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THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 3:15:35 AM (1982 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION, part 1 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 9:41:10 AM (3857 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 2 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 9:56:13 AM (3907 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 10:18:33 AM (3748 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - David Bloys
5/28/2004 11:43:16 AM (3918 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 12:36:02 PM (3771 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - David Bloys
5/28/2004 2:31:42 PM (3869 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 3:14:04 PM (3880 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 3:21:56 PM (3732 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Douglas Gallant/OH
5/28/2004 4:08:12 PM (3779 views)
Re: My small comments - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/30/2004 8:00:51 PM (3844 views)
Re: My small comments - Robert Franco/OH
5/31/2004 5:46:00 PM (3799 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 11:03:17 AM (3744 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 12:57:23 PM (3864 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 1:37:03 PM (3842 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 2:55:15 PM (3843 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 3:12:22 PM (3938 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 3:32:57 PM (3760 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 3:56:08 PM (3864 views)
Bottom Line - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 6:05:20 PM (3741 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/29/2004 9:56:31 AM (3710 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Slade Smith/OH
5/29/2004 12:24:43 PM (3731 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/29/2004 1:52:47 PM (3762 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Jay Duncan
5/29/2004 2:28:05 PM (3665 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Slade Smith/OH
5/29/2004 3:26:56 PM (3602 views)
Bottom Line - David Bloys/TX
5/29/2004 6:49:00 PM (3713 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Douglas Gallant/OH
5/29/2004 4:46:33 PM (3710 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/29/2004 8:35:16 PM (3692 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Slade Smith/OH
5/30/2004 2:52:13 AM (3691 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/29/2004 6:22:28 PM (3580 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys/TX
5/29/2004 7:48:48 PM (3615 views)

I don't assume this at all Judy. In fact, I assume that you are doing just what you said you are doing, trying to make a living.

You are not a Charlatan, neither are you an abstractor. You may be some day, maybe even a great one.

Do you remember when you first came on this site a couple of months ago? You were asking for a mentor. You knew then that you were not qualified to accept orders as an abstractor. You knew that you needed help and you made an honest appeal here for that help.

You may not believe me now but I was considering offering you whatever help I could in a private email. I checked out your web site and found your claim of being not only a abstractor, but an insured abstractor with many years of experience. Curious to me why you would so honestly and humbly seek a mentor here on SOT while telling potential clients that you were in fact already an insured abstractor with many years of experience. So I checked out your listing here on SOT only to find that here you not only claimed all the above but added "a coach to abstractors".

If you were all of these things you obviously did not need a mentor. In fact, wouldn't "a coach to abstractors" be very similar to a mentor? So I never sent that email offer.

I watched to when you posted that you were just trying to make a living and did not intend to take business from anyone. I believed you were sincere but couldn't see the logic of your statement. Where did you think your clients would be coming from? The clients we serve are already being served by someone. Most likely someone with years of experience and satifactory service. What would you offer these clients that they were not already being given? The living you were trying to make could only come from the living someone else had built over many years. You cannot offer the same service the experienced abstractors are already giving. Eventually, no matter how well intentioned and honest you may be you will be forced to either make claims you cannot back up or offer undercut fees to compensate for your lack of experience.

My advice to you had I sent that email would have been to either gain the experience you need by working for an experienced abstractor, title company or attorney. If this was not an option you might have done document retrieval or data acquisition until you gained enough experience to feel comfortable doing a few of the less demanding searches if you let your client know in advance that you were inexperienced. Your clients might have even helped you if they knew in advance that you had really never done this type of work before.

Yes, there always be new people claiming to be abstractors. They will come and they will go. I've seen many over the years. The ones who stay are usually the ones who treat their clients honestly and professionally. The ones who go leave in their wake confusion about what an abstractor is and the service we provide. Clients are often left with large lawsuits resulting from their belief in a new "abstractor" who wasn't an abstractor and now never will be.

Now, the new people claiming to be qualified abstractors need not even be in the same county as the experienced abstractors. They don't even have to be in the same country according to the offshore outsource companies. After all, they are just "new abstractors" too. Just trying to make a living and not wanting to take business away from anyone.

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Re: Bottom Line - monica froese/ME
5/29/2004 9:56:04 PM (3566 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/30/2004 12:46:59 AM (3603 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/30/2004 3:58:09 AM (3633 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Bill Elliott/NC
6/5/2004 4:37:09 PM (3555 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - kevin ahern/CT
5/29/2004 6:44:12 AM (3657 views)

I know it is called Source of Title but... - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/27/2004 10:09:38 PM (1993 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - Slade Smith/OH
5/28/2004 2:02:23 AM (4681 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/28/2004 12:12:10 PM (3724 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 10:22:57 AM (3660 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - kevin ahern/CT
5/29/2004 6:46:13 AM (3639 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/29/2004 6:25:19 PM (3464 views)

watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - monica froese/ME
5/27/2004 9:28:39 PM (1809 views)
Re: watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - Jay Duncan
5/27/2004 9:35:44 PM (3389 views)
Re: watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - monica froese/ME
5/27/2004 10:03:58 PM (3376 views)
Re: watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 8:34:32 AM (3381 views)

WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Cleofi Blass/NJ
5/27/2004 7:46:47 AM (2052 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Jay Duncan
5/27/2004 8:56:37 AM (3674 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - David Bloys/TX
5/27/2004 9:43:31 AM (3482 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/27/2004 11:27:51 AM (3575 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/27/2004 10:55:17 PM (3493 views)
Nothing - IMHO - David Nixon/MA
5/27/2004 11:44:26 AM (3557 views)
Re: Nothing - IMHO - Jay Duncan
5/27/2004 3:00:02 PM (3572 views)
Re: Nothing - IMHO - Angelica DelliCarpini/IN
5/27/2004 9:49:57 PM (3338 views)
David a reminder? - Len Page/MA
5/30/2004 3:16:07 AM (3457 views)
Re: David a reminder? - David Nixon/MA
6/2/2004 1:09:57 PM (3287 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Douglas Gallant/OH
5/27/2004 4:57:18 PM (3404 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - kevin ahern/CT
5/27/2004 7:15:05 PM (3391 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Angelica DelliCarpini/IN
5/27/2004 9:47:45 PM (3424 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/27/2004 10:05:28 PM (3417 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/28/2004 2:31:42 PM (3442 views)
Re: Hey Kurt............ - Loretta Reed/MD
5/29/2004 8:13:14 AM (3450 views)
Re: Hey Kurt......One more thing...... - Loretta Reed/MD
5/29/2004 8:16:03 AM (3448 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - MARC DAVIS/NY
5/31/2004 4:17:13 PM (3389 views)

HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Abstractor Conference
5/24/2004 9:02:57 PM (2085 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - monica froese/ME
5/24/2004 9:27:04 PM (3401 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Jay Duncan
5/24/2004 10:11:42 PM (3433 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/25/2004 5:35:19 PM (3361 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Robert Franco/OH
5/25/2004 5:42:03 PM (3487 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Jay Duncan/MO
5/25/2004 6:23:28 PM (3466 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Jessica Marshall/NY
5/25/2004 8:35:09 PM (3422 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Jay Duncan
5/25/2004 11:53:06 PM (3447 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/26/2004 5:59:01 AM (3526 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Robert Franco/OH
5/26/2004 10:26:29 AM (3547 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/26/2004 9:16:23 PM (3460 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Jay Duncan
5/27/2004 8:43:44 AM (3494 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - kevin ahern/CT
5/26/2004 6:36:25 AM (3479 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Robert Franco/OH
5/26/2004 10:34:46 AM (3430 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - David Bloys
5/26/2004 3:29:37 PM (3445 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Robert Franco/OH
5/26/2004 4:59:29 PM (3444 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - David Bloys
5/26/2004 6:24:04 PM (3557 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Robert Franco/OH
5/27/2004 11:21:12 AM (3460 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - kevin ahern/CT
5/27/2004 7:10:22 PM (3426 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/27/2004 9:56:31 PM (3325 views)




happy b-day doug - monica froese/ME
5/22/2004 6:48:29 PM (1414 views)

Hey there Slade! - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/22/2004 5:33:38 PM (1862 views)
Searching by name - Slade Smith/GA
5/23/2004 12:22:27 AM (3678 views)
Re: Searching by name - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/23/2004 11:48:09 AM (3532 views)
Re: Searching by name - Jay Duncan
5/23/2004 11:30:32 PM (3699 views)
Re: Searching by name - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/24/2004 12:54:06 AM (3564 views)

FYI >>>> - MARC DAVIS/NY
5/22/2004 12:51:32 PM (1546 views)

digital camera copies - Susan Raynard/MA
5/22/2004 9:12:09 AM (1877 views)
Re: digital camera copies - MARC DAVIS/NY
5/22/2004 12:39:13 PM (3596 views)
Re: digital camera copies - Susan Raynard/MA
5/22/2004 2:30:00 PM (3749 views)
Re: digital camera copies - Alan Voorheis
5/22/2004 2:28:07 PM (3613 views)
Re: digital camera copies - Susan Raynard/MA
5/22/2004 2:35:59 PM (3652 views)
Re: digital camera copies - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/22/2004 5:16:23 PM (3683 views)
Re: digital camera copies - monica froese/ME
5/22/2004 6:56:03 PM (3725 views)
Re: digital camera copies - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/23/2004 11:54:36 AM (3723 views)
Susan a ? - Len Page/MA
5/30/2004 3:12:50 AM (3658 views)

not workin' tonight - monica froese/ME
5/21/2004 9:05:22 PM (1848 views)
Re: not workin' tonight - Scott Perry/PA
5/21/2004 10:08:22 PM (3546 views)
OH MY GOODNESS - Loretta Reed/MD
5/21/2004 10:41:17 PM (3700 views)
Re: not workin' tonight - Melissa Strang/ME
5/22/2004 4:53:26 PM (3688 views)
Re: not workin' tonight - kevin ahern/CT
5/22/2004 7:31:56 AM (3563 views)
Re: not workin' tonight - MARC DAVIS/NY
5/22/2004 12:42:01 PM (3632 views)
Re: not workin' tonight - Douglas Gallant/OH
5/22/2004 3:40:25 PM (3562 views)
Re: not workin' tonight - Slade Smith/GA
5/23/2004 1:02:43 AM (3602 views)
Re: not workin' tonight - Douglas Gallant/OH
5/23/2004 9:56:20 PM (3649 views)
Re: not workin' tonight - monica froese/ME
5/24/2004 6:48:47 PM (3498 views)

p.s.... - monica froese/ME
5/21/2004 8:08:24 PM (1465 views)

Chesapeake Title - kevin ahern/CT
5/21/2004 7:50:30 AM (2055 views)
Re: Chesapeake Title - Jay Duncan/MO
5/21/2004 4:18:12 PM (3933 views)
Re: Chesapeake Title - kevin ahern/CT
5/22/2004 7:27:40 AM (3716 views)

IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - MARC DAVIS/NY
5/21/2004 6:15:45 AM (2061 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - Phyllis Agan/GA
5/21/2004 8:53:05 AM (3829 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/24/2004 3:31:23 PM (3912 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - Jay Duncan
5/24/2004 5:35:45 PM (3713 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/25/2004 1:15:13 PM (3704 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - Jay Duncan
5/25/2004 2:18:47 PM (3790 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - MARC DAVIS/NY
5/31/2004 4:45:02 PM (3858 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - James Guill/VA
5/29/2004 6:15:59 PM (3825 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - David Bloys
5/29/2004 8:23:07 PM (3870 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - MARC DAVIS/NY
5/31/2004 4:40:02 PM (3711 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - Len Page/MA
5/30/2004 3:38:57 AM (3719 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - MARC DAVIS/NY
5/31/2004 4:28:13 PM (3832 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - John OConnor/IL
6/2/2004 4:53:24 PM (3636 views)

variations...on a theme...or vacations - monica froese/ME
5/19/2004 9:04:35 PM (1847 views)
Re: variations...on a theme...or vacations - Loretta Reed/MD
5/19/2004 9:41:01 PM (5443 views)
Re: variations...on a theme...or vacations - monica froese/ME
5/19/2004 10:22:12 PM (3698 views)

i am now a criminal... - monica froese/ME
5/18/2004 8:25:21 PM (1998 views)
Re: i am now a criminal... - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/18/2004 8:38:10 PM (3705 views)
Re: i am now a criminal... - Scott Perry/PA
5/18/2004 10:35:45 PM (3614 views)
Re: i am now a criminal... - monica froese/ME
5/19/2004 12:14:53 AM (3608 views)


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