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Listing order - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/3/2004 1:56:39 AM (1559 views)
Re: Listing order - Robert Franco/OH
6/3/2004 11:40:47 AM (2599 views)

Best Wishes On Conference - Jan Forster/NC
6/2/2004 9:21:09 PM (1894 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - monica froese/ME
6/2/2004 10:16:02 PM (2861 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Judy Nisonger/CA
6/2/2004 11:53:13 PM (2884 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Slade Smith/GA
6/2/2004 11:57:46 PM (2803 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Loretta Reed/MD
6/3/2004 8:13:44 AM (2763 views)
Re: Best Wishes (one more thing) - Loretta Reed/MD
6/3/2004 8:17:40 AM (2715 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Judy Nisonger/CA
6/3/2004 3:04:31 PM (2863 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Robert Franco/OH
6/3/2004 11:11:39 AM (2764 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Bill Elliott/NC
6/4/2004 6:33:01 PM (2763 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Loretta Reed/MD
6/4/2004 7:01:53 PM (2680 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Bill Elliott/NC
6/4/2004 7:24:18 PM (2751 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Loretta Reed/MD
6/6/2004 10:32:58 AM (2754 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Douglas Gallant/OH
6/6/2004 3:01:34 PM (2674 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Bill Elliott/NC
6/6/2004 5:52:17 PM (2662 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Robert Franco/OH
6/6/2004 10:36:55 PM (2773 views)

Advice? - David Nixon/MA
6/2/2004 10:20:30 AM (1716 views)
Re: Advice? - Robert Franco/OH
6/2/2004 2:40:32 PM (2660 views)
Re: Advice? - Jay Duncan
6/2/2004 3:11:37 PM (2624 views)
Re: Advice? - Judy Nisonger/CA
6/2/2004 4:47:55 PM (2675 views)
Re: Advice? - Robert Franco/OH
6/2/2004 5:35:50 PM (2618 views)
Re: Advice? - Judy Nisonger/CA
6/2/2004 11:32:59 PM (2616 views)

Re: Conference - Loretta Reed/MD
6/2/2004 7:51:22 AM (1582 views)
Re: Conference - Robert Franco/OH
6/2/2004 10:09:08 AM (2595 views)

E&O Insurance - Jessica Marshall/NY
6/1/2004 10:22:15 PM (1582 views)
Re: E&O Insurance - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/2/2004 12:12:16 AM (2735 views)




memorial day.., - monica froese/ME
5/31/2004 12:36:48 AM (1269 views)

Where is Scott? - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/30/2004 3:46:43 PM (1290 views)

The NALTEA Solution, cont... - Robert Franco/OH
5/30/2004 12:49:13 PM (1636 views)
Re: The NALTEA Solution, cont... - Len Page/MA
5/30/2004 10:31:09 PM (2769 views)
Re: The NALTEA Solution, cont... - Robert Franco/OH
5/31/2004 5:42:35 PM (2749 views)

Just to set the record straight! - Len Page/MA
5/30/2004 4:17:55 AM (1810 views)
Re: Just to set the record straight! - Kristi Lee/NE
6/2/2004 12:41:26 PM (2963 views)

Data Retrieval - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/28/2004 7:41:12 PM (1699 views)
Re: Data Retrieval - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 11:10:16 PM (2941 views)
Re: Data Retrieval - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/29/2004 5:55:29 AM (2921 views)
Re: Data Retrieval - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/30/2004 7:44:16 PM (2941 views)
Re: Data Retrieval - Judy Nisonger/CA
6/1/2004 4:49:14 AM (2882 views)

not working tonight...part 2 - monica froese/ME
5/28/2004 4:51:57 PM (1545 views)
Re: not working tonight...part 2 - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/28/2004 6:54:00 PM (2735 views)

THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 3:15:35 AM (1699 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION, part 1 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 9:41:10 AM (2975 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 2 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 9:56:13 AM (3010 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 10:18:33 AM (2866 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - David Bloys
5/28/2004 11:43:16 AM (2984 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 12:36:02 PM (2883 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - David Bloys
5/28/2004 2:31:42 PM (2922 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 3:14:04 PM (2991 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 3:21:56 PM (2844 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Douglas Gallant/OH
5/28/2004 4:08:12 PM (2901 views)
Re: My small comments - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/30/2004 8:00:51 PM (2971 views)
Re: My small comments - Robert Franco/OH
5/31/2004 5:46:00 PM (2879 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 11:03:17 AM (2886 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 12:57:23 PM (2930 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 1:37:03 PM (2897 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 2:55:15 PM (2970 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 3:12:22 PM (3004 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 3:32:57 PM (2900 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 3:56:08 PM (2903 views)
Bottom Line - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 6:05:20 PM (2897 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/29/2004 9:56:31 AM (2804 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Slade Smith/OH
5/29/2004 12:24:43 PM (2800 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/29/2004 1:52:47 PM (2801 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Jay Duncan
5/29/2004 2:28:05 PM (2752 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Slade Smith/OH
5/29/2004 3:26:56 PM (2696 views)
Bottom Line - David Bloys/TX
5/29/2004 6:49:00 PM (2739 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Douglas Gallant/OH
5/29/2004 4:46:33 PM (2788 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/29/2004 8:35:16 PM (2777 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Slade Smith/OH
5/30/2004 2:52:13 AM (2784 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/29/2004 6:22:28 PM (2742 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys/TX
5/29/2004 7:48:48 PM (2757 views)

I don't assume this at all Judy. In fact, I assume that you are doing just what you said you are doing, trying to make a living.

You are not a Charlatan, neither are you an abstractor. You may be some day, maybe even a great one.

Do you remember when you first came on this site a couple of months ago? You were asking for a mentor. You knew then that you were not qualified to accept orders as an abstractor. You knew that you needed help and you made an honest appeal here for that help.

You may not believe me now but I was considering offering you whatever help I could in a private email. I checked out your web site and found your claim of being not only a abstractor, but an insured abstractor with many years of experience. Curious to me why you would so honestly and humbly seek a mentor here on SOT while telling potential clients that you were in fact already an insured abstractor with many years of experience. So I checked out your listing here on SOT only to find that here you not only claimed all the above but added "a coach to abstractors".

If you were all of these things you obviously did not need a mentor. In fact, wouldn't "a coach to abstractors" be very similar to a mentor? So I never sent that email offer.

I watched to when you posted that you were just trying to make a living and did not intend to take business from anyone. I believed you were sincere but couldn't see the logic of your statement. Where did you think your clients would be coming from? The clients we serve are already being served by someone. Most likely someone with years of experience and satifactory service. What would you offer these clients that they were not already being given? The living you were trying to make could only come from the living someone else had built over many years. You cannot offer the same service the experienced abstractors are already giving. Eventually, no matter how well intentioned and honest you may be you will be forced to either make claims you cannot back up or offer undercut fees to compensate for your lack of experience.

My advice to you had I sent that email would have been to either gain the experience you need by working for an experienced abstractor, title company or attorney. If this was not an option you might have done document retrieval or data acquisition until you gained enough experience to feel comfortable doing a few of the less demanding searches if you let your client know in advance that you were inexperienced. Your clients might have even helped you if they knew in advance that you had really never done this type of work before.

Yes, there always be new people claiming to be abstractors. They will come and they will go. I've seen many over the years. The ones who stay are usually the ones who treat their clients honestly and professionally. The ones who go leave in their wake confusion about what an abstractor is and the service we provide. Clients are often left with large lawsuits resulting from their belief in a new "abstractor" who wasn't an abstractor and now never will be.

Now, the new people claiming to be qualified abstractors need not even be in the same county as the experienced abstractors. They don't even have to be in the same country according to the offshore outsource companies. After all, they are just "new abstractors" too. Just trying to make a living and not wanting to take business away from anyone.

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Re: Bottom Line - monica froese/ME
5/29/2004 9:56:04 PM (2650 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/30/2004 12:46:59 AM (2684 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/30/2004 3:58:09 AM (2694 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Bill Elliott/NC
6/5/2004 4:37:09 PM (2684 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - kevin ahern/CT
5/29/2004 6:44:12 AM (2785 views)

I know it is called Source of Title but... - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/27/2004 10:09:38 PM (1691 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - Slade Smith/OH
5/28/2004 2:02:23 AM (3621 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/28/2004 12:12:10 PM (2771 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 10:22:57 AM (2771 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - kevin ahern/CT
5/29/2004 6:46:13 AM (2723 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/29/2004 6:25:19 PM (2591 views)

watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - monica froese/ME
5/27/2004 9:28:39 PM (1525 views)
Re: watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - Jay Duncan
5/27/2004 9:35:44 PM (2507 views)
Re: watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - monica froese/ME
5/27/2004 10:03:58 PM (2455 views)
Re: watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 8:34:32 AM (2471 views)

WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Cleofi Blass/NJ
5/27/2004 7:46:47 AM (1782 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Jay Duncan
5/27/2004 8:56:37 AM (2736 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - David Bloys/TX
5/27/2004 9:43:31 AM (2643 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/27/2004 11:27:51 AM (2613 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/27/2004 10:55:17 PM (2553 views)
Nothing - IMHO - David Nixon/MA
5/27/2004 11:44:26 AM (2619 views)
Re: Nothing - IMHO - Jay Duncan
5/27/2004 3:00:02 PM (2614 views)
Re: Nothing - IMHO - Angelica DelliCarpini/IN
5/27/2004 9:49:57 PM (2507 views)
David a reminder? - Len Page/MA
5/30/2004 3:16:07 AM (2496 views)
Re: David a reminder? - David Nixon/MA
6/2/2004 1:09:57 PM (2405 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Douglas Gallant/OH
5/27/2004 4:57:18 PM (2501 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - kevin ahern/CT
5/27/2004 7:15:05 PM (2452 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Angelica DelliCarpini/IN
5/27/2004 9:47:45 PM (2485 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/27/2004 10:05:28 PM (2438 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/28/2004 2:31:42 PM (2475 views)
Re: Hey Kurt............ - Loretta Reed/MD
5/29/2004 8:13:14 AM (2483 views)
Re: Hey Kurt......One more thing...... - Loretta Reed/MD
5/29/2004 8:16:03 AM (2491 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - MARC DAVIS/NY
5/31/2004 4:17:13 PM (2494 views)


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