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Service Announcement! - Robert Franco/OH
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Industry Partners - Dan Zook/NY
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1099 - researcher ./VA
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Re: 1099 - Clanci Nelson/OH
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Re: 1099 - Clanci Nelson/OH
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Blog comments requested - Dave Pelligrinelli/GA
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Reliable Property Reports- Kansas - Susan McKee/WV
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Attention Vendor Managers... - Robert Franco/OH
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Bulletins... - Robert Franco/OH
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Lenders First Choice - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Lenders First Choice - martha campbell/VA
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Re: Lenders First Choice - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Lenders First Choice - Matthew Hall/CA
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Re: Lenders First Choice - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
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Re: Lenders First Choice - J Nisonger/CA
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Best E-Recording Software Provider? - Matt Daly/WI
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Ameristar -- please settle an argument for me - Alix Ott/MI
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Re: Ameristar -- please settle an argument for me - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Ameristar -- please settle an argument for me - Michelle/IL
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Re: Ameristar -- please settle an argument for me - Wanda Steudel/OH
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American Title, inc. - Erin Carraway/NY
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Re: American Title, inc. - Alix Ott/MI
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ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Scott Perry/PA
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nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/5/2009 8:59:26 AM (3220 views)
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Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
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Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
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Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
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Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - nXt Generation Title Services, LLC/FL
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Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
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Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Clanci Nelson/OH
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Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Clanci Nelson/OH
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mortgage fraud - Sheila Sten/PA
2/4/2009 3:48:02 PM (2930 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: mortgage fraud - Sheila Sten/PA
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Off the beaten path - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
2/3/2009 10:36:52 PM (2845 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
2/3/2009 11:31:49 PM (2283 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Patrick Scott/IL
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Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2009 10:42:36 AM (2287 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 10:52:16 AM (2277 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
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Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 10:09:45 AM (2017 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/6/2009 11:53:54 AM (2026 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 12:44:49 PM (1983 views)

I have looked into it and I don't think it is viable... there are too many problems.

  1. the middle class mostly spends more than they make.  We have a negative savings rate in this country.  At 30%, they would all lose out on the benefits of the graduated income tax, where the rate starts at only 10%.  Thus, most people who make between $30,000 and $200,000 would pay significantly higher taxes.  They wouldn't just pay tax on what they make, they would also pay tax on what they borrow and spend!
  2. There would certainly have to be exceptions for major purchases like homes - can you imagine what a 30% tax would do the housing market?
  3. Your crime analogy is flawed.... we would actually have more crime because those drug dealers you mention would diversify into stolen goods to be sold on the black market - with no taxes!  Just consider the bootleg cigarette market that sprung up after the cigarette tax was implemented.  And, what about all of the sales through E-bay and other online vendors - do you think they would charge a 30% tax?  Policing that would be just as burdensome as the current income tax - maybe more so.  Employers are much better at collecting income taxes than all of the vendors would be collecting sales tax.
  4. What about all of the people who have invested in Roth IRAs? They have already paid the tax on their retirement savings - they would be taxed AGAIN when they draw it out and spend it.  How is that for rewarding those that have planned for their retirement?  There is a similar problem with those who have invested in tax free muni-bonds and the like.
  5. The rich could still escape much of their tax burden by saving more - they are the only group that currently saves anything as it is.  And, if people save more, to cut their tax burden, the economy suffers.  As people spend less, the rate of the Fair Tax would be insufficient and it would have to go up - creating more of a burden on the middle class.  Those selling luxury items would be the hardest hit and many of the companies that make luxury goods would see sales decline and they would have to charge more for their products - making them even less appealing.  And, the middle class workers employed by these industries would suffer lob losses.  It would be a devastating cycle.
  6. How would the government function during economic recessions when unemployment rises and people spend less?  The Fair Tax would be much more volatile and it would make creating a balanced budget even more difficult. 

The Fair Tax is an appealing gimmick, but it is not really well thought out.  If you tried to make the Fair Tax workable and really fair - it would be just as complicated as the current income tax and it would still require a huge bureaucracy to police.

Sorry... I'm not a fan of it and I don't think we will ever see it.  If we tried it, I think we would end up trying to phase it in along side the income tax and we would end up having both.  We would never really be able to escape the income tax completely and we would just end up with two complicated tax systems.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
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Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Still makes no sense.... - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Still makes no sense.... - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
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Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Still makes no sense.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Still makes no sense.... - Douglas Gallant/OH
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As I Was Saying... - Scott Perry/PA
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