arizona/Nevada Online? - David Bloys/TX
2/21/2005 1:03:45 PM (3310 views)
Re: Are Arizona/Nevada Online? - Robert Franco/OH
2/21/2005 2:28:50 PM (3252 views)
Re: Are Arizona/Nevada Online? - David Bloys/TX
2/21/2005 7:52:32 PM (3232 views)


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