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E & O Insurance - Kurt deVries/FL
7/8/2004 1:26:05 PM (1890 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - James Guill/VA
7/8/2004 1:42:40 PM (3309 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Kurt deVries/FL
7/8/2004 2:43:17 PM (3267 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - kevin ahern/CT
7/10/2004 5:34:02 AM (3448 views)

DOCUMENT RETRIEVAL - CLEOFI BLASS/NJ
7/7/2004 9:42:51 AM (2063 views)
Re: DOCUMENT RETRIEVAL - George/VA
7/7/2004 1:22:43 PM (3434 views)
Re: DOCUMENT RETRIEVAL - Jay Duncan
7/7/2004 2:12:13 PM (3501 views)
Re: DOCUMENT RETRIEVAL - Amanda Packey/FL
7/7/2004 3:25:42 PM (3540 views)
Re: DOCUMENT RETRIEVAL - Angelica DelliCarpini/IN
7/8/2004 10:10:07 AM (3465 views)

Out Sourcing... - Jay Duncan/MO
7/7/2004 8:35:51 AM (2027 views)
Re: Out Sourcing... - Wanda Steudel/OH
7/7/2004 10:15:30 AM (3589 views)
Re: Out Sourcing... - Ellen Malloy/MO
7/7/2004 10:42:34 AM (3597 views)
Re: ONLINE DATA - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/7/2004 12:16:03 PM (3621 views)
Re: ONLINE DATA - James Guill/VA
7/7/2004 10:20:28 PM (3607 views)
Re: ONLINE DATA - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/7/2004 11:17:01 PM (3491 views)
Re: ONLINE DATA - James Guill/VA
7/7/2004 11:39:31 PM (3521 views)
Re: ONLINE DATA - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/8/2004 12:10:01 AM (3501 views)
Re: ONLINE DATA - James Guill/VA
7/8/2004 1:12:11 AM (3412 views)
Re: ONLINE DATA - James Guill/VA
7/8/2004 1:24:05 AM (3524 views)
Re: Out Sourcing... - Kelli Gorman/TX
7/13/2004 3:36:00 PM (3528 views)
Re: Out Sourcing... - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/13/2004 4:32:05 PM (3491 views)

Collection Agency for Just Abstractors - Angelica DelliCarpini/IN
7/7/2004 2:00:15 AM (1571 views)

Using a laptop to search - Annette Dorty/PA
7/6/2004 3:02:06 PM (2903 views)
Re: Using a laptop to search - Alan Voorheis
7/6/2004 3:44:08 PM (3685 views)
Re: Using a laptop to search - Annette Dorty/PA
7/6/2004 6:48:45 PM (3724 views)
Re: Using a laptop to search - Scott Perry/PA
7/6/2004 10:13:29 PM (3693 views)
Re: Using a laptop to search - Annette Dorty/PA
7/7/2004 1:49:01 PM (3563 views)




Lots of PC on the "Newbies" - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 12:53:53 PM (1455 views)

Brutal Truth gets your attention!!! - Jay Duncan
7/5/2004 2:26:09 PM (1841 views)
Re: Brutal Truth gets your attention!!! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/5/2004 5:07:46 PM (3462 views)
Re: Brutal Truth gets your attention!!! - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/5/2004 6:54:34 PM (3546 views)
Re: Brutal Truth gets your attention!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
7/5/2004 10:28:50 PM (3507 views)

Community College Classes - James Guill/VA
7/4/2004 2:28:49 PM (1720 views)
Re: Community College Classes - Robert Franco/OH
7/4/2004 2:44:03 PM (3949 views)
Re: Community College Classes - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/4/2004 2:52:32 PM (3422 views)
Re: Community College Classes - Loretta Reed/MD
7/4/2004 5:16:33 PM (3425 views)
Re: Community College Classes - James Guill/VA
7/4/2004 5:57:19 PM (3544 views)
Re: Community College Classes - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/4/2004 6:44:37 PM (3427 views)

It is the VETERAN...... - Jay Duncan/MO
7/4/2004 2:16:30 PM (1763 views)
Re: It is the GRUNT - Datalore/PA
7/4/2004 8:48:23 PM (3264 views)

Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/3/2004 10:32:04 AM (1831 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/3/2004 11:17:53 AM (3424 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/3/2004 11:21:19 AM (3410 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/3/2004 2:01:17 PM (3412 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/3/2004 6:36:19 PM (3377 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/4/2004 10:08:24 AM (3300 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/4/2004 11:39:15 AM (3340 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/4/2004 1:20:04 PM (3382 views)
Kurts Training!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 1:06:10 PM (3398 views)
Re: Kurts Training!!! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/6/2004 4:53:02 PM (3404 views)
Who CAME after you? - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 9:27:34 AM (3296 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Loretta Reed/MD
7/7/2004 9:35:04 AM (3402 views)
MD has some Crazy Laws - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 10:45:15 AM (3414 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/7/2004 1:05:22 PM (3239 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Jay Duncan
7/7/2004 1:18:50 PM (3326 views)
Re: Kurts Training!!! - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/7/2004 5:52:19 PM (3393 views)
Re: Incorporate - Robert Franco/OH
7/7/2004 10:24:47 AM (3261 views)
Re: Incorporate - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 10:41:35 AM (3418 views)
Re: Incorporate - Loretta Reed/MD
7/7/2004 1:40:02 PM (3289 views)
Re: Incorporate - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 3:23:05 PM (3268 views)
Re: Incorporate - Amanda Packey/FL
7/7/2004 3:33:33 PM (3336 views)
Thank You Amanda!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 4:02:16 PM (3203 views)
Re: Thank You Amanda!!! - Amanda Packey/FL
7/7/2004 4:08:18 PM (3343 views)
Re: Incorporate - kevin ahern/CT
7/8/2004 7:08:59 AM (3252 views)
Re: Incorporate - Robert Franco/OH
7/8/2004 2:38:24 PM (3189 views)
Re: Incorporate (PA) - Annette Dorty/PA
7/8/2004 4:08:32 PM (3224 views)
Re: Incorporate (PA) - kevin ahern/CT
7/9/2004 5:27:30 AM (3285 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Robert Franco/OH
7/4/2004 2:21:30 PM (3219 views)

I hate to get involved in this conversation, but I think it is an important topic.  "Newbie Bashing" is not a good thing, and I don't want to blame the "newbies" for some of the problems in the industry - because they don't know the problems that are being caused by their lack of training.  I believe that there are a lot of well intentioned abstractors, very new to the field, who were led down this path by someone else.

The best advice for someone who wants to be an independent abstractor is to work for a title company or attorney for a couple of years (and that may not be enough).  The only way to become a good abstractor is to gain experience... the only way to gain expereince without causing a lot of problems and incurring a huge amount of liability is to have someone knowledgeable in the field review your work and explain "WHY" you should or shouldn't show certian items.  Good training is extremely important!!

For example... when you are searching a property that recently came out of foreclosure with liens still showing open you have to know when lis pendens applies.  Some liens may survive the suit, others may be extiguished. When you have a deed that wasn't notarized properly, what is the statutory requirement that will cure the defect?  There are so many things that you really can't be prepared for, unless you have come across them before and had someone there to properly explain them when they do arise.  That takes a lot of time - and a good teacher.

It is easy for someone to say, "just find the deed and look for any liens", but there is so much more to it than that.  As rates begin to rise and more forclosures are filed, many cliams will be generated.  It is going to be a scary time for a lot of abstractors and insurers.

I have also spoken with a few E&O insurers regarding discounts for NALTEA members and the answer was always the same... "there are a lot of new abstractors that haven't been properly trained entering the field."  This is ONE of the causes of the higer rates, but I'm sure there are other forces at work also.

Source of Title gets a lot of e-mail asking "how do I become an abstractor?" and I always tell them the same thing - get a job with a title company or attorney that has sufficent resources to train you properly.  Anyone who wants to be an abstractor, without the necessary training, can get into the field, but they should be aware of the requirements of the job and fully understand the liability associated with it.  Missing one mortgage, federal tax lien, life estate, or anything else could cost you your home!  Most of us can't afford to pay a $100,000 claim and the rising E&O rates should be an indication of the liability involved.

A final note:  the Source of Title message forums are for everyone, newbies and seasoned abstractors alike, but newbies won't always like the responses they get.  They shouldn't be taken as "hostile" or "bashing" but as a wanring that there is a lot of responsibility involved with abstracting.  Peoples homes, the single largest investment they make, are riding on your ability to perform your duties as an abstractor.  Those who have been trained for years before becoming independent are frustrated with the abstractors that don't think they need to be properly trained or aren't aware of the training that they didn't get.  Some of them simply do not realize how much they do not know.

Best to everyone,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: Newbie bashing - James Guill/VA
7/4/2004 3:56:18 PM (3203 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/4/2004 5:11:04 PM (3159 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/5/2004 11:20:11 AM (3217 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/5/2004 1:49:35 PM (3239 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/5/2004 5:26:12 PM (3192 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/5/2004 5:39:52 PM (3244 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Scott Perry/PA
7/5/2004 9:45:45 PM (3168 views)
Keep BUSH IN!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 12:46:19 PM (3187 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Robert Franco/OH
7/6/2004 1:32:32 PM (3068 views)
Rising Rates! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 2:08:43 PM (3066 views)
Re: Rising Rates! - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/6/2004 6:01:17 PM (4248 views)
Re: Rising Rates! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/7/2004 7:38:53 PM (2946 views)
Unemployment - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/7/2004 7:43:12 PM (3065 views)
Re: Unemployment - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/8/2004 11:14:10 AM (3178 views)
Re: Unemployment - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/8/2004 11:43:00 AM (2965 views)
Re: Unemployment - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/8/2004 11:00:17 PM (3062 views)

HOT LIST... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/2/2004 10:42:01 PM (1383 views)

Happy 4th!!! - Ellen/MO
7/2/2004 4:39:43 PM (1776 views)
Re: Happy 4th!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
7/2/2004 5:06:12 PM (3266 views)
Re: Happy 4th!!! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/2/2004 5:45:08 PM (3204 views)
Re: Happy 4th!!! - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/2/2004 6:15:03 PM (3158 views)
Re: Happy 4th!!! - Jay Duncan
7/2/2004 7:52:33 PM (3164 views)

ATC - Accelerated Title Co - Teresa Beeman/NC
7/2/2004 10:24:33 AM (1991 views)
Re: ATC - Accelerated Title Co - Barbara Bennett/IN
7/2/2004 2:56:20 PM (3288 views)

to the best contact person, happy b-day - monica froese/ME
7/1/2004 10:20:23 PM (1521 views)

Order your NALTEA Business Cards for your... - National Assoc of Land Title Examiners and Abstrac/OH
7/1/2004 7:32:09 PM (1521 views)


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