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May I make a suggestion? - Nils Nelson/ME
10/30/2010 8:03:43 PM (3749 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - George Booth/OH
10/31/2010 9:26:17 AM (3971 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/31/2010 12:41:20 PM (3851 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - Nils Nelson/ME
10/31/2010 1:28:30 PM (3947 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - George Booth/OH
10/31/2010 4:42:33 PM (3904 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - K C/NJ
11/1/2010 10:59:52 AM (3799 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - William Pattison /CA
11/1/2010 12:35:53 PM (3798 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - K C/NJ
11/1/2010 8:34:16 PM (3709 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - Slade Smith/OH
11/1/2010 2:39:55 PM (3762 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - Nils Nelson/ME
11/1/2010 3:29:37 PM (3748 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - Dan Zook/NY
11/1/2010 4:10:02 PM (3657 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - K C/NJ
11/1/2010 8:45:44 PM (3706 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - Nils Nelson/ME
11/2/2010 12:40:08 PM (3745 views)

SOT IS JOKE - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 7:55:24 PM (4096 views)
Re: SOT IS JOKE - Matt Papsch
10/31/2010 10:47:14 AM (4055 views)
Re: ROBERT ALVEY IS "A" JOKE - Scott Perry/PA
10/31/2010 2:55:02 PM (4079 views)
Re: ROBERT ALVEY IS "A" JOKE - Jean Allen/NC
10/31/2010 7:00:20 PM (4078 views)
Re: SOT IS JOKE - Jessica Talley/NJ
11/1/2010 9:03:26 AM (3832 views)
Re: SOT IS JOKE - K C/NJ
11/1/2010 10:54:00 AM (3830 views)
Re: SOT IS JOKE - William Pattison /CA
11/1/2010 12:33:42 PM (3882 views)
Re: SOT IS JOKE - Sheila Sten/PA
11/1/2010 7:36:30 PM (4008 views)
Re: SOT IS JOKE - Scott Perry/PA
11/2/2010 12:32:12 AM (3842 views)

abstractor info - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 3:41:54 PM (3973 views)
Re: abstractor info - Janis Talbot/SC
11/1/2010 6:02:00 PM (3859 views)
Re: abstractor info - Jessica Talley/NJ
11/2/2010 2:25:36 PM (3888 views)
VERY INTERESTING - William Pattison /CA
11/5/2010 4:02:57 PM (3643 views)

To Matt - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 3:33:37 PM (3540 views)
Re: To Matt - Matt Papsch/MD
10/31/2010 10:42:37 AM (3837 views)

who cares - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 3:15:10 PM (3694 views)
Re: who cares - George Booth/OH
10/30/2010 5:42:41 PM (4019 views)
Re: who cares - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 7:48:11 PM (4097 views)
Re: who cares - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 7:49:34 PM (3925 views)
Thank You, Mr. Alvey - Scott Perry/PA
10/31/2010 3:46:21 PM (4044 views)
Re: Thank You, Mr. Alvey - George Booth/OH
10/31/2010 4:44:45 PM (4008 views)
Re: Thank You, Mr. Alvey - Kurt deVries/FL
11/1/2010 12:17:55 PM (3782 views)
Re: who cares - Constance Foye/VA
11/1/2010 12:18:32 PM (3790 views)




What if - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/30/2010 9:54:27 AM (3395 views)
Re: What if - Patrick Scott/IL
10/30/2010 8:43:10 PM (3789 views)
Re: What if - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/30/2010 8:59:39 PM (3772 views)
Re: What if - Robert Franco/OH
10/31/2010 4:56:57 PM (3706 views)
Re: What if - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/31/2010 5:37:58 PM (3680 views)
Re: What if - Bill Garrett/MS
11/1/2010 10:20:51 AM (3622 views)
Re: What if - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/1/2010 10:37:39 AM (3715 views)
Re: What if - Jessica Talley/NJ
11/1/2010 12:12:22 PM (3604 views)
Re: What if - William Pattison /CA
11/1/2010 12:14:29 PM (3549 views)
Re: What if - Robert Franco/OH
11/1/2010 12:26:53 PM (3655 views)
Re: What if - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/1/2010 12:53:02 PM (3611 views)
Re: What if - Marian Littleton/VA
11/1/2010 3:29:40 PM (3638 views)

Here is a real life...

I got a call from an attorney recently who wanted to know about our standards of practice in a certain county and how we handle bringdowns prior to recording documents.

Nothing out of the oridinary for us or anyone else.  But this is what the problem is.

Insurance Company is suing Settlement Company for a missed IRS lien that recorded on the Friday before the documents recorded on Monday.  The Settlement Company had contracted out to Abstractor Company to do the recording (maybe the search as well - not sure).  The Settlement Company couriered over the deed to the courthouse attention to the Abstractor Company to the courthouse's record room.  Package was signed by another Abstractor (actually a guy who had a business of only recording documents in that county).  From what I can gather (& have heard from a couple of people) Abstractor Company has no record of recording the document themselves or ever being in receipt of the documents.  The Settlement Company had a practice of looking up recorded documents themselves if they didn't get a call from the Abstractor by the time they thought they should have - so they probably checked the index on Monday and found the document of record and never called the Abstractor Company to check the status of their recording.  Now, I guess it depends on what happens in the case against the Settlement Company whether or no the Abstract Company will be brought in or not.  The now current owners are in foreclosure and this IRS lien is in Sr position, thus creating a bad situation for the lender.

Very scary!!!  We really try to get clients to only send documents directly to us and never to the courthouse.  The major reasons are 1) Lost documents 2) Someone else recording your documents inadvertantly (you hope not on purpose).

We want even talk about the fact that we can't 'look' at documents that aren't merged into the index but recorded after the published effective date.  The above situation is still problematic as the effective date for that county is always at least a week behind and if the IRS lien was initially index correctly it wouldn't be caught until the county 'verified' that instrument's index entry.  I happen to know it was initially indexed correctly so a B/D would have found it but b/c apparently one wasn't done..... Well we'll see what happens on this one.

An finally a real title question!!!!!!!!

 

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Re: What if - Robert Franco/OH
11/1/2010 3:49:37 PM (3669 views)
Re: What if - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/1/2010 7:39:37 PM (3563 views)
Re: What if - Marian's post - Constance Foye/VA
11/10/2010 9:33:09 PM (3611 views)
Re: What if - Marian's post - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
11/11/2010 11:45:17 AM (3578 views)

MERS and DC FORECLOSURES - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
10/29/2010 9:49:29 AM (5688 views)
Re: MERS and DC FORECLOSURES - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/29/2010 10:33:16 AM (3848 views)
Re: MERS and DC FORECLOSURES - George Booth/OH
10/29/2010 10:39:11 AM (3879 views)
Re: MERS and DC FORECLOSURES - Slade Smith/OH
10/29/2010 11:42:59 AM (3992 views)
Cite what law? - Robert Franco/OH
10/29/2010 3:23:24 PM (3835 views)
Re: Cite what law? - Slade Smith
10/29/2010 3:27:10 PM (3790 views)
Re: Cite what law? - Robert Franco/OH
10/29/2010 4:53:00 PM (4591 views)
Re: MERS and DC FORECLOSURES - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/29/2010 12:35:07 PM (6469 views)
Re: MERS and DC FORECLOSURES - Slade Smith/OH
10/29/2010 3:02:19 PM (7554 views)

Comment on "Community Development Director Commits Fraud in Role as Title Company Owner" - Source of Title/OH
10/29/2010 9:44:27 AM (3156 views)
Fraud in Gary - Gloria Eldridge/IN
10/29/2010 9:44:27 AM (8796 views)
Re: Fraud in Gary - Slade Smith/OH
10/29/2010 11:01:54 AM (8897 views)
Re: Fraud in Gary - Gloria Eldridge/IN
10/29/2010 11:13:50 AM (8711 views)

Title info - Robert Alvey/VA
10/29/2010 1:36:32 AM (3513 views)
Re: Title info - Matt Papsch/MD
10/29/2010 4:06:07 AM (4106 views)
Re: Title info - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 3:05:27 PM (3875 views)
Re: Title info - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 3:23:30 PM (3838 views)
Re: Title info - George Booth/OH
10/29/2010 7:37:30 AM (3956 views)
Re: Title info - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 3:26:09 PM (3811 views)
Re: Title info - Louise Jackson/SC
10/29/2010 8:10:52 AM (3998 views)
Re: Title info - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 3:26:49 PM (3822 views)
Re: Title info - Robert Franco/OH
10/29/2010 3:02:09 PM (3918 views)
Re: Title info - William Pattison /CA
10/29/2010 4:26:08 PM (3835 views)
Re: Title info - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 3:22:55 PM (3783 views)
Re: Title info - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 3:31:17 PM (3773 views)
Re: Title info - Jessica Talley/NJ
10/29/2010 7:25:28 PM (3758 views)
Re: Title info - K C/NJ
11/1/2010 10:47:06 AM (3711 views)

Politicians at Play - William Pattison /CA
10/28/2010 12:14:49 PM (3932 views)
Re: Politicians at Play - Robert Alvey/VA
10/29/2010 1:25:22 AM (3624 views)
Re: Politicians at Play - William Pattison /CA
10/29/2010 4:16:21 PM (3542 views)

Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - Scott Perry/PA
10/28/2010 11:13:32 AM (4857 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - Slade Smith/OH
10/28/2010 12:32:28 PM (3892 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - Scott Perry/PA
10/28/2010 1:41:30 PM (4068 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - George Booth/OH
10/28/2010 7:56:51 PM (6976 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - Scott Perry/PA
10/28/2010 9:07:49 PM (6624 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - George Booth/OH
10/28/2010 9:31:48 PM (3651 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - Scott Perry/PA
10/29/2010 10:07:31 AM (3744 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - George Booth/OH
10/29/2010 10:50:23 AM (3636 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - Scott Perry/PA
10/29/2010 11:37:29 AM (3677 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - Slade Smith/OH
10/29/2010 11:48:50 AM (3684 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - Scott Perry/PA
10/29/2010 12:10:30 PM (6475 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - Slade Smith/OH
10/29/2010 12:32:21 PM (3747 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - George Booth/OH
10/29/2010 12:44:34 PM (3571 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - Scott Perry/PA
10/29/2010 1:12:24 PM (3578 views)

Title Problem from Foreclosure - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2010 9:22:16 AM (3493 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/28/2010 11:28:20 AM (3924 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - George Booth
10/28/2010 11:59:14 AM (3918 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2010 1:01:08 PM (3933 views)
Warped Sense of Humor Perspective - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
10/28/2010 1:18:02 PM (4093 views)
Re: Warped Sense of Humor Perspective - Jessica Talley/NJ
10/28/2010 2:14:26 PM (3968 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - George Booth/OH
10/28/2010 3:29:20 PM (4428 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2010 3:39:21 PM (3964 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - William Pattison /CA
10/28/2010 3:45:37 PM (3926 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - George Booth/OH
10/28/2010 7:25:25 PM (3878 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/28/2010 7:42:39 PM (3906 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - George Booth/OH
10/28/2010 7:46:11 PM (3806 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Robert Franco/OH
10/29/2010 3:26:13 PM (3758 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Robert Alvey/VA
10/29/2010 1:20:23 AM (3943 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - William Pattison /CA
10/28/2010 3:12:39 PM (3866 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - George Booth
10/28/2010 7:42:45 PM (3808 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Slade Smith/OH
10/28/2010 8:05:34 PM (3862 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - George Booth/OH
10/28/2010 8:12:54 PM (3841 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Jessica Talley/NJ
10/29/2010 7:08:57 AM (3791 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Robert Alvey/VA
10/29/2010 1:41:47 AM (4031 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - George Booth/OH
10/29/2010 7:52:53 AM (3914 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Jessica Talley/NJ
10/29/2010 7:30:20 PM (3741 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Scott Perry/PA
10/30/2010 10:46:40 AM (3819 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - William Pattison /CA
11/1/2010 4:01:54 PM (3789 views)

NYT article regarding Spain's foreclosure practices - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/27/2010 10:18:18 PM (4846 views)
Re: NYT article regarding Spain's foreclosure practices - George Booth/OH
10/27/2010 11:04:22 PM (3743 views)
Re: NYT article regarding Spain's foreclosure practices - Bill Garrett/MS
11/1/2010 11:12:15 AM (3596 views)
Re: NYT article regarding Spain's foreclosure practices - William Pattison 
11/1/2010 3:27:12 PM (3492 views)
Re: NYT article regarding Spain's foreclosure practices - Bill Garrett/MS
11/1/2010 8:59:45 PM (3526 views)
Predatory Lending - William Pattison /CA
11/1/2010 5:58:12 PM (3442 views)

CHECK THIS LINK REGARDING STERN - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
10/27/2010 2:45:41 PM (4521 views)
Re: CHECK THIS LINK REGARDING STERN - K C/NJ
10/27/2010 4:35:25 PM (3492 views)

Fidelity National Agency Solutions - Rita Killary/NY
10/27/2010 11:00:08 AM (3664 views)
Re: Fidelity National Agency Solutions - Jessica Talley/NJ
10/27/2010 1:46:26 PM (3997 views)
Re: Fidelity National Agency Solutions - K C/NJ
10/27/2010 4:27:58 PM (3866 views)
Re: Fidelity National Agency Solutions - K C/NJ
10/27/2010 4:34:26 PM (4132 views)
Re: Fidelity National Agency Solutions - Sheila Sten/PA
10/27/2010 9:25:06 PM (4874 views)
Re: Fidelity National Agency Solutions - Rita Killary/NY
10/28/2010 11:02:36 AM (3989 views)


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