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All in the name of growth! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 10:29:26 AM (2421 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Amy Holder/NJ
2/28/2005 10:38:28 AM (3587 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 10:52:20 AM (3647 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/28/2005 1:49:40 PM (3649 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 4:49:40 PM (3454 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 7:24:11 PM (3531 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 9:17:12 PM (3554 views)

Thanks for everyone's help with my question about Abstracting Software. - KIM HAASE/MT
2/27/2005 11:48:40 PM (1787 views)

Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 2:36:11 PM (2391 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 2:50:51 PM (3717 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 7:23:33 PM (3707 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 7:25:37 PM (5919 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:20:00 PM (3635 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 3:07:54 PM (4702 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 3:21:23 PM (3746 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - David Bloys/TX
2/27/2005 6:48:41 PM (3827 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 7:35:27 PM (3617 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 9:15:25 PM (3676 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 9:00:44 AM (3736 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 9:17:00 AM (4701 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 2:31:42 PM (3714 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 6:54:04 PM (3656 views)

I was thinking...this may be cool - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:42:05 AM (2455 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 10:38:29 AM (3647 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 3:09:57 PM (4604 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 3:17:50 PM (3489 views)

Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 1:50:10 PM (2394 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 2:27:44 PM (3726 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 5:08:17 PM (3679 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 5:11:24 PM (3653 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 5:35:28 PM (3625 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 5:38:56 PM (3576 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:12:22 PM (3686 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:16:30 PM (3700 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 7:25:05 PM (3619 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/27/2005 10:33:25 PM (3708 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Cathy Iffergan/TX
2/28/2005 12:46:48 PM (3639 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Michelle Elko/TX
10/28/2009 12:43:01 AM (3359 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Doug Hollowell/TX
3/4/2005 8:24:07 PM (3610 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/5/2005 12:38:21 AM (3528 views)




Bank of America....Shame on you - Loretta Reed/MD
2/26/2005 10:22:34 AM (2491 views)
Re: Bank of America....Shame on you - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 10:24:37 AM (3600 views)
Re: Bank of America....Shame on you - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 5:01:18 PM (3612 views)

More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/26/2005 8:37:47 AM (2797 views)
Re: More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 1:00:44 PM (3712 views)
Re: More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/26/2005 1:48:52 PM (3721 views)
Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/26/2005 9:17:22 PM (3524 views)

Thanks for your response and words of encouragement..

I want to be clear though…..I’m not basing my decision to leave the business based on the results of my mailings.

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Next series of mailings is going to be the opposite offer.That means that the ones that got the low ball offer will now get the other offer and vice versa.

  

This decision has been evolving over the past year.

 

Let me tell the story as briefly as I can because I want to be clear on how & why I came to this decision. Who knows?...Maybe someone will see something I don’t and give an objective viewpoint…

 

I’ve been in the biz for 18 years now, 14 of those as an independent.

 

I started out with one client…my previous employer

5 years later I had something like 17 clients…..all local title companies.

 

I built up my customer base SOLELY on referrals and I had a very nice deal going.

 

Over the years, through mergers, going out of business, and me giving up a few smaller accounts, my client base has gone down to 7 clients.

 

I ‘v raised my prices every few years, so the price increases offset the attrition…..fine by me. It’s the way I wanted to structure my business..a “lifestyle “choice if you will.

 

Sounds pretty damn good……..

 

Until last year….

 

4 of my 7 accounts have informed me that once this company  DataTrace gets their plant up & running, I’m history…done…needed no more.

 

DataTrace is not marketing on price..they charge very well.

They are getting a huge share because of the technology they are bringing to the business HERE IN NJ.

 

They have already put a real hurtin on a lot of searchers

Me included……….they’ve taken 3 survey clients and 1 title client……to the tune of about 12-15 thousand a year in lost business to me.

 

Once my other accounts switch………..I’m done because they are my biggest clients..

 

The other threat, or maybe I should say hindrance ARE OTHER ABSTRACTORS…..maybe not in your area…..but it is VERY REAL here.

 

SO I found myself between this MegaConglomerate who are driving me out with technology, and these abstractors who are charging such low fees that it basically has reduced the searcher to a low wage  “commoditized” service.

 

I did my mailing as test to see if I would even want to stay and compete.

 

So the way I see it is….if I want to stay in business, I have to lower my fees, expand the coverage area, spread myself thin and burn myself out….not gonna do it.

 

I really do not see a future that is fulfilling here any longer. I like the work, but not the conditions under which I will have to perform the work

 

 

David, getting back to the mailing, I went after title companies first because that ‘s where the money is , out here at least.

 

The financial instituitions utilize the services of what we call “credit checkers” and they do these record owners for anywhere between $8 -$15 each. (they still hand abstract these things)

 

I’m exploring another angle to market my knowledge as an abstractor, but not in an abstractors role.(can’t divulge yet).

But it does have to do with the real estate investor community.

 

Once I test it and feel it’s a viable income source…I will let all of you know so that you may incorporate it into your business.

 

I am more than willing to answer any marketing questions that anyone may have.

 

BUT..I want to be clear to everyone….I will eventually be running an advertising/promotional consulting business , so I will eventually be charging for “stuff”……BUT…in the meantime I am at all of your service.

 

 

Thanks for staying with me here

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Amy Holder/NJ
2/27/2005 12:12:49 AM (3516 views)
Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 10:04:57 AM (3559 views)
Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Donna Grady/NC
2/27/2005 1:30:34 PM (3740 views)
MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 2:37:30 PM (3588 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 5:20:58 PM (3577 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 6:20:00 PM (3475 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Donna Grady/NC
2/27/2005 7:58:51 PM (3695 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 8:04:02 PM (3478 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/27/2005 8:14:53 PM (3428 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:15:56 PM (3495 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Amy Holder/NJ
2/27/2005 10:46:56 PM (3578 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 10:10:27 AM (3563 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Amy Holder/NJ
2/28/2005 10:36:23 AM (3561 views)

We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2005 9:26:15 PM (2404 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 12:25:02 PM (3646 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 12:35:42 PM (3645 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 1:08:49 PM (3521 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - PatriciaPalmer/PA
2/26/2005 2:55:48 PM (3524 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 6:05:50 PM (3493 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:31:53 PM (3655 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/27/2005 6:04:32 PM (3531 views)

need some opinions... - Amanda Fuller/TX
2/25/2005 11:37:47 AM (2522 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/25/2005 11:52:31 AM (3621 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jay Duncan/MO
2/25/2005 11:55:50 AM (3545 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/26/2005 11:28:44 PM (3503 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 10:44:04 AM (3417 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/25/2005 4:50:12 PM (3585 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/25/2005 5:18:03 PM (3488 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 4:39:40 PM (3481 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/28/2005 4:56:29 PM (3530 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 10:28:14 AM (3443 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:33:37 PM (3562 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
3/1/2005 3:13:09 PM (3397 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 5:38:43 PM (3419 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 2:54:09 PM (3448 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 11:24:54 AM (3315 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Ms. A/MO
3/1/2005 12:15:16 PM (3369 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:36:34 PM (3413 views)

ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Slade Smith/OH
2/25/2005 5:22:20 AM (3214 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Robert Breakell/CT
2/25/2005 7:57:34 AM (3353 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Slade Smith/OH
2/25/2005 9:14:58 AM (3309 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2005 8:26:05 AM (3336 views)

Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Susie/OH
2/24/2005 7:14:12 PM (2381 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 10:32:17 AM (3482 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 4:15:06 PM (3366 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Samson Ugorji/MD
2/28/2005 11:53:36 PM (3368 views)

How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/24/2005 1:16:03 PM (2525 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 1:33:15 PM (3493 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Jay Duncan
2/24/2005 6:25:42 PM (3574 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Robert Breakell/CT
2/24/2005 7:40:56 PM (3436 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 6:20:10 AM (3452 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/24/2005 10:01:52 PM (3385 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/24/2005 10:57:34 PM (3417 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/25/2005 3:42:47 PM (3375 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/25/2005 8:09:54 PM (3400 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 6:03:13 PM (3385 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 7:23:47 PM (3327 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 8:35:47 PM (3298 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 9:11:44 PM (3404 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 9:22:34 PM (3306 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 9:12:57 PM (3277 views)

I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 11:26:53 AM (2440 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 8:33:25 PM (3464 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2005 10:30:50 PM (3408 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 11:53:23 PM (3279 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/25/2005 12:19:59 AM (3321 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 6:12:14 AM (3308 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 7:55:35 AM (3376 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 8:03:23 AM (3190 views)

My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/23/2005 10:40:59 PM (2536 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/23/2005 11:24:37 PM (3375 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/24/2005 12:12:22 AM (3432 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/24/2005 7:51:43 AM (3600 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2005 9:46:59 AM (3465 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/24/2005 9:56:34 AM (3434 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 1:20:14 PM (3353 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jay Duncan
2/25/2005 1:23:59 PM (3465 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 4:01:55 PM (3488 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 5:15:07 PM (3454 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 5:24:49 PM (3300 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Robert Franco/OH
2/25/2005 6:02:40 PM (3504 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Helene/GA
2/26/2005 12:10:59 AM (3469 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/25/2005 6:20:41 PM (3414 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/25/2005 6:52:40 PM (3329 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/25/2005 9:44:56 PM (3423 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/26/2005 8:57:45 AM (3659 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 10:21:54 AM (3436 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 11:59:39 AM (3584 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 1:10:31 PM (3397 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 1:19:42 PM (3303 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/27/2005 5:58:14 PM (3277 views)

Arkansas Abstractors - Marty Munson/MI
2/23/2005 9:59:55 PM (2454 views)
Re: Arkansas Abstractors - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/24/2005 8:59:28 PM (3170 views)


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