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How would you handle this? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
5/11/2010 4:26:31 PM (3697 views)
Re: How would you handle this? - Robert Franco/OH
5/11/2010 4:39:48 PM (2676 views)
Re: How would you handle this? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
5/11/2010 6:59:39 PM (2734 views)
Re: How would you handle this? - Shari Lee  Beynon/FL
5/16/2010 9:16:48 PM (2570 views)
Re: How would you handle this? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
5/17/2010 11:20:23 AM (2389 views)
Re: How would you handle this? - Clanci Nelson/OH
6/2/2010 5:22:00 PM (2351 views)
Re: How would you handle this? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
6/2/2010 11:16:28 PM (2393 views)

Creative Title - RICK PERRY/TN
5/10/2010 12:19:26 PM (2987 views)

FYI Ga Abstractors - Fee Increase - Helene /GA
5/7/2010 10:04:18 PM (4225 views)
Re: FYI Ga Abstractors - Fee Increase - george Hubka/MI
5/8/2010 9:38:16 AM (2728 views)
Re: FYI Ga Abstractors - Fee Increase - Nils Nelson/ME
5/8/2010 11:31:36 AM (2884 views)
Re: FYI Ga Abstractors - Fee Increase - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/9/2010 9:20:34 PM (2700 views)
Re: FYI Ga Abstractors - Fee Increase - Nils Nelson/ME
5/9/2010 11:12:03 PM (2758 views)
Re: FYI Ga Abstractors - Fee Increase - Mark Mauldin/GA
5/10/2010 7:42:31 AM (2666 views)
Re: FYI Ga Abstractors - Fee Increase - Ray Young/GA
5/10/2010 7:54:38 AM (2727 views)
Re: FYI Ga Abstractors - Fee Increase - Kristi Lee/NE
5/10/2010 9:37:24 AM (2619 views)
Re: FYI Ga Abstractors - Fee Increase - Nils Nelson/ME
5/10/2010 9:58:09 AM (2856 views)
Re: FYI Ga Abstractors - Fee Increase - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/10/2010 11:24:04 AM (2659 views)
Re: FYI Ga Abstractors - Fee Increase - Helene /GA
5/11/2010 10:31:23 PM (2743 views)
Re: FYI Ga Abstractors - Fee Increase - Robert Franco/OH
5/12/2010 10:26:51 AM (2667 views)

US Title Corporation Knoxville Tn - Louise Jackson/SC
5/7/2010 6:07:41 PM (4675 views)
Re: US Title Corporation Knoxville Tn - P Parrish/AL
5/8/2010 6:29:41 PM (3056 views)
Re: US Title Corporation Knoxville Tn - Louise Jackson/SC
5/9/2010 6:24:45 PM (3231 views)
Re: US Title Corporation Knoxville Tn - Brenda Palmer/TN
5/10/2010 4:44:28 AM (3012 views)
Re: US Title Corporation Knoxville Tn - Louise Jackson/SC
5/10/2010 7:15:18 AM (2947 views)
Re: US Title Corporation Knoxville Tn - Virginia Capps/TN
5/11/2010 6:07:59 PM (2850 views)
Re: US Title Corporation Knoxville Tn - Brenda Palmer/TN
5/12/2010 4:59:46 PM (2868 views)
Re: US Title Corporation Knoxville Tn - Becky Alder-Loree/TN
5/13/2010 4:35:26 PM (2873 views)
Re: US Title Corporation Knoxville Tn - george Hubka/MI
5/13/2010 11:11:48 PM (2706 views)
Re: US Title Corporation Knoxville Tn - Becky Alder-Loree/TN
5/17/2010 11:45:19 AM (2680 views)
Re: US Title Corporation Knoxville Tn - george Hubka/MI
5/17/2010 8:44:51 PM (2758 views)
Re: US Title Corporation Knoxville Tn - Virginia Capps/TN
5/17/2010 10:54:08 PM (2932 views)

Title report forms - Ray Young/GA
5/7/2010 4:51:42 PM (3715 views)
Re: Title report forms - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/21/2010 4:29:26 PM (2599 views)
Re: Title report forms - David Fagen/IL
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Re: Title report forms - Ray Young/GA
10/14/2013 9:08:25 AM (1054 views)


Real Title Services


Suffolk County Abstract - Marte Smith/WI
5/7/2010 8:59:48 AM (3715 views)
Re: Suffolk County Abstract - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/7/2010 12:13:24 PM (3034 views)
Re: Suffolk County Abstract - Marte Smith/WI
5/7/2010 2:07:43 PM (2905 views)
Re: Suffolk County Abstract - Donna Stovall/NY
5/10/2010 5:49:31 PM (3106 views)
Re: Suffolk County Abstract - Marte Smith/WI
5/10/2010 6:20:40 PM (2944 views)

Vision Land Service on Fed list...Sharon Howard is clueless why - William Case/TN
5/6/2010 4:58:59 PM (6656 views)
Re: Vision Land Service on Fed list...Sharon Howard is clueless why - Slade Smith/OH
5/6/2010 5:16:03 PM (3091 views)
Re: Vision Land Service on Fed list...Sharon Howard is clueless why - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
5/6/2010 9:26:56 PM (2960 views)

Crawford County Kansas - K C/NJ
5/6/2010 12:31:20 PM (3404 views)

  My name is Ryan, I'm the vendor manager at Abstractopia, and I just wanted to let all you searchers out there know that if you are tired of having your prices haggled down to nearly nothing, apparently Crawford County Kansas is the place to go!  

  We had an order out there, and I will keep the company who did it for us anonymous -  just a regular current owner, nothing crazy.  I called around a few places (this county seemed pretty remote judging by the amount of searchers listed on SOT), and finally found a contact who would do the search.  The receptionist quoted me 200 dollars plus copies.  Ouch, but sometimes (especially out there in KS) there isn't much you can do about it.  So we sent the order over and didn't think much of it until the next day.
 
  I opened up an email and it looked like just a monthly invoice (it being the end of the month, we've seen quite a few of these).  It was one order for 325 dollars, so I assumed it was for some of the commercial work we do.  However I recognized the order number as the Crawford County order (everyone who has had a real headache of an order knows how some numbers stick in your head).  The charge of 200 dollars was their base fee.  Then there was a 75 dollar "24 month chain fee".  24 month chain is a pretty standard requirement from all of our clients, and (working in 20 states) I have never seen an additional fee for this.  To add insult to financial injury, they only pulled one deed for us, and it was in 1999.  So if we had sent this order over without the "24 month chain of title" requirement, we would have gotten the same order, at 75 dollars cheaper (which this abstractor happily admitted).  The next item on the invoice was a 50 dollar "copy charge".  "Goodness!" I thought, thinking that I must have mistakenly ordered full copies, or that there were 50 judgments against this guy.  Not the case.  There were full copy mortgages (the order sheet states we only need pertinent pages), and a deed.  They totaled about 24 pages.  Wow, about two dollars a page for copies?  Not too shabby.  We actually used 12 - $4 per page.
 
  So I called the abstractor to see what was going on with this extra 125 dollars in fees.  The receptionist informed me that she "had no way of knowing what pertinent pages we would need so they pulled all the pages".  Now our order sheets clearly state what pages we need.  Then the owner came on the phone and after a bit of civil conversation, dropped most of the erroneous fees (although he never dropped the attitude).  He cited that they charge $50 in copies "because, you know, some of these searches have 5 deeds and full mortgage copies" which was similar to his argument regarding the 24 month chain charge as "well, there can be a lot of deeds to go past two years."  Our simple search met neither requirement.
 
  Now my problem isn't that he wanted to charge this much for his services, my problem is that he tried to slip them in there on the sly.  This is the exact same tactic people hate when they get their car fixed, or on their cell phone plans.  We hear a lot on this site about Title Companies and Vendor Managers out there trying to get everything for less than what it's worth, but this is on the opposite end of the spectrum.  An abstractor taking advantage of the situation because they know they have a monopoly or they just think adding $125 to their quote is okay and we won't notice?  How do you expect to ever get another order from the same company again with these tactics?
 
PS:  If there are any good KS searchers out there, please feel free to email me your coverage at ryan@abstractopia.com. We look for good communication, accurate ETA’s, and a sense of humor never hurts!  Integrity and ethics are a must.
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Re: Crawford County Kansas - Robert Franco/OH
5/6/2010 3:48:43 PM (2798 views)
Re: Crawford County Kansas - K C/NJ
5/6/2010 4:03:55 PM (2986 views)
Re: Crawford County Kansas - Slade Smith/OH
5/6/2010 4:27:02 PM (4211 views)
Re: Crawford County Kansas - K C/NJ
5/6/2010 4:31:23 PM (2911 views)
Re: Crawford County Kansas - Patrick Scott/IL
5/6/2010 9:36:18 PM (3004 views)
Re: Crawford County Kansas - K C/NJ
5/6/2010 10:01:40 PM (2878 views)
Re: Crawford County Kansas - Robert Franco/OH
5/6/2010 10:58:23 PM (2799 views)
Re: Crawford County Kansas - george Hubka/MI
5/7/2010 3:05:10 PM (2805 views)
Re: Crawford County Kansas - Deborah Manion/VA
5/7/2010 3:42:27 PM (2838 views)
Re: Crawford County Kansas - Nils Nelson/ME
5/7/2010 5:10:11 PM (2821 views)

Real T Solutions Las Vegas - Joseph Kelley/MO
5/6/2010 8:42:26 AM (11253 views)
Re: Real T Solutions Las Vegas - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/6/2010 10:55:08 AM (4029 views)
Re: Real T Solutions Las Vegas - Sheila Sten/PA
5/6/2010 1:01:17 PM (3447 views)
Re: Real T Solutions Las Vegas - Robert Franco/OH
5/6/2010 3:52:30 PM (3462 views)
Re: Real T Solutions Las Vegas - Sheila Sten/PA
5/6/2010 4:38:39 PM (3544 views)
Re: Real T Solutions Las Vegas - Amy Jensen/OR
5/7/2010 7:16:32 PM (3416 views)
Re: Real T Solutions Las Vegas - Sheila Sten/PA
5/7/2010 10:40:17 PM (3318 views)
Re: Real T Solutions Las Vegas - george Hubka/MI
5/8/2010 9:47:45 AM (3530 views)
Re: Real T Solutions Las Vegas - Sheila Sten/PA
5/8/2010 7:59:38 PM (3451 views)
Re: Real T Solutions Las Vegas - Amy Jensen/OR
5/10/2010 4:12:10 PM (3478 views)
Re: Real T Solutions Las Vegas - Sheila Sten/PA
5/10/2010 4:49:26 PM (5896 views)
Re: Real T Solutions Las Vegas - Amy Jensen/OR
5/10/2010 6:04:03 PM (3521 views)

BridgeWater & Associates, Inc. - William Case/TN
5/5/2010 2:41:17 PM (8728 views)
Re: BridgeWater & Associates, Inc. - Jason Knowles/AL
5/5/2010 4:58:03 PM (5822 views)
Re: BridgeWater & Associates, Inc. - William Case/TN
5/5/2010 5:15:10 PM (3759 views)
Re: BridgeWater & Associates, Inc. - Glenda Hodge/TN
5/9/2010 2:42:56 PM (3672 views)
Re: BridgeWater & Associates, Inc. - Helene /GA
5/11/2010 10:39:54 PM (3609 views)
Re: BridgeWater & Associates, Inc. - Anthony BROWNN/VA
5/10/2010 9:56:39 AM (3562 views)
Re: BridgeWater & Associates, Inc. - Celia Franklin/GA
5/17/2010 8:48:32 AM (3546 views)
Re: BridgeWater & Associates, Inc. - george Hubka/MI
5/17/2010 11:07:15 AM (3285 views)
Re: BridgeWater & Associates, Inc. - PAULA DEEM  REYNOLDS/FL
5/18/2010 6:56:27 PM (3472 views)
Re: BridgeWater & Associates, Inc. - Anthony BROWNN/VA
5/24/2010 7:38:59 AM (3926 views)
Re: BridgeWater & Associates, Inc. - Donna Johnson/GA
12/23/2010 2:17:51 AM (4013 views)

Express National - Las Vegas, NV - Dan Zook/NY
5/5/2010 1:19:28 PM (7508 views)
Re: Express National - Las Vegas, NV - Niari Woods/MN
5/6/2010 4:24:37 PM (3476 views)
Re: Express National - Las Vegas, NV - Dan Zook/NY
5/7/2010 10:35:09 AM (3253 views)
Re: Express National - Las Vegas, NV - Cyril Gonzales, III/LA
5/10/2010 9:08:32 AM (3308 views)
Re: Express National - Las Vegas, NV - Greg Weiss/IL
5/10/2010 12:57:00 PM (3184 views)
Re: Express National - Las Vegas, NV - Nathan Miller/KY
3/3/2011 2:50:41 PM (2771 views)

ALTA MEMBERSHIP INCREASE - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
5/5/2010 12:38:45 PM (3485 views)
Re: ALTA MEMBERSHIP INCREASE - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/5/2010 2:51:01 PM (2800 views)
Re: ALTA MEMBERSHIP INCREASE - Robert Franco/OH
5/5/2010 4:43:08 PM (2700 views)
Re: ALTA MEMBERSHIP INCREASE - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
5/5/2010 6:51:48 PM (2822 views)
Re: ALTA MEMBERSHIP INCREASE - Helene /GA
5/7/2010 9:23:20 PM (2785 views)

First American/ Bank of America Lawsuit-- Copy of First American's answer and counterclaims - Slade Smith/OH
5/5/2010 11:26:33 AM (4379 views)

error code? - monica froese/ME
5/4/2010 7:20:11 PM (3048 views)
Re: error code? - george Hubka/MI
5/4/2010 7:24:37 PM (2656 views)
Re: error code? - Robert Franco/OH
5/4/2010 10:21:28 PM (2805 views)

First American/ B of A lawsuit-- need favor from NC searcher! - Slade Smith/OH
5/4/2010 1:19:19 PM (6083 views)
Re: First American/ B of A lawsuit-- need favor from NC searcher! - Karen Hawkins/NC
5/5/2010 7:31:06 AM (2748 views)
Re: First American/ B of A lawsuit-- need favor from NC searcher! - Slade Smith/OH
5/5/2010 10:12:28 AM (2792 views)


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