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Need Contact Information - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
3/9/2007 11:18:29 AM (1877 views)

[+] E&O Insurance - how much needed - Greg M/NJ (5 replies)
3/8/2007 3:00:13 PM (2384 views)

[+] Title Issue - Kevin Ahern/CT (1 reply)
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[+] Sub-prime lenders - Kevin Ahern/CT (4 replies)
3/4/2007 11:23:04 AM (3260 views)

[+] Info on Fleet Abstracts, INC ? ? - george Hubka/MI (1 reply)
3/3/2007 3:47:39 PM (2597 views)




[+] iMortgage Services - Brad McCollom/IN (3 replies)
3/2/2007 6:41:23 PM (2276 views)

[-] Eclipse payments - Wayne Schutt II/NY (33 replies)
3/2/2007 8:20:00 AM (2519 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/2/2007 8:29:38 AM (2687 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Robb Grandon/OH
3/2/2007 9:38:28 AM (2637 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/2/2007 9:55:37 AM (2639 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Wayne Schutt II/NY
3/2/2007 2:42:07 PM (2596 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Wayne Schutt II/NY
3/2/2007 2:10:19 PM (2585 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/2/2007 4:48:06 PM (2560 views)
Re: Eclipse payments- Bank loan???? - george Hubka/MI
3/2/2007 8:34:04 PM (2587 views)
Re: Eclipse payments- Bank loan???? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
3/3/2007 5:00:47 PM (2602 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Wayne Schutt II/NY
3/3/2007 4:45:49 PM (2527 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/3/2007 6:07:21 PM (2529 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Scott Perry/PA
3/3/2007 11:22:19 PM (2524 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/4/2007 3:35:26 AM (2471 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - george Hubka/MI
3/4/2007 9:16:28 AM (2527 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Scott Perry/PA
3/4/2007 2:32:54 PM (2519 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Scott Perry/PA
3/4/2007 2:21:26 PM (2412 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/4/2007 2:32:32 PM (2491 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Scott Perry/PA
3/4/2007 2:33:38 PM (2525 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/4/2007 3:01:34 PM (2669 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Scott Perry/PA
3/4/2007 8:30:48 PM (2576 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/5/2007 11:16:26 AM (2550 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Scott Perry/PA
3/5/2007 11:26:10 AM (2511 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Patrick Tarr/NE
3/7/2007 12:36:24 PM (2394 views)
I, for one, am perfectly happy having Kevin be my spokesperson on an issue such as this.  All he did was ask a perfectly reasonable, legitimate question.  I think this is most definately the proper forum for companies, especially newer ones, to state their exact payment policies.  I am tired of "manning up" and calling companies in private, only to be lied to.  Six different people can call the same company six different times and be given six different answers.  It would be nice for companies to post here so that everyone is being told the same thing.  

It certainly seems like Wayne is being very forthright and has the best intentions.  I have no reason to doubt him and I personally believe he intends to do his very best to make sure we are taken care of.  

That being said, there are two seeds of doubt that I am sure most of us have:

The first is that he had a relationship with a company that has had numerous payment issues.  He has acknowledged this and has stated that he wants to do things better so that never happens with his company.  I admire and respect that of him.  As I stated, I have no reason to doubt him.  I dont think he should have to pay for "the sins of the father", so to speak.  So this doesnt really bother me.

The second aspect is that it is a relatively new business.  I think this aspect is at the heart of Kevin's question.  When dealing with a new business, I would like to know how good of a footing they are on.  When I started out, I knew that I had to be able to pay my bills for a few months before I could count on being paid.  This is the question for Eclipse.  Do they have a financial reserve at start up to pay their bills, regardless of whether their clients have paid them?  Or are they just paying as they get paid?  If it is the latter, then their company is a house of cards just waiting to collapse. If this is the case, then it wouldnt matter what Wayne's intentions are, because it is out of his hands.  All it would take is one of his clients to slow-pay or no-pay him and it would start a chain reaction.  This is what Kevin is trying to find out- for all of us.  No one is attacking Wayne.  I would be more than willing to give Wayne a chance if I can find out that I will get paid no matter what-- even if his clients stiff him-- within 30 days.  And no, I am not going to call and ask personally.  Any answer to a business question that someone can say to me personally can be answered in his forum, so that we all know we are getting the same answer.  

 I do feel for Wayne.  Starting up a business in this environment is tough.  So many of us have had problems recently it has made us jaded and guarded.  I am now to the point that I would rather just get by with a few rock-solid clients than over-extend myself with clients I may never get paid from.  A couple of years ago it was no big deal waiting an extra 30 days or writing off an order here or there.  There was more volume and the bottom line was still pretty good.  Now too many clients have been taking advantage of that "extra 30 days" or simply not paying until they are damn good and ready, if at all, and it is getting to be a pretty good-sized piece of the pie!  The mortgage company, utilities, credit card companies, etc.,  wont give me an extra 30 days without charging me a bunch of fees.  My bank wont let me write bad checks just because I say I will pay them back in 30 days.  Yet we are expected to continually front our time and money with little or no guarantee that we will ever get paid, while constantly being pressured to lower (or at least not raise) our fees.

So if Kevin, or anyone else,  wants to question a company about it's payment policies, etc., I will stand with them and wait for an answer.  Any good company should have no problem coming on this message board and explaining themselves, in full, for the whole community to see.  After all, WE are the ones that stand to lose out.  WE are the ones who put money out of our pockets first.  WE are the ones financing these companies.  WE are entitled to answers! 

 

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Re: Eclipse payments - Robert Franco/OH
3/7/2007 12:41:39 PM (2415 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Patrick Tarr/NE
3/7/2007 2:28:52 PM (2417 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Robert Franco/OH
3/7/2007 3:26:42 PM (2304 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Scott Perry/PA
3/7/2007 2:08:12 PM (2449 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Patrick Tarr/NE
3/7/2007 3:47:43 PM (2359 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Deborah Manion/VA
3/4/2007 5:09:44 PM (2482 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Scott Perry/PA
3/4/2007 8:33:44 PM (2381 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - J Nisonger/CA
3/9/2007 9:20:39 PM (4014 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - george Hubka/MI
3/26/2007 5:48:03 PM (2288 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - J Nisonger/CA
3/26/2007 6:20:00 PM (2254 views)
Re: Eclipse payments - Sandra Morton/KS
3/5/2007 9:15:07 AM (2507 views)

[+] E-mail mistakes you don't want to make. - Ethics/OH (1 reply)
3/1/2007 4:42:02 PM (3056 views)

[+] Texas AG abatement - Robert Franco/OH (1 reply)
3/1/2007 4:40:40 PM (2030 views)

Legislative CALL TO ACTION re Attorney General opinion on public records - David Bloys/TX
2/28/2007 1:21:12 AM (2593 views)

[+] non payers - Hannah McGinnis/IN (2 replies)
2/27/2007 10:51:54 PM (2135 views)

Texas Atty Gen, Greg Abbott - Jan Forster/NC
2/27/2007 7:42:49 PM (1641 views)

[+] Resource/Clear Tract - Dorothy Payne/NY (4 replies)
2/27/2007 5:53:30 PM (2119 views)

[+] Eclipse Title - Hannah McGinnis/IN (1 reply)
2/27/2007 2:17:04 PM (2013 views)

Patriot Title LLC - Joseph Hess/PA
2/27/2007 11:31:03 AM (1850 views)


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