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LLC - Annette Dorty/PA
10/29/2004 2:52:23 PM (2621 views)
Re: LLC - Robert Franco/OH
10/29/2004 3:42:02 PM (3638 views)

ABSTRACTERS OF AMERICA - CLEOFI BLASS/NJ
10/29/2004 9:30:27 AM (2545 views)
Re: ABSTRACTERS OF AMERICA - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/29/2004 9:46:11 AM (3848 views)
Re: ABSTRACTERS OF AMERICA - Michael Solt/PA
10/31/2004 12:04:31 PM (3753 views)
Re: ABSTRACTERS OF AMERICA - CLEOFI BLASS/NJ
11/2/2004 10:19:31 AM (3765 views)

Signing Agent for Closings - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 8:33:43 PM (2368 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/28/2004 10:18:29 PM (4516 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/29/2004 11:59:52 AM (3810 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Brenda Sarver/MD
11/1/2004 10:56:10 AM (3832 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - kevin ahern/CT
11/1/2004 11:47:19 AM (3881 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Teresa Walker/TN
11/1/2004 9:36:04 AM (5084 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/1/2004 10:59:01 AM (3801 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/2/2004 1:36:58 PM (3761 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/3/2004 12:49:06 PM (3799 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/7/2004 9:59:03 PM (3684 views)

Becoming an abstractor - CTE/MD
10/28/2004 12:06:24 PM (2676 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2004 1:58:16 PM (4106 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Jay Duncan/MO
10/28/2004 2:12:55 PM (5442 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - CTE/MD
10/28/2004 3:14:27 PM (4124 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/28/2004 4:05:56 PM (4013 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - John Sarro/MD
11/4/2004 7:40:55 PM (5449 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Robert Franco/OH
11/4/2004 8:12:21 PM (6699 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Robin Beaker/MD
11/7/2004 11:03:34 AM (5546 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/4/2004 11:31:33 PM (3943 views)
See here is another idiot posting. - Robin Beaker/MD
11/7/2004 11:13:33 AM (4353 views)
Re: See here is another idiot posting. - Julie Jasiunas/WI
11/7/2004 12:18:23 PM (4113 views)
Robin: here is another idiot posting. - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/7/2004 3:56:19 PM (3937 views)
Re: Robin: here is another idiot posting. - Loretta Reed/MD
11/7/2004 6:14:09 PM (3902 views)
Re: Robin: here is another idiot posting. - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/9/2004 11:30:07 AM (3830 views)
Re: See here is another idiot posting. - Robert Franco/OH
11/7/2004 8:45:09 PM (4014 views)
Re: See here is another idiot posting. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/7/2004 9:47:57 PM (3942 views)
I bet this lady gets sued - Mary Roberson/MD
11/15/2004 8:38:55 PM (4366 views)
Re: I bet this lady gets sued - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/15/2004 11:36:37 PM (3909 views)

Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 9:17:41 PM (2611 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/27/2004 10:27:25 PM (3980 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/28/2004 12:53:00 AM (3826 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:27:23 AM (4506 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Jay Duncan
10/28/2004 8:40:25 AM (3876 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kurt deVries/FL
10/28/2004 9:02:59 AM (3798 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:30:16 AM (3898 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kurt deVries/FL
10/28/2004 11:17:34 AM (3884 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 4:51:55 PM (3821 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:21:59 AM (3800 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Robert Breakell/CT
10/28/2004 10:40:11 AM (3981 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kim Cowles/WI
10/28/2004 10:47:47 AM (3865 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kurt deVries/FL
10/28/2004 11:15:18 AM (4053 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kim Cowles/FL
10/28/2004 1:04:11 PM (4702 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2004 11:15:38 AM (3926 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kurt deVries/FL
10/28/2004 11:20:49 AM (3782 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2004 1:10:52 PM (3773 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 4:57:42 PM (3754 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Steve Schneider/IN
10/28/2004 7:06:48 PM (3857 views)




Are we our own worst enemy? - Robert Franco/OH
10/27/2004 5:12:06 PM (2514 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 5:30:18 PM (3787 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - kevin ahern/CT
10/28/2004 7:54:18 AM (3843 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2004 3:21:01 PM (3715 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - kevin ahern/CT
10/28/2004 4:11:01 PM (3717 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/29/2004 12:05:55 PM (3714 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/29/2004 8:02:26 PM (3663 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - kevin ahern/CT
10/29/2004 8:43:12 PM (3671 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Anne Pettitt/MD
11/1/2004 10:50:10 AM (3597 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/1/2004 11:04:41 AM (3759 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/7/2004 10:01:46 PM (3716 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Douglas Gallant/OH
11/12/2004 6:17:07 PM (3640 views)

HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:42:50 AM (2442 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Jay Duncan
10/27/2004 12:18:44 PM (3723 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 3:52:50 PM (3647 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/27/2004 4:36:02 PM (3758 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Robert Breakell/CT
10/27/2004 6:00:08 PM (3698 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 7:31:00 PM (3662 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Robert Breakell/CT
10/27/2004 9:13:39 PM (4661 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Donna Grady/NC
10/27/2004 10:51:16 PM (3469 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Debra Adkins/VA
11/2/2004 9:14:59 PM (3523 views)

HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:42:48 AM (1814 views)

This Web Site is a MUST!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 10:31:00 PM (2752 views)

NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/26/2004 8:35:12 PM (2502 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Jay Duncan
10/26/2004 8:50:18 PM (3867 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 10:38:21 AM (3798 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Jay Duncan
10/27/2004 10:51:18 AM (3848 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:02:28 AM (3804 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 9:08:59 PM (3787 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Wayne Schutt II/NY
10/26/2004 9:13:24 PM (3837 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/26/2004 9:20:07 PM (4787 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:12:38 AM (3846 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:01:41 AM (3759 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:01:41 AM (3741 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 9:51:35 PM (3661 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - anon/GA
10/26/2004 10:23:18 PM (3813 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:15:55 AM (3852 views)
e &o - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/27/2004 4:48:28 PM (3867 views)
Re: e &o - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 5:13:13 PM (3781 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 7:33:24 PM (3811 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Jay Duncan/MO
10/27/2004 10:31:34 PM (3744 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:34:36 AM (3737 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Jay Duncan
10/28/2004 9:37:40 AM (3851 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:42:49 AM (3755 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Donna Grady/NC
10/27/2004 10:35:48 PM (3687 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Donna Grady/NC
10/27/2004 10:40:40 PM (3743 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:39:55 AM (3858 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:38:44 AM (3831 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Debra Adkins/VA
11/1/2004 9:21:17 AM (3776 views)

Here is another thought... - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 3:14:00 PM (2358 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan
10/26/2004 4:20:22 PM (3751 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 4:44:27 PM (3770 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 4:38:33 PM (3696 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 5:22:47 PM (3615 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 6:26:22 PM (3651 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 7:09:11 PM (3684 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/26/2004 7:13:27 PM (3658 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:38:28 PM (3595 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 8:41:06 PM (3644 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 8:47:15 PM (3510 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 9:58:57 PM (3584 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 7:25:09 AM (3631 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 6:59:35 AM (3542 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan
10/27/2004 8:40:40 AM (3576 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 10:04:36 AM (3560 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan
10/27/2004 10:49:15 AM (3567 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Franco/OH
10/27/2004 11:04:58 AM (3591 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 12:53:52 PM (3518 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/27/2004 4:55:57 PM (3564 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/27/2004 5:03:50 PM (3487 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:39:52 PM (3395 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 8:52:45 PM (3553 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 7:37:40 AM (3461 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:25:52 PM (3396 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/26/2004 7:11:56 PM (3579 views)

1.  Liability - I am concerned not with the liability of any individual abstractor, but the LLC as a whole.  If the work is being ordered from the LLC - don't we run the risk of being brought in to a suit any time one of the members makes a mistake?  I can't imagine what that E&O policy would cost.  The LLC is a separate entity, just like a corporation.  The participants would simply be shareholders.  Someone will be the end of the pencil and own a majority share.  At some point, maybe a year, maybe several years, the minority interests will get squeezed.  It happens in the best of organizations.  Basically, we will be giving ourselves another client which will have the same liability as any other company.

2.  Lack of Choice - If we get a less than thorough abstractor that buys in we would be "obligated" to assign them work, even if we find out they don't do the quality we expect.  As a client company, there is no real obligation to assign work if the quality is not there.  In the end, it will be a matter of honor...is there any of us that would not understand not honoring a contract if it will be detrimental to the whole?

3. Lack of Control - With 1 to 2 thousand members of the LLC, who is going to be in charge?  I think everyone would want to do things "their" way, and as an owner, they might expect it.  I think that going into this LLC concept, everyone will have to understand that although they are "buying in", they are only paying a client to give them work and market for abstractors in general.  It is not possible to have more than one chief. 

4. Independent Mentality - We are all used to working independently.  I'll bet "plays well with others" wasn't something seen on most of our kindergarden report cards.  Though it is truly what is lacking, how do we convince everyone it is in their best interest to work with their competition?  We work with our competition everyday.  Like any other company who has certain expectations, the LLC will spell them out and the abstractor will have to adhere.  Don't we all have some clients that provide their own forms or tell us exactly what they want us to search?

5. Competition - You really can't discuss possible problems without including outside competition from other vendor management companies.  Other vendor management companies are trying to force abstractors into working for less, and using the cheapest they can find.  If other vendor management companies are offering a lower price, we would need to compete soley based on quality - that can be a really tough sell to potential clients.  Can we structure this so that we can charge the prices we do for a quality search, and still offer a lower price to the client.  An LLC will be another vendor management company.  We will need to compete with them toe to toe.

I'll repeat here, NALTEA is already set up to market on behalf of competent abstractors everywhere.  I have never had a difficult time getting clients, even in tough times.  You just pick up the phone and do it.  While NALTEA is giving us credentials and marketing to the industry the importance of using NALTEA members to do searches, we will also be following competency guidelines that set us apart from everyone else.  I'm guessing this is not what some of you want to hear, but creating an LLC is setting up another company...and asking SOT members to contribute is asking for SOT members to fund it like shareholders, but without the benefit of a guarantee.  If all SOT members are going to be shareholders of the LLC, are they all going to be listed on the "creating" document?  Of course not.  Having NALTEA form this service brings credibility to that organization and to its members.

Hope I haven't offended anyone, that was not my intention. 

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Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 5:12:46 PM (3602 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Lynn Hammett/SC
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Re: Here is another thought... - Donna Grady/NC
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Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: certification - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: Here is another thought... - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/27/2004 1:43:58 PM (4416 views)

Local Abstractors & the SOT Directory - David Bloys/TX
10/26/2004 12:54:21 PM (2457 views)
Re: Local Abstractors & the SOT Directory - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 2:16:11 PM (3386 views)
Re: Local Abstractors & the SOT Directory - Donna Grady/NC
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WARNING - Roger Walters/MA
10/26/2004 10:36:39 AM (2406 views)
Re: WARNING - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 10:57:28 AM (3641 views)
Re: WARNING - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: WARNING - Kathy Clark/CA
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Re: WARNING - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: WARNING - Roger Walters/MA
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Re: WARNING - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: WARNING - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: WARNING - David Bloys/TX
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Re: WARNING - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/26/2004 7:52:13 PM (3460 views)

SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Franco/OH
10/25/2004 5:20:51 PM (2414 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Breakell/CT
10/25/2004 6:03:38 PM (3581 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/25/2004 6:58:15 PM (3453 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Franco/OH
10/25/2004 7:55:01 PM (3549 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/25/2004 11:14:31 PM (3515 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Jay Duncan
10/25/2004 11:51:35 PM (3571 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 4:46:38 AM (3461 views)
Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:41:17 AM (3464 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Jay Duncan
10/26/2004 8:41:12 AM (3450 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: Amendment 5 - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 9:50:41 AM (3451 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: Amendment 5 - Donna Grady/NC
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Re: Amendment 5 - Norean Cashwell/GA
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LLC Questions??? - Jay Duncan/MO
10/23/2004 11:18:11 AM (2330 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/23/2004 1:07:41 PM (3467 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: LLC Questions??? - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/23/2004 6:44:24 PM (3403 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Donna Grady/NC
10/24/2004 11:41:09 PM (3490 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/25/2004 6:44:17 AM (3461 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Donna Grady/NC
10/25/2004 12:05:04 PM (3465 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/25/2004 12:57:03 PM (3398 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/25/2004 4:06:24 PM (3317 views)


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