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PA title agents, abstractors & closers - Diane Cipa/PA
4/15/2009 4:14:59 PM (2729 views)

single source - Christine Sheeler/PA
4/14/2009 5:18:26 PM (3274 views)
Re: single source - Lance Whitmore/MN
4/15/2009 9:34:34 AM (3031 views)
Re: single source - Christine Sheeler/PA
4/19/2009 7:00:28 PM (2797 views)

Off Topic - Wish me luck! - Robert Franco/OH
4/14/2009 10:49:40 AM (3046 views)
Re: Off Topic - Wish me luck! - Dan Zook/NY
4/14/2009 1:11:38 PM (2891 views)
Re: Off Topic - Wish me luck! - Slade Smith/OH
4/14/2009 3:07:17 PM (2763 views)
Re: Off Topic - Wish me luck! - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/14/2009 5:40:06 PM (2894 views)
Re: Off Topic - Wish me luck! - Vikki Moffitt/GA
4/14/2009 5:47:28 PM (2714 views)
Re: Off Topic - Wish me luck! - James "Lin" Toney, Jr,/MS
4/14/2009 7:48:38 PM (2819 views)
Mock Trial Results... - Robert Franco/OH
4/15/2009 10:18:44 AM (2828 views)
Re: Mock Trial Results... - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/15/2009 10:37:23 AM (2749 views)
Re: Mock Trial Results... - J Nisonger/CA
4/15/2009 8:18:23 PM (2927 views)

Article: Online records access (PACER) - Dave Pell/GA
4/9/2009 9:32:16 PM (4999 views)
Re: Article: Online records access (PACER) - Robert Franco/OH
4/10/2009 10:37:19 AM (3046 views)
Re: Article: Online records access (PACER) - Dave Pell/GA
4/10/2009 1:31:32 PM (2981 views)
Re: Article: Online records access (PACER) - William Pattison /CA
4/13/2009 12:09:36 PM (2842 views)

ALTA 7 Coverage/Claim - Angela Martin/AR
4/9/2009 12:48:02 PM (3205 views)
Re: ALTA 7 Coverage/Claim - Robert Franco/OH
4/9/2009 2:56:15 PM (3432 views)
Manufactured Home vs. Mobile Home - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
4/10/2009 9:14:30 AM (3137 views)
Re: Manufactured Home vs. Mobile Home - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/10/2009 10:30:56 AM (3054 views)
Re: Manufactured Home vs. Mobile Home - george Hubka/MI
4/26/2009 3:47:17 PM (2760 views)
Re: ALTA 7 Coverage/Claim - Jeanine Johnson/FL
4/13/2009 1:29:50 PM (2822 views)




FALL THROUGHS - Ray Young/GA
4/9/2009 11:15:14 AM (3149 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Wanda Steudel/OH
4/9/2009 11:35:22 AM (3112 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Ray Young/GA
4/9/2009 11:44:05 AM (2948 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Robert Franco/OH
4/9/2009 11:50:44 AM (2908 views)

I don't do it.  It really makes very little difference whether they close or not.  We did the work, we spent our time on the search and we need to be compensated for it.  The only logic for discounting those that cancel is that there will be no liability incurred on the search if it isn't actually used by the client.  That would be meaningful if we actually built the potential liability in to the price of our searches.  Unfortunately, that is rarely the case these days. 

Think about this... if you do 2 full searches a day, five days a week, and the average policy issued is $200,000 - there is $20.8 Million dollars of potential liability on those.  There is now way to really estimate how many of those searches could result in claims, but we do know that about one-third of all searches disclose (or should disclose) title problems that need to be fixed (According to ALTA).  And you also have to consider that most claims arise within 5 years.  So add up your potential liability for all the work you have done for the past 5 years.  It is probably in the tens of millions of dollars, but even one claim can easily run in to the hundreds of thousands of dollars.  Are you adequately compendated for your liability?  We certainly are not. 

Due to competition, demands of clients to continually lower prices, and a lack of bargaining power on the part of abstractors, the fees we charge really only compensate us for our time and basic overhead costs.  We should all be building in some cost for the potential liability we incur, but that is just not realistic in our market.  However, if we were able to charge extra for this liability, it may make sense to reduce the fee on the orders that do not close and thus, do not expose us to any liability for potential claims.

Anyway, that is how I look at it and we do not discount our fees if the orders do not close.  We simply cannot afford to because there is no extra fee built in to the price for this potential liability. 

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: FALL THROUGHS - Diane Cipa/PA
4/9/2009 3:45:34 PM (2867 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Robert Franco/OH
4/9/2009 6:13:59 PM (2872 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Diane Cipa/PA
4/10/2009 8:55:57 AM (2841 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Robert Franco/OH
4/10/2009 10:24:49 AM (2893 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Diane Cipa/PA
4/13/2009 4:57:41 PM (2864 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Helene /GA
4/9/2009 10:43:09 PM (2800 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Jean Lurtsema/AK
4/13/2009 11:28:46 AM (2650 views)

NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - James Badertscher/OH
4/8/2009 12:37:31 PM (3125 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/8/2009 1:29:32 PM (3008 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - Robert Franco/OH
4/8/2009 2:37:12 PM (3035 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/9/2009 10:11:08 AM (3089 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - James Badertscher/OH
4/8/2009 2:53:31 PM (3002 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/9/2009 9:01:14 AM (2885 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - Diane Cipa/PA
4/9/2009 3:49:39 PM (2820 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - James Badertscher/OH
4/15/2009 12:56:01 PM (2762 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/15/2009 3:54:05 PM (2714 views)

A.S.K Services, Inc. - Edward Huguenin/SC
4/8/2009 4:36:11 AM (3339 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Smitty Strickland/SC
4/8/2009 9:56:01 AM (3336 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Robert Franco/OH
4/8/2009 10:27:58 AM (3392 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Edward Huguenin/SC
4/8/2009 11:12:58 AM (3119 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Smitty Strickland/SC
4/8/2009 4:25:10 PM (3171 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Stephanie /SC
4/8/2009 10:30:39 PM (3162 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Allen Wion/SC
4/13/2009 6:33:24 AM (3071 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Edward Huguenin/SC
4/13/2009 6:59:24 AM (3170 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Janis Talbot/SC
4/13/2009 8:51:02 AM (3114 views)

Mortgage fraud always surprises me.. - Diane Cipa/PA
4/7/2009 11:32:29 AM (2410 views)

Settlement Abstract -Brooklyn NY - Patrick/NY
4/7/2009 11:08:55 AM (2870 views)
Re: Settlement Abstract -Brooklyn NY - george Hubka/MI
4/26/2009 4:06:37 PM (2817 views)
Re: Settlement Abstract -Brooklyn NY - Patrick/NY
4/27/2009 8:36:59 AM (2782 views)

Reverse Mortgages and Mortgage Taxes - Jonathan  Cohen/MI
4/7/2009 10:19:45 AM (2905 views)
Re: Reverse Mortgages and Mortgage Taxes - Sandra Morton/KS
4/7/2009 3:13:34 PM (2957 views)
Re: Reverse Mortgages and Mortgage Taxes - Jonathan  Cohen/MI
4/9/2009 11:47:04 AM (2977 views)
Re: Reverse Mortgages and Mortgage Taxes - Robert Franco/OH
4/7/2009 3:17:11 PM (3038 views)
Re: Reverse Mortgages and Mortgage Taxes - Jonathan  Cohen/MI
4/9/2009 11:49:30 AM (2880 views)
Re: Reverse Mortgages and Mortgage Taxes - Jonathan  Cohen/MI
4/14/2009 9:25:34 AM (2739 views)

Ameristar - Sybil East/GA
4/6/2009 7:05:17 PM (3326 views)
Re: Ameristar - Patrick/NY
4/7/2009 8:26:48 AM (3314 views)
Re: Ameristar - David Pool/TX
4/10/2009 3:54:04 PM (3198 views)
Re: Ameristar - Robert Franco/OH
4/10/2009 4:02:32 PM (3220 views)
Re: Ameristar - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/11/2009 5:18:50 AM (3034 views)
Re: Ameristar - Sybil East/GA
4/13/2009 8:45:37 AM (3107 views)
Re: Ameristar - David Keeling/TX
4/13/2009 8:50:13 AM (3199 views)
Re: Ameristar - Alix Ott/MI
4/13/2009 9:26:06 AM (3075 views)
Re: Ameristar - Gina/VA
4/22/2009 2:30:41 PM (2950 views)
Re: Ameristar - Jean Lurtsema/AK
4/20/2009 11:33:24 AM (2977 views)
Re: Ameristar - Non Paying - jess barker/IL
4/16/2009 9:53:08 AM (3096 views)
Re: Ameristar - David Keeling/TX
4/20/2009 8:57:17 AM (3029 views)

Bulletin Service Upgrade - Robert Franco/OH
4/6/2009 11:56:24 AM (2504 views)

Granite Settlement-Maryland - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
4/4/2009 9:34:18 AM (2384 views)

Old Line Title-Maryland - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
4/4/2009 9:31:49 AM (2240 views)


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