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Abstractor Fees - Tena Grice/TX
8/28/2009 11:40:47 PM (6690 views)
Re: Abstractor Fees - Wendi See/SC
8/29/2009 8:59:05 AM (4942 views)
Re: Abstractor Fees - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
8/29/2009 10:46:09 AM (4468 views)
Re: Abstractor Fees - Tena Grice/TX
8/29/2009 10:00:25 PM (4404 views)
Re: Abstractor Fees - William Pattison /CA
9/8/2009 11:38:32 AM (3971 views)

SOT maintenance notice - Slade Smith/OH
8/28/2009 1:45:08 PM (2994 views)

Abstractor Watchdog - Nils Nelson/ME
8/27/2009 6:32:24 PM (3936 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - Dan Zook/NY
8/28/2009 10:49:19 AM (4416 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
8/31/2009 9:31:00 PM (4235 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - Nils Nelson/ME
8/31/2009 11:07:15 PM (4130 views)

Service 1st Valuation and Settlement Services - VIVIAN SLYKER/OH
8/25/2009 3:16:23 PM (4111 views)
Re: Service 1st Valuation and Settlement Services - Nils Nelson/ME
8/26/2009 7:46:31 PM (5279 views)

Payment - Jana Urban-Buzek/OH
8/25/2009 12:15:50 PM (3770 views)
Re: Payment - Nils Nelson/ME
8/25/2009 1:46:44 PM (4310 views)


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Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - James Baker/AL
8/22/2009 10:18:57 PM (3946 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
8/23/2009 12:59:51 PM (4538 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - Wendi See/SC
8/23/2009 5:58:02 PM (4402 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
8/24/2009 12:06:39 AM (4449 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - john rutledge/VA
8/24/2009 10:40:25 PM (4256 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
8/25/2009 4:05:41 AM (4152 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - Heather Seymour/IN
8/25/2009 12:12:25 PM (4283 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - Wendi See/SC
8/23/2009 5:50:42 PM (4246 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - Ray Young/GA
8/24/2009 12:30:38 PM (4334 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - Wendi See/SC
8/24/2009 7:11:09 PM (4124 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - Jason/WV
8/24/2009 9:45:18 PM (4207 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - Ray Young/GA
9/2/2009 11:40:35 AM (4114 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - Janet Angi/MI
9/2/2009 6:52:11 PM (4011 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - Ray Young/GA
9/4/2009 4:55:10 PM (4056 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - James Baker/AL
8/25/2009 8:48:50 AM (4061 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
8/25/2009 10:56:04 AM (4092 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - Wendi See/SC
8/25/2009 8:22:06 PM (4153 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
8/26/2009 7:59:36 AM (4132 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - Dan Zook/NY
8/26/2009 8:23:46 AM (4103 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - Wendi See/SC
8/26/2009 4:15:04 PM (4264 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - Wendi See/SC
8/26/2009 4:23:44 PM (4268 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - James Baker/AL
8/26/2009 2:54:11 PM (4237 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - Wendi See/SC
8/26/2009 4:19:33 PM (4106 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
8/26/2009 8:07:58 PM (4125 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - Kurt deVries/FL
8/27/2009 12:00:11 PM (4217 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - Ron McPherson/IA
9/6/2009 10:05:26 PM (3972 views)
Re: Database Designed for Abstracting Companies - Eric Batz/MD
9/9/2009 11:20:40 AM (3955 views)

Fico Scores - Jack Johanson/PA
8/21/2009 3:29:25 PM (3446 views)
Re: Fico Scores - Robert Franco/OH
8/21/2009 3:51:57 PM (3991 views)
Re: Fico Scores - Jack Johanson/PA
8/21/2009 4:28:52 PM (4043 views)

Mortgage Fraud the new target! - David Chisolm/MS
8/20/2009 2:51:56 PM (4549 views)

      I ran across the most odd and intriguing title I have ran I believe ever, and I thought I would share it here. This was a typical 32 Year search for a HELOC. In the chain of title the current owner recieved tilte from a Mississippi, LLC., The chain came down good and all looked good. I get back to the office and go to the Mississippi Sec. of State website to run the LLC. I always do this to ensure that Voluntary Alienation of title took place and the conveyance was good, and therefore any voluntary encumbrances the Grantee may have given will also be good. I run the LLC that acted as the Grantor, and I found no results. I verified again it was a Mississippi, LLC. and ran it again, same thing no results found. I then ran the Officer' name under the search by Officer query, and again no results found. I then search all 50 States, and again "No results Found"! Now my interest is not only peaked but I am just foaming with Curiosity here. I contact the closing attorney on the original purchase and they provided me with the HUD-1. The first thing that jumps off of the page at me was the Mortgage Broker fee's were paid to a gentleman with the same name as that of the "alleged" Officer of this now to be found fictitious LLC. In Mississippi it only cost a mere $50.00 to open an LLC, LP, or LLP, why would anyone just make it up and not spend $50.00 to make it legit. I'll get back in a moment also to the Mortgage Broker and Officer signing at closing having the same last name, as it gets more interesting here.

      I drafted a Caveat and attached it to the title and submitted it to the requesting Client. In the Caveat I detailed how no title had passed at the original closing as there was not a Natural and Bona-Fide Authority making conveyance. In Mississippi as it is generally the rule everywhere, you must have a Grantor and a Grantee under the Treatise of Real Property Law here. The absence of a Grantor has now put the homeowner in a position of holding the property under 2 of the five elements of real property ownership, Hostile and Adverse; not Fee Simple. I then showed that the Voluntary Encumbrance as given by the Grantee at the closing table was also Jepordized as the Grantee never actually recieved any title and therefore did not hold the authority to make this conveyance.

      Now the interesting part, and hold your hat's for this one. As usual a claim was filed in this case and Civil Actions have blanketed the dockets in Chancery Court over every conveyance made by this Entity. Who got the claim you wonder, "THE ABSTRACTOR" that performed the search. The closing attorney was not the target of a claim, the Underwriting Dept of the Funding Comapny, just the poor starving to death Abstractor who simply ran the title for the original purchase. I find it also most interesting that the closing attorney was not pounded with a claim over this. It is not the duty of the Abstractor to assure that all parties to the contract are acting with good and proper authority. I see that as the job of the Underwriter that say's all id good and the Closing Agent that makes sure all is good. Only in America folks, Your thoughts on this matter are welcomed.

      I almost forgot the Mortgage Broker and Officer for the fictitious LLC having the same name, it's because they were one and the same person. Why didn't underwriting question this and why for sure didn't the closing attorney balk at this. The same guy walks away from the closing with 2 checks, one to him and one his sham corporation. I also wonder what is going to come from the Civil side of this with regards to the bank that allowed him to open an account and then draw from it under a fictitious LLC. Again, only in America!!!  Forgive any Type-O's I'm on the run.

David Chisolm

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Re: Mortgage Fraud the new target! - Patrick Scott/IL
8/22/2009 1:04:53 AM (4206 views)
Re: Mortgage Fraud the new target! - george Hubka/MI
8/22/2009 3:33:49 PM (4242 views)
Re: Mortgage Fraud the new target! - David Chisolm/MS
8/22/2009 3:48:17 PM (4083 views)
Re: Mortgage Fraud the new target! - Patrick Scott/IL
8/23/2009 2:13:55 AM (4046 views)

A big 'thank you' to the OAITA! - Robert Franco/OH
8/20/2009 9:58:47 AM (4582 views)
Re: A big 'thank you' to the OAITA! - Michaela Urban/OH
8/20/2009 11:27:53 AM (4007 views)
Re: A big 'thank you' to the OAITA! - Joyce Harper/OH
8/20/2009 3:55:10 PM (4019 views)
Re: A big 'thank you' to the OAITA! - OAITA/OH
8/24/2009 10:30:39 AM (6083 views)

A.I.T.F. Retrieval Services - Ray Glowniak/CA
8/19/2009 2:10:55 PM (4986 views)
Re: A.I.T.F. Retrieval Services - Ken Ungarsohn/NJ
8/20/2009 3:05:55 PM (4517 views)
Re: A.I.T.F. Retrieval Services - Ray Glowniak/CA
8/26/2009 12:06:01 PM (4130 views)
Re: A.I.T.F. Retrieval Services - Jamie Stallings/TN
12/14/2009 11:47:13 PM (3985 views)
Re: A.I.T.F. Retrieval Services - na siglio/NY
8/20/2009 4:19:29 PM (4425 views)
Re: A.I.T.F. Retrieval Services - george Hubka/MI
8/21/2009 12:53:46 PM (4594 views)
Re: A.I.T.F. Retrieval Services - Jamie Stallings/TN
1/4/2010 7:56:13 PM (3934 views)
Re: A.I.T.F. Retrieval Services - Valerie Symons/IL
9/7/2010 3:54:55 PM (3927 views)
Re: A.I.T.F. Retrieval Services - Valerie Symons/IL
9/8/2010 10:35:23 AM (3591 views)

abstractorleads.com - PJ/CA
8/19/2009 12:27:57 PM (4382 views)

Back Forty Abstracts, LLC - Edward Huguenin/SC
8/15/2009 11:48:33 AM (3366 views)

Apex Professionals, LLC - Edward Huguenin/SC
8/15/2009 11:44:53 AM (3309 views)

Eclipse and American Residential Abstracts no pay - Shannon Budziak/VT
8/15/2009 9:19:39 AM (4135 views)
Re: Eclipse and American Residential Abstracts no pay - Brenda Palmer/TN
8/17/2009 2:55:47 AM (4643 views)
American Residential Abstracts DOES pay - Jessica Obitz/MD
8/17/2009 9:02:55 AM (4593 views)
Re: American Residential Abstracts DOES pay - george Hubka/MI
8/17/2009 11:11:14 AM (4358 views)
Re: American Residential Abstracts DOES pay - Jessica Obitz/MD
8/18/2009 7:59:10 AM (4275 views)
Re: American Residential Abstracts DOES pay - george Hubka/MI
8/18/2009 8:02:30 AM (4325 views)
Re: American Residential Abstracts DOES pay - Jessica Obitz/MD
8/18/2009 8:30:55 AM (4331 views)
Re: American Residential Abstracts DOES pay - george Hubka/MI
8/18/2009 10:53:28 PM (4176 views)
Re: American Residential Abstracts DOES pay - Shannon Budziak/VT
8/31/2009 7:24:36 AM (3973 views)
Re: American Residential Abstracts DOES pay - Jessica Obitz/MD
8/31/2009 9:30:13 AM (4081 views)
Re: American Residential Abstracts DOES pay - george Hubka/MI
9/8/2009 12:29:50 PM (4062 views)
Re: American Residential Abstracts DOES pay - Jessica Obitz/MD
9/15/2009 9:13:04 AM (3850 views)
Re: American Residential Abstracts DOES pay - Jessica Obitz/MD
8/18/2009 7:55:24 AM (4310 views)
Re: American Residential Abstracts DOES pay - Constance Foye/VA
8/18/2009 2:42:29 PM (4427 views)
Re: Eclipse and American Residential Abstracts no pay - Wayne Schutt II/NY
8/17/2009 10:34:53 AM (4514 views)
Re: Eclipse and American Residential Abstracts no pay - george Hubka/MI
8/17/2009 11:00:46 AM (4454 views)
Re: Eclipse and American Residential Abstracts no pay - Tammy Skrzypek/VA
8/17/2009 11:30:43 AM (4656 views)
Re: Eclipse and American Residential Abstracts no pay - Kurt deVries/FL
8/19/2009 3:13:52 PM (4487 views)
Re: Eclipse and American Residential Abstracts no pay - SM/IL
8/19/2009 11:38:19 PM (4510 views)
Re: Eclipse and American Residential Abstracts no pay - Jason Beter/WV
8/24/2009 9:50:37 PM (4193 views)

E & O Increase - Helene /GA
8/14/2009 1:30:39 AM (3765 views)
Re: E & O Increase - Langdon Knight/MO
8/14/2009 9:40:34 AM (4367 views)
Re: E & O Increase - Glenda Hodge/TN
8/14/2009 11:30:19 AM (4394 views)
Re: E & O Increase - Langdon Knight/MO
8/17/2009 12:56:45 AM (4355 views)
Re: E & O Increase - Robert Franco/OH
8/14/2009 9:53:11 AM (6211 views)
Re: E & O Increase - Jessica Talley/NJ
8/14/2009 10:21:55 AM (4494 views)
Re: E & O Increase - Helene/GA
8/16/2009 10:20:14 PM (4269 views)
Re: E & O Increase - Langdon Knight/MO
8/17/2009 1:03:02 AM (4217 views)


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