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[+] Legacy Title (Indiana) - Barbara Bennett/IN (1 reply)
12/17/2008 7:13:52 PM (3673 views)

[-] Remove Disclaimer ??? - Glenda Hodge/TN (49 replies)
12/17/2008 6:47:39 PM (3943 views)
Hold Your Ground - Scott Perry/PA
12/17/2008 11:21:13 PM (4082 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
12/18/2008 9:52:15 AM (4235 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - MW/IL
12/18/2008 11:51:21 AM (4027 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/19/2008 12:53:07 PM (3907 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2008 10:27:28 AM (4214 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 11:20:50 AM (3875 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
12/19/2008 1:08:43 PM (3800 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 8:00:10 PM (3854 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2008 1:26:48 PM (3841 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 3:17:38 PM (3757 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/20/2008 10:01:23 PM (3601 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/20/2008 10:14:12 PM (3782 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - J Nisonger/CA
12/27/2008 9:32:33 PM (3599 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Patricia Turley/MI
12/22/2008 6:34:06 AM (3794 views)
Is that really necessary? - Robert Franco/OH
12/22/2008 9:54:07 AM (3613 views)
A place for disclaimers - David Bloys/TX
12/22/2008 10:01:16 AM (4023 views)
Re: A place for disclaimers - William Pattison /CA
1/5/2009 12:33:33 PM (3583 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Nils Nelson/ME
12/22/2008 9:41:02 AM (3578 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Janis Talbot/SC
12/22/2008 10:51:09 AM (3617 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - John /FL
12/23/2008 3:41:07 PM (3826 views)
Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 2:08:44 AM (3746 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Dan Zook/NY
12/24/2008 8:44:35 AM (3530 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
12/24/2008 12:29:13 PM (3499 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 1:21:10 PM (3516 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
12/24/2008 1:46:55 PM (3681 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 2:13:15 PM (3651 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
12/25/2008 1:27:00 AM (5853 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/26/2008 10:00:55 AM (3481 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - J Nisonger/CA
12/27/2008 9:43:45 PM (3562 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/28/2008 1:03:26 AM (3553 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Dan Zook/NY
12/29/2008 11:36:35 AM (3474 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2008 11:43:18 AM (3435 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/30/2008 8:56:23 AM (3408 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - John /FL
12/24/2008 12:51:48 PM (3475 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 1:25:51 PM (3522 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - James "Lin" Toney/MS
12/30/2008 7:49:56 PM (3420 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/31/2008 2:49:09 PM (5614 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - stephen willard/OH
1/6/2009 7:17:22 AM (3455 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/6/2009 9:34:34 AM (3516 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/6/2009 5:02:27 PM (3383 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/7/2009 3:01:26 AM (3647 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/7/2009 12:39:23 PM (3427 views)

You bring up some good points.  It does appear that having E&O insurance makes you a "deep pocket" and may make it more likely that a client will go after you for your mistakes.  But, if you have assets (i.e., a home) you could still be sued and, without E&O, you could lose them.  We really haven't seen it happen much in the past, but with the huge losses the underwriters are facing they could start looking to collect from the abstractors who cause their losses.  The fact that the client has E&O insurance does not prevent you from getting sued.  When their E&O carrier pays the claim, they acquire subrogation rights against the abstractor and they could sue to recover their payout.  I'm surprised we haven't seen more of this, but I predict we will see it see it happen soon.

The article I posted (back in November 2004) does give the impression that the abstractor "might" have successfully limited his liability had he NOT had E&O.  (see Searcher Owes Insurer for Missed Lien) But, that is unclear.  His E&O policy was one factor the court looked at to determine whether the parties actually intended to make the disclaimer a part of their contract.  Whether or not the disclaimers are effective is not really known.  I suppose it depends a great deal on state laws.  It may work in some jurisdictions and not others.

There aren't a lot of cases out there.  First, if the abstractor carries E&O insurance the cases are often settled and you don't hear about them.  Second, if the abstractor doesn't carry E&O he may not have sufficient resources to pay a judgment and the suit is not worth pursuing.  I think the fact that many clients now require E&O, and some clients are told by their E&O carriers that they have to require that their abstractors carry E&O, shows that they are considering pursuing recourse against the abstractors.  If they start doing this, I would hate to be caught in a claims situation without coverage.  Maybe the disclaimer will hold up in court... maybe it won't.  That is not a chance I would want to take.

Ultimately, I believe that the abstractors should be liable for the losses they cause.  Perhaps if there were more suits against the abstractors, we would see many of the "fly-by-night" companies disappear.  If they had E&O, they wouldn't be able to afford it after a couple of claims, and if they didn't have it, they would not be able to afford the first claim they are hit with. 

Like I said, I know there is completely different mindset regarding E&O in New York.  I have spoken to several New York abstractors who told me that nobody carries the coverage.  We have never had to file a claim on our policy, but I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if we didn't have it.  Anyone can make a mistake and you never know when a client will decide to make an example of somebody.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/9/2009 11:50:36 PM (3412 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/10/2009 11:47:01 AM (3484 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
1/10/2009 1:52:55 PM (5517 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
1/10/2009 5:35:24 PM (3339 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/11/2009 1:58:20 AM (3331 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/6/2009 4:57:07 PM (3203 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/6/2009 5:14:49 PM (3241 views)

[+] Beware of Richmond Title - Virginia Capps/TN (7 replies)
12/15/2008 5:51:53 PM (3961 views)

[+] HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! - HEIDI CIMA/PA (3 replies)
12/12/2008 2:15:57 PM (3918 views)

[+] First American Doc Edge Software - ecenteno/NV (5 replies)
12/12/2008 12:17:28 PM (3958 views)


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[+] Letter sent re: deed copy for $$ - Clanci Nelson/OH (2 replies)
12/11/2008 10:50:53 AM (3660 views)

[+] C- Fax - Douglas Johnson/MN (3 replies)
12/11/2008 9:23:23 AM (3493 views)

[+] Please help stop the auction... - J Nisonger/CA (25 replies)
12/10/2008 9:28:13 PM (5282 views)

[+] Timios, Inc - Ken/AL (3 replies)
12/10/2008 6:02:13 PM (4382 views)

[+] Holiday Cheer! - Dan Zook/NY (5 replies)
12/10/2008 10:25:58 AM (3298 views)

[+] ESS Solutions, LLC - Christine Sheeler/PA (2 replies)
12/10/2008 7:06:08 AM (3583 views)

[+] LandAmerica - Barbara Bennett/IN (7 replies)
12/9/2008 5:40:32 PM (3917 views)

[+] EFS Bankrupcy & Debt Acquisition Co of America - Rebecca Fair/FL (4 replies)
12/9/2008 12:01:16 PM (6991 views)

[+] Is business still slow? - Greg M/NJ (7 replies)
12/8/2008 1:12:00 PM (3742 views)

Service agreement - Ray Young/GA
12/8/2008 11:22:16 AM (2917 views)


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