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Bulletins... - Robert Franco/OH
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Lenders First Choice - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Lenders First Choice - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Lenders First Choice - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Lenders First Choice - Matthew Hall/CA
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Re: Lenders First Choice - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
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Re: Lenders First Choice - J Nisonger/CA
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Best E-Recording Software Provider? - Matt Daly/WI
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Ameristar -- please settle an argument for me - Alix Ott/MI
2/6/2009 9:25:33 AM (3467 views)
Re: Ameristar -- please settle an argument for me - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Ameristar -- please settle an argument for me - Michelle/IL
2/6/2009 2:15:30 PM (2233 views)
Re: Ameristar -- please settle an argument for me - Wanda Steudel/OH
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American Title, inc. - Erin Carraway/NY
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Re: American Title, inc. - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
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Re: American Title, inc. - Erin Carraway/NY
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Re: American Title, inc. - Carl Ashford/CO
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Re: American Title, inc. - Sandra Morton/KS
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Re: American Title, inc. - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: American Title, inc. - Alix Ott/MI
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Re: American Title, inc. - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: American Title, inc. - Wendi See/SC
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Re: American Title, inc. - george Hubka/MI
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Re: American Title, inc. - Michael Vernon/AZ
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ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Cindy Thomas/NY
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Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Constance Foye/VA
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Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Greg Paszkiewicz/NJ
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Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - george Hubka/MI
2/25/2009 5:52:35 PM (2015 views)
Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Smitty Strickland/SC
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nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/5/2009 8:59:26 AM (3208 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
2/5/2009 10:47:19 AM (5343 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Jessica Talley/NJ
2/5/2009 2:22:14 PM (2451 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/5/2009 3:22:23 PM (2472 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/9/2009 2:44:32 PM (2479 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2009 2:52:37 PM (2364 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/9/2009 3:15:32 PM (2299 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - cindy thomas/NY
2/9/2009 5:02:31 PM (4734 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - nXt Generation Title Services, LLC/FL
2/10/2009 10:52:31 AM (2352 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/10/2009 12:58:43 PM (2399 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/12/2009 2:42:56 PM (2284 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/12/2009 2:20:01 PM (2124 views)

mortgage fraud - Sheila Sten/PA
2/4/2009 3:48:02 PM (2923 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: mortgage fraud - Sheila Sten/PA
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Re: mortgage fraud - J Nisonger/CA
2/7/2009 4:00:55 PM (2119 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - Sheila Sten/PA
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Off the beaten path - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
2/3/2009 10:36:52 PM (2833 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
2/3/2009 11:31:49 PM (2271 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Patrick Scott/IL
2/4/2009 12:01:44 AM (2258 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/4/2009 12:55:17 AM (2300 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2009 10:42:36 AM (2278 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 10:52:16 AM (2263 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/4/2009 11:18:23 AM (2109 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/5/2009 4:48:33 PM (2220 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/5/2009 7:43:44 PM (4672 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 10:09:45 AM (2004 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/6/2009 11:53:54 AM (2016 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 12:44:49 PM (1971 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/6/2009 1:51:09 PM (1988 views)
Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2009 1:09:11 PM (2201 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Scott Perry/PA
2/10/2009 3:26:30 AM (2009 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/10/2009 9:59:16 AM (1979 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
2/11/2009 1:07:54 PM (1916 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/11/2009 1:43:23 PM (1886 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/11/2009 4:48:23 PM (1906 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/12/2009 12:46:38 AM (1858 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/11/2009 5:06:23 PM (1913 views)
As I Was Saying... - Scott Perry/PA
2/16/2009 12:14:21 AM (1866 views)
Re: As I Was Saying... - Robert Franco/OH
2/16/2009 11:56:29 AM (1939 views)
Re: Commercial Activity Tax... - Robert Franco/OH
2/16/2009 3:04:27 PM (4404 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/6/2009 4:45:51 PM (2120 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/6/2009 6:17:30 AM (1958 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 10:03:24 AM (1966 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 10:47:54 AM (2138 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2009 11:06:18 AM (2044 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:10:33 AM (1947 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/4/2009 11:31:26 AM (2022 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:59:28 AM (2084 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/4/2009 3:28:50 PM (1899 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:21:39 AM (2007 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/5/2009 4:25:01 PM (2149 views)

reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michael Lanin/KY
2/3/2009 1:20:18 PM (2696 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Robert Franco/OH
2/3/2009 2:25:20 PM (2447 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michelle/IL
2/4/2009 1:18:59 PM (2073 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - J Nisonger/CA
2/5/2009 10:00:22 PM (2120 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michael Lanin/KY
2/6/2009 12:52:40 PM (2078 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - J Nisonger/CA
2/7/2009 3:56:45 PM (1991 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/12/2009 2:18:17 PM (1835 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
2/17/2009 9:17:45 AM (1937 views)

Title Assurance & Indemnity Corp. of NA Cleveland, OH - MIchael Lanin/KY
2/3/2009 1:01:36 PM (2085 views)

The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Edward Huguenin/SC
2/1/2009 8:20:52 AM (3128 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Wendi See/SC
2/1/2009 6:37:04 PM (2241 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Janis Talbot/SC
2/2/2009 9:11:46 AM (2449 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Wendi See/SC
2/2/2009 8:34:15 PM (2218 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Edward Huguenin/SC
2/3/2009 7:10:57 AM (2166 views)

What is considered slow pay? - no name/MI
1/30/2009 12:50:38 PM (2702 views)
Re: What is considered slow pay? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 12:59:33 PM (2284 views)
Re: What is considered slow pay? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 1:33:34 PM (2417 views)

Probate Question - Helene /GA
1/29/2009 11:50:27 PM (2615 views)
Re: Probate Question - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 6:52:39 AM (2295 views)
Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Robert Franco/OH
1/30/2009 9:28:41 AM (2408 views)

Ah... an excellent question that seemed so irrelevant when we studied this stuff in Property class a few years ago.  We just don't see this kind of odd-ball stuff very often.

I think that this might be a shifting executory interest, rather than a sprining executory interest.  But, I guess that would depend on how the conveyance is worded (it doesn't seem very clear to me).  A springing executory interest cuts short the grantor's interest, if a third party interest gets cut short, it is a shifting executory interest.  In this case, I get the impression that the title was conveyed to "M, but when J reaches the age of 25, then to J."  In that case, I believe that M has a fee simple interest subject to a condition subsequent - J attaining the age of 25 - and J. has a shifting executory interest, since if the condition is met it cuts short the interst of a third party, M. 

I believe that if J dies before reaching the age of 25, the executory interest terminates and M would have good title with no condition subsequent.  I think from an underwriting perspective, I would prefer to see an affidavit with an attached death certificate for J.  I don't think there would be a problem if there was something in the chain of title that clearly showed J's death before reaching the age of 25.

But, like Kevin said... this is pretty complicated and the best you can do is report your findings and let your client decide how to handle it.  It will depend on exactly how the conveyance was termed in the will.

What do you think, Kevin?  Am I understanding this well enough to pass the bar exam in July?

And, thank you so much Helene for posting such a wonderful question!  These are the kinds of topics I think we should be dicussing much more often on the forums.  We can all learn a lot from these types of exchanges.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 10:01:35 AM (2143 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Robert Franco/OH
1/30/2009 10:25:15 AM (2080 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 10:49:36 AM (2099 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Helene /GA
1/30/2009 10:38:14 PM (2206 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/31/2009 8:27:20 AM (2139 views)

Preview of Coming Attractions? - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 10:53:59 PM (4219 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 11:22:02 PM (2486 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 11:58:37 PM (2329 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 8:07:42 AM (2461 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/30/2009 8:15:04 AM (2433 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/30/2009 8:16:02 AM (2381 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Alix Ott/MI
2/2/2009 2:10:27 PM (2161 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 8:46:02 AM (2300 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 12:55:40 PM (2231 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - michael quinn/NY
2/1/2009 1:09:50 AM (2162 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/1/2009 6:01:27 AM (2237 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - WAYNE QUICK/NC
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