As I correctly assumed, you didn't even read the post, yet you arrogantly tout your rational debate mantra while knowing nothing of the substance of which I speak. I presume to know liberals not by opinion or rumors, I know liberals because I've taken up the cause of rooting out hypocracy, laziness, complacent citizenship since I left the military some years ago.

It is people like you that tear this Country down from within. People like John who would shout from the highest mountain for which he believes the truth, when in reality it is nothing more than a smokescreen of over- tolerance and unbridled socialism run amok.

The funny thing is people like you would most likely give a terrorist like Ahmadinejad a seat at the table to show how enlightened and PC you are but people like me that lack PC and have matter of fact speech should be castigated for our lack of couth. Mental Masturbation is an analogy Leigh, it's a vivid description of trying to "pound some sense" into a liberal. It's not meant to enrage, it's ment to give perspective into the plight so many Americans feel when confronted with liberals such as yourself.

The only thing that gives me hope in this great Republic of ours is that every two years we get a chance to speak our minds. I'm no prophet, even though I saw the economic downturn years ago, but I predict liberals are now a dying species. You had the House and Senate for four years and managed to do nothing of any consequence except screw things up. November will be a day of reckoning and the silent rebellion that started in the 60's will be quashed for another generation. America has had enough of the petulent child that is liberalism and it's time to put the kid to bed.