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ethics - Toni Betts/IL
2/2/2005 5:07:47 PM (1877 views)
Re: ethics - Robert Franco/OH
2/2/2005 6:22:27 PM (2418 views)
Re: ethics - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/2/2005 6:59:14 PM (2466 views)
Re: ethics - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/2/2005 7:50:40 PM (2380 views)
Re: ethics - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/2/2005 8:19:46 PM (2411 views)
Re: ethics - Robert Franco/OH
2/2/2005 8:15:25 PM (2368 views)
Re: ethics - David Bloys/TX
2/2/2005 8:39:58 PM (2380 views)
Re: ethics - Smitty Strickland
2/2/2005 8:18:57 PM (2393 views)
Re: ethics - Donna Grady/NC
2/3/2005 12:30:30 AM (2435 views)

I agree with all that has been said on this thread.  When I left NC in 2001 the abstractors here all got along well with each other.  But there were only three of us independents and the others were employed by attorneys.  I went to SC and the majority of the abstractors were independents and territorial.  A few of them were hateful and mean.  So I wanted to return to NC where all the abstractors were more like family and friends.  When I returned to NC in 2004, it was the same as SC, the abstractors were at each others throats and not just the independents, the employed ones too.  I think it is the change in the industry as a whole.

I had to take a big cut in my fees in order to continue working for some of the same companies in NC that I worked for in SC.  So now I make the same fee in 2005 that I was making in 1993-2001 in NC.  Although in this county, the cost of a house has increased over 50% in the last three years.  The realtors make 6% commission the attorneys get $450.00 for purchase closings and the employed abstractors make $32 - 35,000.00 a year except the two male employed abstractors.  They make over $45,000.00.  An attorney can only pay an independent abstractor $50.00 for a search because he/she pays that out of the $450.00.  In SC, a search for an attorney could run up to $125 to $400 because the fee is collected on the HUD as separate from the attorney's closing fee.  To be honest, a search in SC is harder than in NC because of the way the title insurance companies are set up.  In NC, you can tack to an insurance policy and come up no matter which attorney's office did the previous search.  The title insurance company will insure the back title.  In SC, each attorney's office has their own title insurance company and they do not give out their back title.  So in SC, unless the attorney has already done the search before, every search is a full search.  Keep in mind I am not talking about the (national) title companies that request one owner searches.

As more and more title companies have sprung up in NC, the attorneys are not getting their piece of the pie which has caused some law firms to lay off title searchers.  Therefore the NC Bar is opposed to title companies and the way for them to get rid of them is to regulate how the attorneys can or can not use the independent abstractors.  No word yet from the NC Bar on their proposal.  They were supposed to rule on it in January.  None of the attorneys that I have asked have heard whether or not anything has be finalized.

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Re: ethics - Jonathan Figliuolo/SC
2/4/2005 5:17:44 PM (2359 views)
Re: ethics - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2005 5:35:27 PM (2335 views)
Re: ethics - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/4/2005 6:04:45 PM (2344 views)
Re: ethics - Robert Breakell/CT
2/3/2005 7:50:20 PM (2328 views)

ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - KIM HAASE/MT
2/2/2005 2:09:46 PM (2106 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - KIM HAASE/MT
2/2/2005 8:27:32 PM (2510 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Robert Franco/OH
2/2/2005 9:31:51 PM (3394 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/2/2005 10:42:02 PM (2490 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - KIM HAASE/MT
2/3/2005 10:43:13 AM (2357 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - George/VA
2/3/2005 1:54:52 PM (2462 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Samson Ugorji/MD
2/3/2005 5:45:47 PM (2422 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Cynthia May/VA
2/4/2005 10:12:22 PM (2418 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Jay Duncan
2/5/2005 6:10:50 PM (2461 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/5/2005 6:28:17 PM (2434 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - George/VA
2/5/2005 7:05:39 PM (2399 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/6/2005 11:38:05 AM (2350 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - George/VA
2/5/2005 7:07:49 PM (2379 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Smitty Strickland/SC
2/3/2005 6:21:10 PM (2473 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Robert Franco/OH
2/3/2005 6:45:10 PM (2417 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/3/2005 8:16:25 PM (2336 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Smitty Strickland/SC
2/4/2005 5:59:19 PM (2341 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Loretta Reed/MD
2/6/2005 10:06:56 AM (2370 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Smitty Strickland/SC
2/4/2005 5:56:37 PM (2352 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2005 8:02:06 PM (2311 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Smitty Strickland/SC
2/6/2005 11:32:22 AM (2302 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/6/2005 8:54:38 PM (2299 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Cynthia May/VA
2/7/2005 5:05:47 PM (2280 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - George/VA
2/7/2005 5:06:55 PM (2335 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/7/2005 6:02:04 PM (2329 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - George/VA
2/7/2005 6:22:24 PM (2293 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/7/2005 8:23:53 PM (2272 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - George/VA
2/7/2005 8:29:00 PM (2285 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - George/VA
2/8/2005 8:34:32 PM (2264 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Tom Miller/NY
5/12/2005 4:44:57 PM (2239 views)
Re: ABSTRACTING SOFTWARE - Patty Baber/FL
3/30/2021 12:06:46 PM (1172 views)

Bob Krummel - Busted! - Robert Franco/OH
2/1/2005 11:55:08 PM (2296 views)
Re: Bob Krummel - Busted! - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/2/2005 12:59:56 AM (2445 views)
Re: Bob Krummel - Busted! - David Bloys/TX
2/2/2005 7:27:53 AM (2391 views)
Re: Bob Krummel - Busted! - Loretta Reed/MD
2/2/2005 8:09:13 AM (2360 views)
Re: Bob Krummel - Busted! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/2/2005 8:44:40 AM (2416 views)
Re: Bob Krummel - Busted! - Jay Duncan
2/2/2005 8:59:20 AM (2286 views)
Re: Bob Krummel - Busted! - Jay Duncan
2/2/2005 8:59:43 AM (2332 views)
Re: Bob Krummel - Busted! - Thomas Moens/IL
2/2/2005 10:16:41 AM (2321 views)
Re: Bob Krummel - Busted! - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/2/2005 2:05:37 PM (2283 views)
Re: Bob Krummel - Busted! - Robert Franco/OH
2/2/2005 5:15:11 PM (2377 views)
Re: Bob Krummel - Busted! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/2/2005 8:07:13 PM (2292 views)
Re: Bob Krummel - Busted! - Michelle Bernard/LA
2/3/2005 8:04:46 PM (2259 views)
Re: Bob Krummel - Busted! - Cathy Iffergan/TX
2/10/2005 1:45:08 AM (2202 views)
Re: Bob Krummel - Busted! - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/10/2005 3:14:04 AM (2255 views)

NorCal Notary Public Luncheon 1-29-05 - Fay Hudson/CA
2/1/2005 1:26:48 PM (1490 views)

21 yr Judicial searches - Susan/OH/OH
2/1/2005 10:36:28 AM (1491 views)




DRI Title - Thomas Moens/IL
2/1/2005 10:08:01 AM (1971 views)
Re: DRI Title - David Nixon/MA
2/1/2005 12:28:36 PM (2537 views)
Re: DRI Title - AR/VA
2/1/2005 9:01:40 PM (2480 views)
Re: DRI Title - Thomas Moens/IL
2/2/2005 10:14:09 AM (2492 views)
Re: DRI Title - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/3/2005 10:57:28 PM (2432 views)
Re: DRI Title - terry sutton/CT
2/9/2005 12:08:40 PM (2403 views)

abstracting question, I think - Chet Mazur/CA
2/1/2005 9:56:32 AM (1877 views)
Re: abstracting question, I think - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/1/2005 1:45:17 PM (2521 views)
Re: abstracting question, I think - Chet Mazur/CA
2/2/2005 1:35:21 AM (2427 views)
Re: abstracting question, I think - kevin ahern/CT
2/2/2005 5:37:04 AM (2487 views)

Need E & O Insurance - Bob Krummel/IL
2/1/2005 8:35:40 AM (1955 views)
Re: Need E & O Insurance - Robert Franco/OH
2/1/2005 9:45:26 AM (3518 views)

Lost Doc - David Bloys/TX
2/1/2005 8:26:48 AM (1831 views)
Re: Lost Doc - Robert Franco/OH
2/1/2005 4:44:17 PM (2422 views)
Re: Lost Doc - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/1/2005 8:42:58 PM (2354 views)

Since No One Has Questions/Answer - I'll Take the Time to Say Thank You - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/31/2005 11:19:04 PM (1806 views)
Re: Since No One Has Questions/Answer - I'll Take the Time to Say Thank You - Ms. A/MO
2/15/2005 3:17:35 PM (2379 views)

Anyone out There? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/31/2005 6:12:03 PM (1403 views)

Ethics - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/30/2005 7:52:39 PM (1831 views)
Re: Ethics - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/30/2005 9:42:11 PM (2513 views)
Re: Ethics - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/1/2005 2:12:51 PM (2471 views)
Re: Ethics - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/7/2005 9:09:34 PM (2475 views)

Impac - Smitty Strickland/SC
1/29/2005 4:04:55 PM (1563 views)

EAG Consultants - Smitty Strickland/SC
1/29/2005 4:03:39 PM (1523 views)

Transunion Settlement Solutions... - Ellen Malloy/MO
1/28/2005 10:33:59 AM (2222 views)
Re: Transunion Settlement Solutions... - Richard Brockman/WI
2/1/2005 7:58:56 PM (2837 views)
Re: Transunion Settlement Solutions... - Laurie E/MD
2/2/2005 9:21:42 PM (2680 views)
Re: Transunion Settlement Solutions... - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/2/2005 10:43:16 PM (2645 views)
Re: Transunion Settlement Solutions... - Robert Franco/OH
2/2/2005 11:10:03 PM (2630 views)
Re: Transunion Settlement Solutions... - John Redhead/NY
2/11/2005 8:21:47 AM (2713 views)
Re: Transunion Settlement Solutions... - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/11/2005 11:58:08 AM (2719 views)


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