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HTML - CLEOFI BLASS/NJ
6/3/2004 12:27:20 PM (2093 views)
Re: HTML - Slade Smith/OH
6/3/2004 12:52:27 PM (3694 views)

Listing order - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/3/2004 1:56:39 AM (1857 views)
Re: Listing order - Robert Franco/OH
6/3/2004 11:40:47 AM (3669 views)

Best Wishes On Conference - Jan Forster/NC
6/2/2004 9:21:09 PM (2236 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - monica froese/ME
6/2/2004 10:16:02 PM (3925 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Judy Nisonger/CA
6/2/2004 11:53:13 PM (3984 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Slade Smith/GA
6/2/2004 11:57:46 PM (3979 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Loretta Reed/MD
6/3/2004 8:13:44 AM (3904 views)
Re: Best Wishes (one more thing) - Loretta Reed/MD
6/3/2004 8:17:40 AM (3830 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Judy Nisonger/CA
6/3/2004 3:04:31 PM (3973 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Robert Franco/OH
6/3/2004 11:11:39 AM (3931 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Bill Elliott/NC
6/4/2004 6:33:01 PM (4002 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Loretta Reed/MD
6/4/2004 7:01:53 PM (3874 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Bill Elliott/NC
6/4/2004 7:24:18 PM (3898 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Loretta Reed/MD
6/6/2004 10:32:58 AM (3857 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Douglas Gallant/OH
6/6/2004 3:01:34 PM (3753 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Bill Elliott/NC
6/6/2004 5:52:17 PM (3768 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Robert Franco/OH
6/6/2004 10:36:55 PM (3927 views)

Advice? - David Nixon/MA
6/2/2004 10:20:30 AM (2065 views)
Re: Advice? - Robert Franco/OH
6/2/2004 2:40:32 PM (3835 views)
Re: Advice? - Jay Duncan
6/2/2004 3:11:37 PM (3755 views)
Re: Advice? - Judy Nisonger/CA
6/2/2004 4:47:55 PM (3751 views)
Re: Advice? - Robert Franco/OH
6/2/2004 5:35:50 PM (3808 views)
Re: Advice? - Judy Nisonger/CA
6/2/2004 11:32:59 PM (3699 views)

Re: Conference - Loretta Reed/MD
6/2/2004 7:51:22 AM (1885 views)
Re: Conference - Robert Franco/OH
6/2/2004 10:09:08 AM (3711 views)




E&O Insurance - Jessica Marshall/NY
6/1/2004 10:22:15 PM (1905 views)
Re: E&O Insurance - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/2/2004 12:12:16 AM (3814 views)

memorial day.., - monica froese/ME
5/31/2004 12:36:48 AM (1513 views)

Where is Scott? - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/30/2004 3:46:43 PM (1591 views)

The NALTEA Solution, cont... - Robert Franco/OH
5/30/2004 12:49:13 PM (1989 views)
Re: The NALTEA Solution, cont... - Len Page/MA
5/30/2004 10:31:09 PM (3869 views)
Re: The NALTEA Solution, cont... - Robert Franco/OH
5/31/2004 5:42:35 PM (3858 views)

Just to set the record straight! - Len Page/MA
5/30/2004 4:17:55 AM (2194 views)
Re: Just to set the record straight! - Kristi Lee/NE
6/2/2004 12:41:26 PM (4128 views)

Data Retrieval - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/28/2004 7:41:12 PM (2094 views)
Re: Data Retrieval - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 11:10:16 PM (4108 views)
Re: Data Retrieval - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/29/2004 5:55:29 AM (4114 views)
Re: Data Retrieval - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/30/2004 7:44:16 PM (4013 views)
Re: Data Retrieval - Judy Nisonger/CA
6/1/2004 4:49:14 AM (3914 views)

not working tonight...part 2 - monica froese/ME
5/28/2004 4:51:57 PM (1961 views)
Re: not working tonight...part 2 - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/28/2004 6:54:00 PM (3758 views)

THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 3:15:35 AM (2037 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION, part 1 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 9:41:10 AM (4038 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 2 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 9:56:13 AM (4085 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 10:18:33 AM (3925 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - David Bloys
5/28/2004 11:43:16 AM (4103 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 12:36:02 PM (3938 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - David Bloys
5/28/2004 2:31:42 PM (4025 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 3:14:04 PM (4034 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 3:21:56 PM (3896 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Douglas Gallant/OH
5/28/2004 4:08:12 PM (3935 views)
Re: My small comments - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/30/2004 8:00:51 PM (4029 views)
Re: My small comments - Robert Franco/OH
5/31/2004 5:46:00 PM (3993 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 11:03:17 AM (3937 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 12:57:23 PM (4026 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 1:37:03 PM (3995 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 2:55:15 PM (4006 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 3:12:22 PM (4095 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 3:32:57 PM (3932 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 3:56:08 PM (4031 views)
Bottom Line - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 6:05:20 PM (3909 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/29/2004 9:56:31 AM (3848 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Slade Smith/OH
5/29/2004 12:24:43 PM (3865 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/29/2004 1:52:47 PM (3953 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Jay Duncan
5/29/2004 2:28:05 PM (3848 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Slade Smith/OH
5/29/2004 3:26:56 PM (3744 views)
Bottom Line - David Bloys/TX
5/29/2004 6:49:00 PM (3864 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Douglas Gallant/OH
5/29/2004 4:46:33 PM (3873 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/29/2004 8:35:16 PM (3853 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Slade Smith/OH
5/30/2004 2:52:13 AM (3842 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/29/2004 6:22:28 PM (3732 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys/TX
5/29/2004 7:48:48 PM (3753 views)

I don't assume this at all Judy. In fact, I assume that you are doing just what you said you are doing, trying to make a living.

You are not a Charlatan, neither are you an abstractor. You may be some day, maybe even a great one.

Do you remember when you first came on this site a couple of months ago? You were asking for a mentor. You knew then that you were not qualified to accept orders as an abstractor. You knew that you needed help and you made an honest appeal here for that help.

You may not believe me now but I was considering offering you whatever help I could in a private email. I checked out your web site and found your claim of being not only a abstractor, but an insured abstractor with many years of experience. Curious to me why you would so honestly and humbly seek a mentor here on SOT while telling potential clients that you were in fact already an insured abstractor with many years of experience. So I checked out your listing here on SOT only to find that here you not only claimed all the above but added "a coach to abstractors".

If you were all of these things you obviously did not need a mentor. In fact, wouldn't "a coach to abstractors" be very similar to a mentor? So I never sent that email offer.

I watched to when you posted that you were just trying to make a living and did not intend to take business from anyone. I believed you were sincere but couldn't see the logic of your statement. Where did you think your clients would be coming from? The clients we serve are already being served by someone. Most likely someone with years of experience and satifactory service. What would you offer these clients that they were not already being given? The living you were trying to make could only come from the living someone else had built over many years. You cannot offer the same service the experienced abstractors are already giving. Eventually, no matter how well intentioned and honest you may be you will be forced to either make claims you cannot back up or offer undercut fees to compensate for your lack of experience.

My advice to you had I sent that email would have been to either gain the experience you need by working for an experienced abstractor, title company or attorney. If this was not an option you might have done document retrieval or data acquisition until you gained enough experience to feel comfortable doing a few of the less demanding searches if you let your client know in advance that you were inexperienced. Your clients might have even helped you if they knew in advance that you had really never done this type of work before.

Yes, there always be new people claiming to be abstractors. They will come and they will go. I've seen many over the years. The ones who stay are usually the ones who treat their clients honestly and professionally. The ones who go leave in their wake confusion about what an abstractor is and the service we provide. Clients are often left with large lawsuits resulting from their belief in a new "abstractor" who wasn't an abstractor and now never will be.

Now, the new people claiming to be qualified abstractors need not even be in the same county as the experienced abstractors. They don't even have to be in the same country according to the offshore outsource companies. After all, they are just "new abstractors" too. Just trying to make a living and not wanting to take business away from anyone.

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Re: Bottom Line - monica froese/ME
5/29/2004 9:56:04 PM (3718 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/30/2004 12:46:59 AM (3758 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/30/2004 3:58:09 AM (3825 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Bill Elliott/NC
6/5/2004 4:37:09 PM (3712 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - kevin ahern/CT
5/29/2004 6:44:12 AM (3806 views)

I know it is called Source of Title but... - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/27/2004 10:09:38 PM (2041 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - Slade Smith/OH
5/28/2004 2:02:23 AM (4922 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/28/2004 12:12:10 PM (3903 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 10:22:57 AM (3850 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - kevin ahern/CT
5/29/2004 6:46:13 AM (3826 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/29/2004 6:25:19 PM (3641 views)

watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - monica froese/ME
5/27/2004 9:28:39 PM (1878 views)
Re: watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - Jay Duncan
5/27/2004 9:35:44 PM (3544 views)
Re: watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - monica froese/ME
5/27/2004 10:03:58 PM (3565 views)
Re: watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 8:34:32 AM (3544 views)


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