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online searchers put me out of buss. - JD Smith/SC
11/10/2004 12:18:49 PM (2515 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 1:06:57 PM (3873 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - terezia pataki/FL
11/10/2004 2:14:13 PM (3807 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/10/2004 2:41:38 PM (3841 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 3:40:08 PM (3687 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Ellen Malloy/MO
11/10/2004 3:02:54 PM (3696 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Douglas Gallant/OH
11/10/2004 6:32:29 PM (3732 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Robert Breakell/CT
11/10/2004 7:24:16 PM (3766 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Ellen Malloy/MO
11/10/2004 8:40:57 PM (3634 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Michelle Bernard/LA
11/11/2004 7:44:40 PM (3611 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - kevin ahern/CT
11/11/2004 5:56:45 AM (3565 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Robert Breakell/CT
11/11/2004 12:05:21 PM (3488 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - kevin ahern/CT
11/11/2004 12:28:34 PM (3571 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Kurt deVries/FL
11/12/2004 1:48:22 PM (3574 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/13/2004 1:08:53 AM (3607 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/13/2004 12:18:51 PM (3467 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/13/2004 5:21:19 PM (3506 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Jimmy Smith/PA
11/13/2004 11:46:30 AM (3581 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/13/2004 4:56:45 PM (3556 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Jimmy Smith/PA
11/15/2004 5:04:38 PM (3493 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/15/2004 6:00:27 PM (3511 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/15/2004 8:46:35 PM (3559 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Ray Fellows/MA
11/15/2004 2:57:56 PM (3419 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/16/2004 1:23:12 AM (3453 views)

infoTrack - Frank Navarro - Traci/AL
11/10/2004 11:09:59 AM (2689 views)
Re: infoTrack - Frank Navarro - Becky/NC
11/10/2004 9:06:00 PM (3610 views)
Re: infoTrack - Frank Navarro - Donna Grady/NC
11/11/2004 8:29:34 PM (3563 views)
Re: infoTrack - Frank Navarro - Oliver Chisolm, Jr/MS
11/13/2004 3:16:46 PM (3634 views)
Re: infoTrack - Frank Navarro - Traci/AL
11/15/2004 11:43:14 PM (3530 views)
Re: infoTrack - Frank Navarro - Helene/GA
11/18/2004 9:12:19 PM (3790 views)
Re: infoTrack - Frank Navarro - Helene/GA
1/4/2005 10:41:06 PM (3493 views)
Re: infoTrack - Frank Navarro - Traci/AL
1/5/2005 10:08:28 PM (3488 views)

Competing With Online Searches - Compass Abstracts/FL
11/10/2004 12:25:40 AM (2507 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 3:25:46 AM (3466 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - terezia pataki/FL
11/10/2004 10:25:18 AM (3519 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/10/2004 11:24:25 AM (3424 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/10/2004 11:39:15 AM (3526 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 1:16:20 PM (3366 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Compass Abstracts/FL
11/12/2004 12:02:04 AM (3317 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Kurt deVries/FL
11/12/2004 1:52:22 PM (3389 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Compass Abstracts/FL
11/12/2004 11:36:49 PM (3378 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Rebecca Barney/FL
11/15/2004 10:20:02 AM (3330 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
11/10/2004 5:43:16 PM (3356 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - David Bloys/TX
11/10/2004 8:02:37 PM (3348 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
11/11/2004 4:48:27 PM (3326 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Jeanne Johnson/MN
11/11/2004 1:53:53 PM (3426 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Compass Abstracts/FL
11/12/2004 12:13:11 AM (3333 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
11/12/2004 6:06:17 PM (3200 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Compass Abstracts/FL
11/12/2004 11:29:13 PM (3296 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/13/2004 1:18:57 AM (3287 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Robert Franco/OH
11/13/2004 4:44:23 PM (3396 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/13/2004 5:26:40 PM (3299 views)

Associations - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/9/2004 5:01:27 PM (2296 views)
Re: Associations - Robert Breakell/CT
11/9/2004 8:43:35 PM (3264 views)
Re: Associations - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 2:01:35 PM (3175 views)

Surfin' - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/9/2004 4:27:31 PM (2217 views)
Re: Surfin' - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/9/2004 4:58:58 PM (4185 views)




Post NALTEA Conference Meeting - Robert Franco/OH
11/9/2004 3:17:19 PM (2213 views)
Re: Post NALTEA Conference Meeting - Jay Duncan
11/9/2004 3:35:49 PM (3191 views)
Re: Post NALTEA Conference Meeting - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/9/2004 4:50:15 PM (3216 views)
Re: Post NALTEA Conference Meeting - Robert Breakell/CT
11/9/2004 8:37:37 PM (3201 views)
Re: Post NALTEA Conference Meeting - David Bloys/TX
11/9/2004 10:03:16 PM (3154 views)
Re: Post NALTEA Conference Meeting - Compass Abstracts/FL
11/9/2004 11:06:28 PM (3218 views)

NCSTATE BAR TRYING TO SHUT DOWN INDEPENDENT PARALEGALS - Donna Grady/NC
11/9/2004 11:28:24 AM (2381 views)
Re: NCSTATE BAR TRYING TO SHUT DOWN INDEPENDENT PARALEGALS - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/9/2004 8:02:24 PM (3252 views)
Re: NCSTATE BAR TRYING TO SHUT DOWN INDEPENDENT PARALEGALS - Donna Grady/NC
11/9/2004 10:13:05 PM (3423 views)

I have read the article.....I have discussed it with an attorney that was at a Real Estate Bar Luncheon today that the chairman of the real property section of the state bar was the guest speaker. 

For anyone who is interested in this, I will type in some of the article.

Bar Ruling Would Limit Use of Paralegal Search Companies  Lawyers Weekly, November 8, 2004

Independent Title Search Company
In proposed 2004 FEO 12, an attorney with a small real estate practice wanted to hire an independent company, ABC, to do title searches.  ABC used paralegal employees or independent paralegals to search the public records.
Under the contemplated arrangement ABC would provide the title notes to the attorney, who in turn would certify title to a title insurance company.  After the closing, ABC would update the title and record the documents.  The attorney asked whether his employment of ABC under those facts was ethical.  The committee ruled NO, citing 2002 FEO 9.  That opinion states:  "Satisfying the duty of competent representation is not possible if the non lawyer who is performing the public records search, in order to provide information upon which the lawyer will base her opinion on title is employed by an independent, organized entity and is not, therefore, under the lawyer's direct authority and supervision." RPC 216 states.
Inquiry #1 uses the scenario above... hiring ABC company.... Question is:  May Attorney A employ an organized entity, such as ABC, to perform a public records search for a real estate closing?
Opinion #1 NO
Inquiry #2 Does it matter if a title insurance company to which Attorney A provides a title opinion owns ABC?
Opinion #2 The answer to this question requires an interpretation of NCGS 58-26-5(a).  The Ethics Committee cannot provide an opinion on an issure of law.
Inquiry #3 Does it matter if there is common ownership of the title insurance company and ABC?
Opinion #3 See opinion #2
Inquiry #4 Does it matter if Attorney A has a financial interest in ABC?
Opinion #4 No

This opinion will be voted on in January by the NC Bar Association. 
Sounds to me that the title companies using independent paralegals in NC will be shut out of business.  As an independent paralegal, I will still be allowed to work with the attorney but not for the title companies.  
The Federal Trade Commission stepped in and allowed the title companies in North Carolina to provide title searches to the lenders to refinance without the attorney but not to do real estate transactions (purchases).   So the NC Bar is working hard to keep the attorneys from becoming just signature/witness closers. 

Where does that leave you title companies?  Will you fight this NCBar Ruling so you can continue to do business in NC?  I witnessed first hand Home Focus getting shut out of SC and I lost all their business overnight.  It was a $10,000.00 account in the six months that I had their business.  Bank of America was forced to use the local attorneys for their refinances. 


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Re: NCSTATE BAR TRYING TO SHUT DOWN INDEPENDENT PARALEGALS - Donna Grady/NC
11/9/2004 10:17:04 PM (3189 views)
Re: NCSTATE BAR TRYING TO SHUT DOWN INDEPENDENT PARALEGALS - Robert Franco/OH
11/12/2004 3:14:09 PM (3155 views)

3000 - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/8/2004 5:20:02 PM (2262 views)
Re: 3000 - Robert Franco/OH
11/8/2004 5:35:09 PM (3272 views)
Re: 3000 - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/9/2004 2:20:07 AM (3137 views)
Re: 3000 - Robert Franco/OH
11/9/2004 10:46:03 AM (3168 views)

Zeno Data - Matthew DeLand/NY
11/8/2004 4:49:23 PM (2328 views)
Re: Zeno Data - Robert Franco/OH
11/8/2004 5:30:31 PM (5566 views)
NO MACHINE CAN DO THIS JOB... - Scott Perry/PA
11/9/2004 8:19:46 PM (3221 views)
Re: NO MACHINE CAN DO THIS JOB... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/9/2004 10:50:16 PM (3248 views)
Re: NO MACHINE CAN DO THIS JOB... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/9/2004 10:50:21 PM (3251 views)
Re: NO MACHINE CAN DO THIS JOB... - Robert Breakell/CT
11/10/2004 7:43:58 PM (3262 views)

3S Realserv - Lynn Hammett/SC
11/8/2004 2:57:49 PM (2387 views)
Re: 3S Realserv - David Bloys/TX
11/8/2004 3:15:26 PM (3284 views)
Re: 3S Realserv - jayne storm/SD
11/8/2004 3:44:12 PM (3339 views)

Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - David Bloys/TX
11/8/2004 1:53:09 PM (2472 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/8/2004 2:27:54 PM (3367 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - David Bloys/TX
11/8/2004 3:01:34 PM (3428 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - Robert Franco/OH
11/8/2004 3:01:18 PM (3438 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - kevin ahern/CT
11/8/2004 3:58:08 PM (3367 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/8/2004 4:00:10 PM (3319 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - Robert Franco/OH
11/8/2004 4:20:15 PM (3367 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - Douglas Gallant/OH
11/9/2004 7:25:49 PM (3342 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/9/2004 8:05:24 PM (3291 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - kevin ahern/CT
11/10/2004 5:51:54 AM (3514 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/10/2004 11:03:03 AM (3362 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/10/2004 11:25:19 AM (3376 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - kevin ahern/CT
11/10/2004 4:07:28 PM (3273 views)

For Judy - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/7/2004 3:33:55 PM (2138 views)
Re: For Judy - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/7/2004 9:54:50 PM (3183 views)

Client of the Month - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/6/2004 6:49:33 PM (2259 views)
Re: Client of the Month - Julie Jasiunas/WI
11/7/2004 11:34:19 AM (3219 views)
Re: Client of the Month - Julie Jasiunas/WI
11/7/2004 11:35:44 AM (3247 views)
Re: Client of the Month - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/7/2004 2:51:45 PM (3260 views)
Re: Client of the Month - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/7/2004 3:03:38 PM (3160 views)
Re: Client of the Month - G/GA
11/8/2004 10:19:00 PM (3243 views)
Re: Client of the Month - Jay Duncan
11/9/2004 3:36:29 PM (3187 views)
Re: Client of the Month - Oliver Chisolm, Jr/MS
11/9/2004 8:16:20 PM (3119 views)

Hanc Group - Susan Raynard/MA
11/6/2004 1:21:44 PM (2200 views)
Re: Hanc Group - James Slowey III/TX
11/13/2004 12:01:58 AM (2982 views)

Does anyone know G Docs - Jacqueline Costa/RI
11/6/2004 10:55:43 AM (2191 views)
Re: Does anyone know G Docs - Jacqueline Costa/RI
11/6/2004 11:04:46 AM (3131 views)
Re: Does anyone know G Docs - Tim Collins/OH
11/9/2004 10:28:02 AM (3002 views)


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