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First Choice Title Services? - Lisa Dahlquist/NC
10/22/2008 2:22:00 PM (3984 views)
Re: First Choice Title Services? - Becky Cantrall/NC
10/22/2008 4:20:58 PM (4689 views)
Re: First Choice Title Services? - Robert Battle/NC
10/27/2008 1:16:01 PM (4367 views)

modification companies - michael quinn/NY
10/21/2008 8:42:23 PM (3812 views)
Re: modification companies - . APS/NY
10/21/2008 9:42:51 PM (4497 views)
Re: modification companies - michael quinn/NY
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Re: modification companies - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: modification companies - michael quinn/NY
10/22/2008 5:27:22 PM (4337 views)
Re: modification companies - Jay Duncan/MO
10/23/2008 10:03:50 AM (4351 views)

Work picking up? - Mandy Harmon/SC
10/21/2008 4:25:13 PM (3701 views)
Re: Work picking up? - Smitty Strickland/SC
10/24/2008 5:23:49 PM (4500 views)

I am curious about other states. - Diane Cipa/PA
10/21/2008 11:57:54 AM (3626 views)
Re: I am curious about other states. - Patrick Scott/IL
10/21/2008 10:48:20 PM (4464 views)
Re: I am curious about other states. - Diane Cipa/PA
10/22/2008 11:13:15 AM (4561 views)
Re: I am curious about other states. - LORIE LEHMAN/PA
10/27/2008 12:52:59 PM (4255 views)
Re: I am curious about other states. - Diane Cipa/PA
10/28/2008 3:48:48 PM (4187 views)
Re: I am curious about other states. - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/29/2008 2:05:39 PM (6619 views)

A Look On The Bright Side - Scott Perry/PA
10/21/2008 12:11:44 AM (3672 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Diane Cipa/PA
10/22/2008 11:14:54 AM (4218 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Kurt deVries/FL
10/22/2008 11:28:39 AM (4125 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - john rutledge/VA
10/27/2008 9:34:29 AM (4097 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Scott Perry/PA
10/27/2008 12:45:32 PM (4007 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Thomas Conrad/PA
10/28/2008 2:32:10 PM (3800 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Patrick/NY
10/28/2008 2:48:50 PM (3856 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/28/2008 4:59:05 PM (3777 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Christopher Slone/KY
10/29/2008 12:13:44 AM (3815 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Jean Allen/NC
10/29/2008 11:35:42 AM (3834 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/29/2008 2:09:10 PM (3839 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Scott Perry/PA
10/29/2008 4:04:45 PM (3853 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Jack Johanson/PA
10/29/2008 5:21:44 PM (3737 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Scott Perry/PA
10/29/2008 6:15:57 PM (3799 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Jack Johanson/PA
10/30/2008 10:29:24 AM (3701 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Scott Perry/PA
10/30/2008 11:16:53 AM (3734 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Thomas Conrad/PA
11/18/2008 10:48:44 AM (3658 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Scott Perry/PA
11/18/2008 2:56:58 PM (3667 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Helene /GA
10/29/2008 8:41:31 PM (3688 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Jack Johanson/PA
11/3/2008 11:15:33 AM (3720 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Scott Perry/PA
11/5/2008 2:00:08 PM (3712 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Clanci Nelson/OH
11/5/2008 3:09:15 PM (3701 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Scott Perry/PA
11/5/2008 11:18:38 PM (3747 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Clanci Nelson/OH
11/6/2008 12:37:14 PM (3718 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Helene /GA
11/6/2008 9:29:43 PM (3673 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Clanci Nelson/OH
11/7/2008 12:54:56 PM (3641 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - michael quinn/NY
11/7/2008 6:24:23 PM (3673 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Clanci Nelson/OH
11/12/2008 9:17:51 AM (3735 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - michael quinn/NY
11/12/2008 6:04:20 PM (3615 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - michael quinn/NY
11/18/2008 2:53:19 AM (3603 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Scott Perry/PA
11/18/2008 12:13:44 PM (3706 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Helene /GA
11/12/2008 8:07:21 PM (3672 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
11/12/2008 2:23:43 PM (3771 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Clanci Nelson/OH
11/12/2008 2:55:10 PM (3629 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - michael quinn/NY
11/12/2008 5:45:25 PM (3655 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Scott Perry/PA
11/12/2008 11:44:12 PM (3573 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Clanci Nelson/OH
11/13/2008 9:51:42 AM (3583 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Clanci Nelson/OH
11/13/2008 11:57:06 AM (5944 views)


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Tax Sales & John Beck - Helene /GA
10/20/2008 10:47:46 PM (3644 views)
Re: Tax Sales & John Beck - Elizabeth Helman/PA
10/21/2008 6:42:25 PM (4265 views)
Re: Tax Sales & John Beck - Diana Little/MS
10/27/2008 11:54:41 AM (4126 views)
Re: Tax Sales & John Beck - Helene /GA
10/29/2008 9:16:49 PM (3910 views)

Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - Angela Johnson/NC
10/20/2008 3:55:42 PM (3959 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - Michael Vernon/AZ
10/21/2008 2:58:17 AM (4899 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - Loretta Reed/MD
10/21/2008 7:39:31 AM (4528 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/21/2008 8:03:17 AM (4424 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - Thomas Conrad/PA
10/21/2008 9:42:00 AM (4364 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - J Nisonger/CA
10/21/2008 9:24:27 PM (4529 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - robbin roseberry/OH
10/22/2008 3:10:49 PM (4463 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - sharon biltcliffe/CT
10/23/2008 7:14:23 PM (4425 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
10/23/2008 7:25:51 PM (4375 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - Kenneth/TX
10/24/2008 4:51:06 PM (4460 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a chec - Michael O'Brien/NJ
10/28/2008 6:50:24 PM (4094 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - Michael Morton/MI
10/27/2008 10:55:54 AM (4234 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - Edward Huguenin/SC
10/27/2008 5:06:15 PM (4206 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - george Hubka/MI
10/27/2008 7:22:42 PM (4121 views)

Fax and Phone Vendors? - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
10/18/2008 2:08:31 PM (3739 views)
Re: Fax and Phone Vendors? - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2008 3:39:22 PM (4258 views)
Re: Fax and Phone Vendors? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
10/18/2008 3:52:03 PM (4379 views)
Re: Fax and Phone Vendors? - Robert Franco/OH
10/18/2008 4:09:49 PM (7775 views)
Re: Fax and Phone Vendors? - J Nisonger/CA
10/18/2008 10:55:46 PM (4252 views)
Re: Fax and Phone Vendors? - Helene/GA
10/19/2008 12:11:01 AM (4341 views)
Re: Fax and Phone Vendors? - Keith Edwards/NY
10/20/2008 1:41:58 AM (4495 views)
Re: Fax and Phone Vendors? - S SEE/SC
10/20/2008 8:44:50 AM (4296 views)
Re: Fax and Phone Vendors? - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/20/2008 9:29:53 AM (4158 views)
Re: Fax and Phone Vendors? - Bill Garrett/MS
10/20/2008 1:27:55 PM (4266 views)

Input on Integration 4.0 - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
10/18/2008 2:03:02 PM (3419 views)
Re: Input on Integration 4.0 - Robert Battle/NC
10/27/2008 1:09:38 PM (3985 views)

Leeches are still out there! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/17/2008 10:54:45 AM (3795 views)
Re: Leeches are still out there! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/17/2008 12:43:44 PM (4508 views)
Re: Leeches are still out there! - Robert Franco/OH
10/17/2008 1:31:52 PM (4456 views)
Re: Leeches are still out there! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/17/2008 5:06:56 PM (4294 views)
Re: Leeches are still out there! - Kimberly Gray/AR
10/17/2008 1:55:00 PM (4371 views)
Re: Leeches are still out there! - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/17/2008 3:13:37 PM (4289 views)
Re: Leeches are still out there! - Robert Breakell/CT
10/17/2008 4:12:06 PM (4301 views)
Re: Leeches are still out there! - Jean Allen/NC
10/17/2008 5:13:04 PM (4305 views)
Re: Leeches are still out there! - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
10/19/2008 11:06:32 AM (4228 views)
Re: Leeches are still out there! - Gary Capello/OH
10/27/2008 9:03:44 AM (4245 views)
Re: Leeches are still out there! - Miriam Rolles/IN
10/27/2008 1:08:45 PM (4003 views)

Social Security & DL info in recordings - Glenda Hodge/TN
10/16/2008 5:58:46 PM (3237 views)
Social Security, DL & medical information - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
10/17/2008 8:21:35 AM (4133 views)
Re: Social Security & DL info in recordings - David Bloys/TX
10/19/2008 4:25:51 AM (4056 views)
Re: Social Security & DL info in recordings - george Hubka/MI
10/22/2008 3:31:33 AM (4037 views)
Re: Social Security & DL info in recordings - Scott Perry/PA
10/22/2008 6:52:45 AM (4024 views)

Washington Mutual Thief amoung us! - Miriam Shoaff/IN
10/16/2008 10:40:45 AM (5313 views)
Re: Washington Mutual Thief amoung us! - Dave Pell/GA
10/16/2008 10:55:54 AM (4667 views)
Re: Washington Mutual Thief amoung us! - Miriam Shoaff/IN
10/16/2008 11:13:02 AM (4572 views)
Re: Washington Mutual Thief amoung us! - Mason Haas/NY
10/16/2008 1:46:43 PM (7358 views)
Re: Washington Mutual Thief amoung us! - Miriam Shoaff/IN
10/16/2008 5:49:43 PM (4458 views)
Re: Washington Mutual Thief amoung us! - Miriam Shoaff/IN
10/27/2008 1:37:32 PM (4257 views)

Government BailOut - Work???? - Scott Aduddell/MO
10/16/2008 10:03:06 AM (3357 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - J Nisonger/CA
10/17/2008 1:23:32 AM (3927 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Janis Talbot/SC
10/20/2008 8:12:44 AM (4151 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Scott Perry/PA
10/20/2008 9:26:27 AM (3920 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Kurt deVries/FL
10/20/2008 11:33:50 AM (3920 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Scott Perry/PA
10/20/2008 1:21:36 PM (3919 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Rob  Robinson/PA
10/20/2008 5:26:29 PM (3981 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Douglas Gallant/OH
10/20/2008 6:15:24 PM (3921 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2008 6:50:41 PM (3982 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Scott Perry/PA
10/20/2008 7:34:15 PM (3868 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - michael quinn/NY
10/21/2008 10:31:21 PM (3754 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Patrick Scott/IL
10/20/2008 8:52:36 PM (3803 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Scott Perry/PA
10/20/2008 9:53:06 PM (3681 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Robert Franco/OH
10/21/2008 12:21:25 AM (3812 views)

Good point.  But, to play devil's advocate for a moment, what about the 6th Amendment right to counsel?  That would be one example of a right to the service of another. 

6th Amendment
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district where in the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.

Quite arguably, the founders did not intend that to mean the right to a free lawyer, but the Supreme Court has had a more expansive view.  In the 1930's, attorneys were only provided in capital cases to those defendants who could not afford one and were not capable of defending themselves.  Then it was expanded to all defendants in federal courts who were too poor to hire an attorney.  Now it applies equally in state courts for any defendant facing jail time.

Of course, the attorneys get paid, so there is no involuntary servitude issue.  Same would apply to health care; we would not expect the doctors to actually work for free. The government would pick up the tab, just as it does for the attorneys.

I don't think you can quite get to involuntary servitude through taxation to pay for health care, either.  The Taxing and Spending Clause of Art. 1, sec. 8 allows the government to do just about anything with tax dollars.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States

That "general welfare" provision is pretty gosh darned broad.  If Congress were to decide that taxpayer funded health care was for the general welfare of the United States, I'm sure they could do it.  It wouldn't even have to be considered a fundamental right. 

Personally, I tend to agree with Pat, that health care is not a right.  However, the Supreme Court has recognized several rights that aren't specifically enumerated in the Constitution - such as the right to marry, the right to procreate, the freedom of movement, and when and where to acquire an education.  I don't think I would be shocked if they added health care to the list one of these days.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Patrick Scott/IL
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Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Kevin Ahern/CT
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WARNING: "Witty Retort" Alert--Read At Your Own Risk! - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: WARNING: "Witty Retort" Alert--Read At Your Own Risk! - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: WARNING: "Witty Retort" Alert--Read At Your Own Risk! - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: WARNING: "Witty Retort" Alert--Read At Your Own Risk! - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: WARNING: "Witty Retort" Alert--Read At Your Own Risk! - Anita Backlund/MN
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Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Kurt deVries/FL
10/22/2008 1:22:03 PM (3611 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Scott Perry/PA
10/22/2008 11:04:53 PM (3610 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Rob  Robinson/PA
10/23/2008 11:10:26 AM (3614 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Ray Young/GA
10/29/2008 9:21:59 AM (3441 views)

Beware of Mid-Atlantic Title - Bruce Murch/VA
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Re: Beware of Mid-Atlantic Title - Helene /GA
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Re: Beware of Mid-Atlantic Title - Dan Zook/NY
10/16/2008 10:02:04 AM (3974 views)

Can we file liens? - Kurt deVries/FL
10/15/2008 10:09:00 AM (3539 views)
Re: Can we file liens? - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/15/2008 10:29:51 AM (4083 views)


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