Register
Log In
Forget your Password?

Home
Directory
Bulletins
Forums
Blogs
Articles
Links
Classifieds
About Us
Contact Us
Advertise
FAQ
Privacy Policy


Discussion
<< get older messagesget newer messages >>
to post a message: login - or - register | search messages | hide all replies



Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/3/2004 10:32:04 AM (1798 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/3/2004 11:17:53 AM (3274 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/3/2004 11:21:19 AM (3261 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/3/2004 2:01:17 PM (3273 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/3/2004 6:36:19 PM (3229 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/4/2004 10:08:24 AM (3150 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/4/2004 11:39:15 AM (3185 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/4/2004 1:20:04 PM (3223 views)
Kurts Training!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 1:06:10 PM (3242 views)
Re: Kurts Training!!! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/6/2004 4:53:02 PM (3244 views)
Who CAME after you? - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 9:27:34 AM (3137 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Loretta Reed/MD
7/7/2004 9:35:04 AM (3250 views)
MD has some Crazy Laws - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 10:45:15 AM (3252 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/7/2004 1:05:22 PM (3085 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Jay Duncan
7/7/2004 1:18:50 PM (3168 views)
Re: Kurts Training!!! - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/7/2004 5:52:19 PM (3245 views)
Re: Incorporate - Robert Franco/OH
7/7/2004 10:24:47 AM (3105 views)
Re: Incorporate - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 10:41:35 AM (3239 views)
Re: Incorporate - Loretta Reed/MD
7/7/2004 1:40:02 PM (3121 views)
Re: Incorporate - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 3:23:05 PM (3109 views)
Re: Incorporate - Amanda Packey/FL
7/7/2004 3:33:33 PM (3183 views)
Thank You Amanda!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 4:02:16 PM (3047 views)
Re: Thank You Amanda!!! - Amanda Packey/FL
7/7/2004 4:08:18 PM (3191 views)
Re: Incorporate - kevin ahern/CT
7/8/2004 7:08:59 AM (3112 views)
Re: Incorporate - Robert Franco/OH
7/8/2004 2:38:24 PM (3042 views)
Re: Incorporate (PA) - Annette Dorty/PA
7/8/2004 4:08:32 PM (3072 views)
Re: Incorporate (PA) - kevin ahern/CT
7/9/2004 5:27:30 AM (3117 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Robert Franco/OH
7/4/2004 2:21:30 PM (3063 views)

I hate to get involved in this conversation, but I think it is an important topic.  "Newbie Bashing" is not a good thing, and I don't want to blame the "newbies" for some of the problems in the industry - because they don't know the problems that are being caused by their lack of training.  I believe that there are a lot of well intentioned abstractors, very new to the field, who were led down this path by someone else.

The best advice for someone who wants to be an independent abstractor is to work for a title company or attorney for a couple of years (and that may not be enough).  The only way to become a good abstractor is to gain experience... the only way to gain expereince without causing a lot of problems and incurring a huge amount of liability is to have someone knowledgeable in the field review your work and explain "WHY" you should or shouldn't show certian items.  Good training is extremely important!!

For example... when you are searching a property that recently came out of foreclosure with liens still showing open you have to know when lis pendens applies.  Some liens may survive the suit, others may be extiguished. When you have a deed that wasn't notarized properly, what is the statutory requirement that will cure the defect?  There are so many things that you really can't be prepared for, unless you have come across them before and had someone there to properly explain them when they do arise.  That takes a lot of time - and a good teacher.

It is easy for someone to say, "just find the deed and look for any liens", but there is so much more to it than that.  As rates begin to rise and more forclosures are filed, many cliams will be generated.  It is going to be a scary time for a lot of abstractors and insurers.

I have also spoken with a few E&O insurers regarding discounts for NALTEA members and the answer was always the same... "there are a lot of new abstractors that haven't been properly trained entering the field."  This is ONE of the causes of the higer rates, but I'm sure there are other forces at work also.

Source of Title gets a lot of e-mail asking "how do I become an abstractor?" and I always tell them the same thing - get a job with a title company or attorney that has sufficent resources to train you properly.  Anyone who wants to be an abstractor, without the necessary training, can get into the field, but they should be aware of the requirements of the job and fully understand the liability associated with it.  Missing one mortgage, federal tax lien, life estate, or anything else could cost you your home!  Most of us can't afford to pay a $100,000 claim and the rising E&O rates should be an indication of the liability involved.

A final note:  the Source of Title message forums are for everyone, newbies and seasoned abstractors alike, but newbies won't always like the responses they get.  They shouldn't be taken as "hostile" or "bashing" but as a wanring that there is a lot of responsibility involved with abstracting.  Peoples homes, the single largest investment they make, are riding on your ability to perform your duties as an abstractor.  Those who have been trained for years before becoming independent are frustrated with the abstractors that don't think they need to be properly trained or aren't aware of the training that they didn't get.  Some of them simply do not realize how much they do not know.

Best to everyone,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

to post a reply: login - or - register


Re: Newbie bashing - James Guill/VA
7/4/2004 3:56:18 PM (3064 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/4/2004 5:11:04 PM (3015 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/5/2004 11:20:11 AM (3058 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/5/2004 1:49:35 PM (3083 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/5/2004 5:26:12 PM (3025 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/5/2004 5:39:52 PM (3081 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Scott Perry/PA
7/5/2004 9:45:45 PM (3007 views)
Keep BUSH IN!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 12:46:19 PM (3034 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Robert Franco/OH
7/6/2004 1:32:32 PM (2911 views)
Rising Rates! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 2:08:43 PM (2910 views)
Re: Rising Rates! - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/6/2004 6:01:17 PM (4068 views)
Re: Rising Rates! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/7/2004 7:38:53 PM (2803 views)
Unemployment - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/7/2004 7:43:12 PM (2893 views)
Re: Unemployment - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/8/2004 11:14:10 AM (2966 views)
Re: Unemployment - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/8/2004 11:43:00 AM (2824 views)
Re: Unemployment - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/8/2004 11:00:17 PM (2777 views)

HOT LIST... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/2/2004 10:42:01 PM (1345 views)

Happy 4th!!! - Ellen/MO
7/2/2004 4:39:43 PM (1725 views)
Re: Happy 4th!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
7/2/2004 5:06:12 PM (3136 views)
Re: Happy 4th!!! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/2/2004 5:45:08 PM (3052 views)
Re: Happy 4th!!! - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/2/2004 6:15:03 PM (2996 views)
Re: Happy 4th!!! - Jay Duncan
7/2/2004 7:52:33 PM (3006 views)

ATC - Accelerated Title Co - Teresa Beeman/NC
7/2/2004 10:24:33 AM (1963 views)
Re: ATC - Accelerated Title Co - Barbara Bennett/IN
7/2/2004 2:56:20 PM (3157 views)

to the best contact person, happy b-day - monica froese/ME
7/1/2004 10:20:23 PM (1479 views)




Order your NALTEA Business Cards for your... - National Assoc of Land Title Examiners and Abstrac/OH
7/1/2004 7:32:09 PM (1481 views)

National Equity Services - Michelle/NJ
7/1/2004 7:26:55 PM (2035 views)
Re: National Equity Services - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/1/2004 7:49:38 PM (3438 views)

Service Link out of PA? - Douglas Johnson/MN
7/1/2004 4:48:55 PM (2052 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Loretta Reed/MD
7/1/2004 5:40:03 PM (3597 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/1/2004 6:06:46 PM (3530 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Robert Franco/OH
7/1/2004 6:17:57 PM (3556 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Douglas Johnson/MN
7/2/2004 1:20:34 PM (3369 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Ken Ungarsohn/NJ
7/16/2009 10:39:19 AM (7043 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - CLEOFI BLASS/NJ
7/2/2004 2:01:11 PM (3463 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/2/2004 6:17:23 PM (3470 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - CLEOFI BLASS/NJ
7/6/2004 12:27:33 PM (3521 views)
Too bad...their loss!! - Scott Perry/PA
7/6/2004 10:16:23 PM (3394 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Patricia Palmer/PA
7/7/2004 5:35:43 PM (3593 views)

Abstractor Associations - National Assoc of Land Title Examiners and Abstrac/OH
6/30/2004 5:58:21 PM (2456 views)
Re: Abstractor Associations - Angelica DelliCarpini/IN
6/30/2004 7:56:55 PM (3349 views)
Re: Abstractor Associations - Jay Duncan/MO
6/30/2004 9:17:08 PM (3226 views)
Re: Abstractor Associations - Jay Duncan/MO
6/30/2004 9:33:33 PM (4178 views)

?? Pricing the mileage ?? - Patty Bolden/TX
6/30/2004 4:29:58 PM (1881 views)
Re: ?? Pricing the mileage ?? - Patty Bolden/TX
7/5/2004 11:20:25 AM (3165 views)
Re: ?? Pricing the mileage ?? - Robert Franco/OH
7/6/2004 3:29:09 PM (3240 views)

NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF TITLE PROS - julie jasiunas/WI
6/30/2004 12:42:13 PM (1985 views)
Re: NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF TITLE PROS - Amanda Packey/FL
6/30/2004 3:58:00 PM (3325 views)
Re: NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF TITLE PROS - Scott Fisher/TN
6/30/2004 6:20:12 PM (3190 views)
Re: NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF TITLE PROS - monica froese/ME
6/30/2004 9:51:39 PM (3239 views)
Re: NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF TITLE PROS - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/1/2004 1:40:28 AM (3495 views)
Re: NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF TITLE PROS - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/2/2004 9:38:23 PM (3252 views)
Re: NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF TITLE PROS - monica froese/ME
7/2/2004 9:50:35 PM (3104 views)
Unsolicitated Facsimiles - R M/NJ
6/30/2004 10:21:50 PM (4209 views)
Re: Unsolicitated Facsimiles - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/2/2004 9:43:36 PM (3137 views)

PRICING - L ROLAND/CA
6/26/2004 12:48:44 PM (1933 views)
Re: PRICING - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/26/2004 2:46:19 PM (3350 views)
Re: PRICING - Robert Franco/OH
6/28/2004 10:01:34 AM (3346 views)
Re: PRICING - kevin ahern/CT
6/28/2004 6:03:59 AM (3224 views)
Re: PRICING - L ROLAND/CA
6/28/2004 9:35:52 PM (3237 views)
Re: PRICING - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/28/2004 11:09:59 PM (3203 views)
SET THE PRICE! - Kurt deVries/FL
6/29/2004 12:13:32 PM (3314 views)
Re: SET THE PRICE! - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/29/2004 8:50:09 PM (3326 views)
Re: SET THE PRICE! - Loretta Reed/MD
6/30/2004 10:09:00 AM (3307 views)
Re: SET THE PRICE! - Kurt deVries/FL
6/30/2004 10:36:53 AM (3246 views)
Re: SET THE PRICE! - Loretta Reed/MD
6/30/2004 11:29:01 AM (3276 views)
Re: SET THE PRICE! - Tracey/NJ
6/30/2004 4:37:44 PM (3213 views)
Re: SET THE PRICE! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/1/2004 9:38:25 AM (3297 views)
Re: SET THE PRICE! - Tracey/NJ
7/1/2004 11:39:38 AM (3225 views)
Re: SET THE PRICE! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/1/2004 2:23:37 PM (3145 views)
Re: SET THE PRICE! - Tracey/NJ
7/1/2004 7:04:24 PM (3231 views)
Monmouth Tracy - Kurt deVries/FL
7/2/2004 11:10:39 AM (3227 views)
Re: Monmouth Tracy - Tracey/NJ
7/2/2004 4:36:21 PM (3196 views)

Companies - Teresa Beeman/NC
6/25/2004 1:34:39 PM (1949 views)
Re: Companies - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/26/2004 12:53:19 AM (3207 views)
Re: Companies - Tammy Elliott/WA
6/26/2004 4:14:20 AM (3171 views)

RE: HOT LIST - Loretta Reed/MD
6/25/2004 10:31:53 AM (1543 views)

6/25...Happy B-Day to...... - R M/NJ
6/25/2004 10:25:29 AM (1937 views)
Re: 6/25...Happy B-Day to...... - Robert Franco/OH
6/25/2004 11:03:53 AM (3401 views)
Re: 6/25...Happy B-Day to...... - Jay Duncan/MO
6/25/2004 2:44:02 PM (3131 views)
Re: 6/25...Happy B-Day to...... - Douglas Gallant/OH
6/25/2004 4:28:57 PM (3207 views)
Re: 6/25...Happy B-Day to...... - Melissa Strang/ME
6/25/2004 4:29:22 PM (3207 views)
Re: 6/25...Happy B-Day to...... - Patty Bolden/TX
6/26/2004 3:40:11 PM (3149 views)


<< get older messagesget newer messages >>

DISCLAIMER: These Message Forums are un-moderated and Source of Title does not endorse the content of any of the posts. Source of Title discourages libelous comments and you, as the sole creator of the content, take full responsibility for your remarks.
Directory

The Source of Title Business directory has 8973 listed companies.

Leave feedback on a company:
SOT ID #:  learn more...
DRN Title Search
Blogs

Read other users' blogs-- or start your own!

Most Recent Blog Posts:

What Is Title Insurance & Benefits
Michael Stelzer's Blog
2026/03/14
0 comments

The Source of Title - Part I: Freedom Written, Freedom Insured
Ben DuBay's Blog
2026/02/15
0 comments

Shared Driveway Agreements
Marissa Berends's Blog
2025/12/10
0 comments

Articles

Source of Title articles help to keep you informed on the state of the title industry.

Title Resources Group Welcomes New Regional Manager
Title Resources Group, one of the nation's leading title insurance underwriters, is pleased to welcome Jalila Dado as Re...
Q1 GDP Commentary from MBA's Mike Fratantoni
“Inflation jumped higher during the quarter, with the PCE index increasing at a 4.5 percent annualized rate, up fr...
MBA Annual Report Finds Total Commercial Real Estate Borrowing and Lending Increased 40 Percent in 2025
“As capital markets conditions stabilized in 2025, there was a meaningful rebound in commercial real estate lendin...
Mortgage Applications Decrease in Latest MBA Weekly Survey
“Mortgage rates increased slightly last week, with the 30-year fixed rate rising to 6.37 percent. The increase in ...
First American Title Introduces AgentNet® Assist: Title Intelligence, an AI-Powered Document Analysis Capability
“This AI-assisted capability streamlines repetitive, time-intensive tasks, helping reduce processing time by as mu...

Search Articles:
browse...

Classifieds

Buy, sell, or trade! Browse the ads or post your own!

© 2020, Source of Title.