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Scheme to Defraud Independents Exposed - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
2/25/2010 3:55:37 PM (6436 views)

Hanc Group - Elvin Hill/TX
2/24/2010 3:11:15 PM (3885 views)
Re: Hanc Group - Abstractor/AL
2/24/2010 5:14:03 PM (3720 views)
Re: Hanc Group - Marte Smith/WI
2/25/2010 11:30:12 AM (3577 views)
Re: Hanc Group - Constance Foye/VA
2/25/2010 12:32:49 PM (3573 views)
Re: Hanc Group - Sheila Sten/PA
2/28/2010 8:16:30 PM (3587 views)
Re: Hanc Group - george Hubka/MI
2/28/2010 8:30:57 PM (3601 views)

Abstractor Watchdog - Abstractor/MI
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Re: Abstractor Watchdog - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
2/24/2010 11:44:47 AM (4121 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - Ellen Maher/MI
2/24/2010 2:44:55 PM (3657 views)

Real Estate Title Services, LLC - Patricia Perry/WV
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2/23/2010 3:45:44 PM (4084 views)
Re: Real Estate Title Services, LLC - Constance Foye/VA
2/25/2010 12:36:12 PM (3707 views)
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3/1/2010 7:09:09 AM (4017 views)
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Re: Real Estate Title Services, LLC - Russell Williams, Jr./WV
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Re: Real Estate Title Services, LLC - george Hubka/MI
3/9/2010 8:14:59 PM (4282 views)

Frustrated by slow pays - Abstractor/MI
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Re: Frustrated by slow pays - Robert Franco/OH
2/23/2010 1:48:37 PM (3939 views)
Re: Frustrated by slow pays - Joyce Obrien/PA
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Re: Frustrated by slow pays - Alix Ott/MI
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Re: Frustrated by slow pays - James Newberry/WI
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Re: Frustrated by slow pays - Robert Franco/OH
3/1/2010 11:05:21 AM (3640 views)
Re: Frustrated by slow pays - Ellen Maher/MI
3/1/2010 12:14:53 PM (3563 views)
Re: Frustrated by slow pays - george Hubka/MI
3/1/2010 6:56:12 PM (3527 views)


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NREIS - Joyce Obrien/PA
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Re: NREIS - Nils Nelson/ME
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Re: NREIS - Joyce Obrien/PA
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Re: NREIS - Nils Nelson/ME
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Re: NREIS - Ellen Maher/MI
2/24/2010 3:31:01 PM (4952 views)
Re: NREIS - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: NREIS - Joyce Obrien/PA
2/26/2010 3:49:16 PM (4947 views)

Tax Info - Ellen Maher/MI
2/19/2010 9:14:39 AM (3686 views)
Re: Tax Info - Pamela Mills/MI
2/22/2010 7:33:18 AM (3591 views)
Re: Tax Info - Karen Knuth/NY
2/22/2010 8:00:29 AM (3521 views)
Re: Tax Info - William Pattison /CA
2/23/2010 1:10:16 PM (3510 views)
Re: Tax Info - Ellen Maher/MI
2/23/2010 1:25:37 PM (3350 views)

iMortgage - Saundra  Scott/MD
2/19/2010 5:32:31 AM (4115 views)
Re: iMortgage - Sheila Sten/PA
2/21/2010 10:36:05 AM (3833 views)
Re: iMortgage - Saundra  Scott/MD
2/22/2010 7:54:32 AM (3710 views)
Re: iMortgage - Cyril Gonzales, III/LA
2/22/2010 9:16:01 AM (3664 views)
Re: iMortgage - Sheila Sten/PA
2/23/2010 11:02:10 AM (3538 views)
Re: iMortgage - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
2/23/2010 12:43:00 PM (3623 views)
Re: iMortgage - Sheila Sten/PA
2/23/2010 9:01:22 PM (3451 views)
Re: iMortgage - Jessica Talley/NJ
2/24/2010 5:06:25 PM (3580 views)
Re: iMortgage - Scott Perry/PA
2/25/2010 2:09:27 PM (3400 views)
Re: iMortgage - Sheila Sten/PA
2/26/2010 8:31:22 AM (3389 views)
Re: iMortgage - Scott Perry/PA
2/26/2010 9:55:09 AM (3485 views)
Re: iMortgage - Sheila Sten/PA
2/28/2010 11:55:18 AM (3397 views)
Re: iMortgage - Scott Perry/PA
2/28/2010 4:05:18 PM (3462 views)
Re: iMortgage - george Hubka/MI
2/28/2010 8:05:12 PM (3357 views)
Re: iMortgage - Sheila Sten/PA
2/28/2010 8:14:51 PM (3313 views)
Re: iMortgage - Scott Perry/PA
3/1/2010 12:20:02 AM (3316 views)
Re: iMortgage - Scott Perry/PA
2/28/2010 10:40:20 PM (3421 views)
Re: iMortgage - Saundra  Scott/MD
3/1/2010 8:07:06 AM (3446 views)

FOLLOW UP TO AIG IS AT IT AGAIN - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
2/18/2010 6:15:33 PM (3683 views)
Re: FOLLOW UP TO AIG IS AT IT AGAIN - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/23/2010 7:26:30 AM (3102 views)

No Pay Until File Closes??? - Glenda Hodge/TN
2/17/2010 9:18:58 PM (4131 views)
Re: No Pay Until File Closes??? - Jessica Talley/NJ
2/18/2010 6:28:30 AM (3780 views)
Re: No Pay Until File Closes??? - Glenda Hodge/TN
2/18/2010 11:56:37 AM (3654 views)
Re: No Pay Until File Closes??? - Scott Perry/PA
2/18/2010 7:23:14 AM (3667 views)
Re: No Pay Until File Closes??? - Louise Jackson/SC
2/18/2010 8:46:21 AM (3717 views)
Re: No Pay Until File Closes??? - Jessica Talley/NJ
2/18/2010 1:27:54 PM (3628 views)
Re: No Pay Until File Closes??? - Wanda Steudel/OH
2/18/2010 2:10:53 PM (3583 views)
Re: No Pay Until File Closes??? - Robert Franco/OH
2/18/2010 10:43:39 AM (3665 views)
Re: No Pay Until File Closes??? - Glenda Hodge/TN
2/18/2010 9:15:01 PM (3357 views)
Re: No Pay Until File Closes??? - george Hubka/MI
2/18/2010 9:47:49 PM (3429 views)
Re: No Pay Until File Closes??? - Saundra  Scott/MD
2/19/2010 5:38:28 AM (3390 views)
Re: No Pay Until File Closes??? - Victoria Moate/NJ
2/22/2010 5:18:36 AM (3445 views)
Re: No Pay Until File Closes??? - Cyril Gonzales, III/LA
2/22/2010 9:24:15 AM (3387 views)
Re: No Pay Until File Closes??? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/23/2010 6:18:00 AM (3224 views)

You are quite right. Attorneys do not work for nothing in foreclosure matters. Why should we?There is no reason why abstractors should be required to do so either.

I recall representing a Defendant in a commercial foreclosure a while back. The Plaintiff's law firm was one of the well known firms. They charged $40, 000.00 to represent the Plaintiff from initiation of the case to the motion for judgment. They were permitted to seek recovery of the attorney's fees from the Defendant as part of their damages. The court grudgingly granted the $40,000.00 , but not without commenting that it bordered on excessive. The Plaintiff can also recover the $300.00 filing fee, the Marshal's fee for service of process, recording fee for the lis pendens and committee's fees in the event of a foreclosure by sale.

There are not many defenses to a foreclosure action. There was no way that the Defendant was not going to lose the case, but there was a chance that we could seek either a foreclosure by sale rather than a strict foreclosure or a long law date for redemption in a strict foreclosue in which title is tansferred to the lender. Of the two alternatives the long law date was the preferrable alternative. The idea is to recovery as much equity as possible for the Defendant after the lender is paid, including the expenses of the foreclosure action.

In a foreclosure by sale all the vultures show up and bid as low as possible...not an attractive alternative for the recapture of equity. In a strict foreclosure with an extended law date for redemption the title remains with the Defendant until the redemption date, the Defendant has the continued use of the property in the interim and the Defendant has the option of selling the property on his own...possibly at a higher price than could be obtained in a foreclosure by sale. Although notice of the foreclosure would show up in the land records, and the Defendant would probably be deemed to be a motivated seller by prospective buyers.

In the case mentioned above I was successful in showing the equity in the property was more than shown in the Plaintiff's appraisal. It was developed property. So the appraiser was required to use the sales comparison approach to evaluate the property. The Plaintiff was required to put the appraiser on the witness stand to authenticate and introduce the appraisal to evidence. On cross examination I was able to show that the comparable properties used by the appraiser to reach his valuation were poor choices. The Court ruled that the property was worth more than the appraisal. Thus my client had the choice of a foreclosure by sale or the long law date. He chose the long law date...one year.

During the course of a foreclosure the Plaintiff's attorney normally does three title searches...the first, to initiate the case to determine all lien/mortgage holders who need to be included in the complaint filed with the court...the second, just before filing the motion for judgement to determine if there are any intervening lien holders particulatly mechanic's liens which may not have shown up in the intitial search....the third, before recording the judgment of foreclosure (strict foreclosure) or committee deed (foreclosure by sale)

 

 

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Re: No Pay Until File Closes??? - WAYNE QUICK/NC
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Re: No Pay Until File Closes??? - Glenda Hodge/TN
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Re: No Pay Until File Closes??? - george Hubka/MI
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Prepay and cut costs - William Pattison /CA
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Loan Modification - J Nisonger/CA
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Nationwide Real Estate Services Inc - jess barker/IL
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Re: Nationwide Real Estate Services Inc - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Nationwide Real Estate Services Inc - Nils Nelson/ME
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Re: Nationwide Real Estate Services Inc - John/OH
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Re: Nationwide Real Estate Services Inc - Ferlin Cosgriff/MI
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Re: Nationwide Real Estate Services Inc - Barbara Bennett/IN
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Re: Nationwide Real Estate Services Inc - Nils Nelson/ME
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Re: Nationwide Real Estate Services Inc - Ron McPherson/IA
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Re: Nationwide Real Estate Services Inc - WILLIAM REED/NH
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Re: Nationwide Real Estate Services Inc - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Nationwide Real Estate Services Inc - Jodi Thornton/MS
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Re: Nationwide Real Estate Services Inc - Elizabeth Helman/PA
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Rule of Idem Sonans - Helene /GA
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Re: Rule of Idem Sonans - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Rule of Idem Sonans - Helene/GA
2/17/2010 10:38:58 AM (3842 views)
Re: Rule of Idem Sonans - Dan Zook/NY
2/17/2010 11:34:21 AM (3630 views)
Re: Rule of Idem Sonans - Glenda Hodge/TN
2/17/2010 9:06:37 PM (3647 views)
Re: Rule of Idem Sonans - Helene Gonzalez/GA
2/17/2010 10:31:20 PM (3974 views)
Re: Rule of Idem Sonans - Dan Zook/NY
2/18/2010 9:15:31 AM (3826 views)
Re: Rule of Idem Sonans - William Pattison /CA
2/22/2010 7:12:29 PM (3608 views)
Re: Rule of Idem Sonans - Constance Foye/VA
2/25/2010 12:51:10 PM (3921 views)
Re: Rule of Idem Sonans - researcher ./VA
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Re: Rule of Idem Sonans - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Rule of Idem Sonans - Elizabeth Helman/PA
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Re: Rule of Idem Sonans - Scott Perry/PA
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Men take Woman's family names in Calif - William Pattison /CA
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WHAT SHOULD THESE SEARCHES BE CALLED? - Laurie Puckett/TN
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Re: WHAT SHOULD THESE SEARCHES BE CALLED? - J. H./OH
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Re: WHAT SHOULD THESE SEARCHES BE CALLED? - Laurie Puckett/TN
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Re: WHAT SHOULD THESE SEARCHES BE CALLED? - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: WHAT SHOULD THESE SEARCHES BE CALLED? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: WHAT SHOULD THESE SEARCHES BE CALLED? - Laurie Puckett/TN
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Re: WHAT SHOULD THESE SEARCHES BE CALLED? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: WHAT SHOULD THESE SEARCHES BE CALLED? - Victoria Moate/NJ
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Re: WHAT SHOULD THESE SEARCHES BE CALLED? - Laurie Puckett/TN
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Re: WHAT SHOULD THESE SEARCHES BE CALLED? - Constance Foye/VA
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Re: WHAT SHOULD THESE SEARCHES BE CALLED? - Robert Franco/OH
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REO America Abstract - martha campbell/VA
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