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ALTA 7 Coverage/Claim - Angela Martin/AR
4/9/2009 12:48:02 PM (3385 views)
Re: ALTA 7 Coverage/Claim - Robert Franco/OH
4/9/2009 2:56:15 PM (3911 views)
Manufactured Home vs. Mobile Home - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
4/10/2009 9:14:30 AM (3594 views)
Re: Manufactured Home vs. Mobile Home - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/10/2009 10:30:56 AM (3435 views)
Re: Manufactured Home vs. Mobile Home - george Hubka/MI
4/26/2009 3:47:17 PM (3198 views)
Re: ALTA 7 Coverage/Claim - Jeanine Johnson/FL
4/13/2009 1:29:50 PM (3244 views)

FALL THROUGHS - Ray Young/GA
4/9/2009 11:15:14 AM (3307 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Wanda Steudel/OH
4/9/2009 11:35:22 AM (3555 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Ray Young/GA
4/9/2009 11:44:05 AM (3373 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Robert Franco/OH
4/9/2009 11:50:44 AM (3358 views)

I don't do it.  It really makes very little difference whether they close or not.  We did the work, we spent our time on the search and we need to be compensated for it.  The only logic for discounting those that cancel is that there will be no liability incurred on the search if it isn't actually used by the client.  That would be meaningful if we actually built the potential liability in to the price of our searches.  Unfortunately, that is rarely the case these days. 

Think about this... if you do 2 full searches a day, five days a week, and the average policy issued is $200,000 - there is $20.8 Million dollars of potential liability on those.  There is now way to really estimate how many of those searches could result in claims, but we do know that about one-third of all searches disclose (or should disclose) title problems that need to be fixed (According to ALTA).  And you also have to consider that most claims arise within 5 years.  So add up your potential liability for all the work you have done for the past 5 years.  It is probably in the tens of millions of dollars, but even one claim can easily run in to the hundreds of thousands of dollars.  Are you adequately compendated for your liability?  We certainly are not. 

Due to competition, demands of clients to continually lower prices, and a lack of bargaining power on the part of abstractors, the fees we charge really only compensate us for our time and basic overhead costs.  We should all be building in some cost for the potential liability we incur, but that is just not realistic in our market.  However, if we were able to charge extra for this liability, it may make sense to reduce the fee on the orders that do not close and thus, do not expose us to any liability for potential claims.

Anyway, that is how I look at it and we do not discount our fees if the orders do not close.  We simply cannot afford to because there is no extra fee built in to the price for this potential liability. 

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: FALL THROUGHS - Diane Cipa/PA
4/9/2009 3:45:34 PM (3293 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Robert Franco/OH
4/9/2009 6:13:59 PM (3279 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Diane Cipa/PA
4/10/2009 8:55:57 AM (3287 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Robert Franco/OH
4/10/2009 10:24:49 AM (3334 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Diane Cipa/PA
4/13/2009 4:57:41 PM (3287 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Helene /GA
4/9/2009 10:43:09 PM (3218 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Jean Lurtsema/AK
4/13/2009 11:28:46 AM (3074 views)

NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - James Badertscher/OH
4/8/2009 12:37:31 PM (3278 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/8/2009 1:29:32 PM (3424 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - Robert Franco/OH
4/8/2009 2:37:12 PM (3470 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/9/2009 10:11:08 AM (3533 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - James Badertscher/OH
4/8/2009 2:53:31 PM (3435 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/9/2009 9:01:14 AM (3307 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - Diane Cipa/PA
4/9/2009 3:49:39 PM (3251 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - James Badertscher/OH
4/15/2009 12:56:01 PM (3181 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/15/2009 3:54:05 PM (3140 views)

A.S.K Services, Inc. - Edward Huguenin/SC
4/8/2009 4:36:11 AM (3499 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Smitty Strickland/SC
4/8/2009 9:56:01 AM (3795 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Robert Franco/OH
4/8/2009 10:27:58 AM (3832 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Edward Huguenin/SC
4/8/2009 11:12:58 AM (3599 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Smitty Strickland/SC
4/8/2009 4:25:10 PM (3599 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Stephanie /SC
4/8/2009 10:30:39 PM (3581 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Allen Wion/SC
4/13/2009 6:33:24 AM (3545 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Edward Huguenin/SC
4/13/2009 6:59:24 AM (3609 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Janis Talbot/SC
4/13/2009 8:51:02 AM (3605 views)

Mortgage fraud always surprises me.. - Diane Cipa/PA
4/7/2009 11:32:29 AM (2540 views)




Settlement Abstract -Brooklyn NY - Patrick/NY
4/7/2009 11:08:55 AM (3041 views)
Re: Settlement Abstract -Brooklyn NY - george Hubka/MI
4/26/2009 4:06:37 PM (3235 views)
Re: Settlement Abstract -Brooklyn NY - Patrick/NY
4/27/2009 8:36:59 AM (3170 views)

Reverse Mortgages and Mortgage Taxes - Jonathan  Cohen/MI
4/7/2009 10:19:45 AM (3094 views)
Re: Reverse Mortgages and Mortgage Taxes - Sandra Morton/KS
4/7/2009 3:13:34 PM (3393 views)
Re: Reverse Mortgages and Mortgage Taxes - Jonathan  Cohen/MI
4/9/2009 11:47:04 AM (3467 views)
Re: Reverse Mortgages and Mortgage Taxes - Robert Franco/OH
4/7/2009 3:17:11 PM (3484 views)
Re: Reverse Mortgages and Mortgage Taxes - Jonathan  Cohen/MI
4/9/2009 11:49:30 AM (3301 views)
Re: Reverse Mortgages and Mortgage Taxes - Jonathan  Cohen/MI
4/14/2009 9:25:34 AM (3153 views)

Ameristar - Sybil East/GA
4/6/2009 7:05:17 PM (3495 views)
Re: Ameristar - Patrick/NY
4/7/2009 8:26:48 AM (3744 views)
Re: Ameristar - David Pool/TX
4/10/2009 3:54:04 PM (3625 views)
Re: Ameristar - Robert Franco/OH
4/10/2009 4:02:32 PM (3644 views)
Re: Ameristar - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/11/2009 5:18:50 AM (3454 views)
Re: Ameristar - Sybil East/GA
4/13/2009 8:45:37 AM (3538 views)
Re: Ameristar - David Keeling/TX
4/13/2009 8:50:13 AM (3628 views)
Re: Ameristar - Alix Ott/MI
4/13/2009 9:26:06 AM (3522 views)
Re: Ameristar - Gina/VA
4/22/2009 2:30:41 PM (3392 views)
Re: Ameristar - Jean Lurtsema/AK
4/20/2009 11:33:24 AM (3404 views)
Re: Ameristar - Non Paying - jess barker/IL
4/16/2009 9:53:08 AM (3525 views)
Re: Ameristar - David Keeling/TX
4/20/2009 8:57:17 AM (3440 views)

Bulletin Service Upgrade - Robert Franco/OH
4/6/2009 11:56:24 AM (2615 views)

Granite Settlement-Maryland - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
4/4/2009 9:34:18 AM (2588 views)

Old Line Title-Maryland - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
4/4/2009 9:31:49 AM (2395 views)

Nationwide Title Clearing - Glenda Hodge/TN
4/2/2009 10:42:27 PM (3630 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Dan Zook/NY
4/3/2009 9:36:25 AM (3723 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - george Hubka/MI
4/19/2009 9:10:35 PM (3372 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Robb Grandon/MI
4/6/2009 9:13:48 AM (3675 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Glenda Hodge/TN
4/6/2009 12:33:55 PM (3593 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Michele  Peele/NC
6/1/2009 1:52:13 PM (3521 views)

Help, need Info on Trademarks - george Hubka/MI
4/1/2009 10:01:40 PM (2817 views)
Re: Help, need Info on Trademarks - Robert Franco/OH
4/3/2009 9:45:26 AM (5288 views)

Commercial 40 year searches - Steve/RI
4/1/2009 7:40:14 PM (3440 views)
Re: Commercial 40 year searches - Robert Franco/OH
4/1/2009 8:07:50 PM (3589 views)
Re: Commercial 40 year searches - marilyn snyder/FL
4/2/2009 12:11:28 PM (3437 views)
Re: Commercial 40 year searches - Robert Franco/OH
4/2/2009 12:31:01 PM (3507 views)
Re: Commercial 40 year searches - Jessica Talley/NJ
4/2/2009 12:54:27 PM (3486 views)
Re: Commercial 40 year searches - PHILIP YIANILOS/VA
4/6/2009 4:21:48 AM (3478 views)
Re: Commercial 40 year searches - John MacFarland/OH
4/6/2009 7:48:10 AM (3405 views)
Re: Commercial 40 year searches - Alix Ott/MI
4/13/2009 9:36:05 AM (3318 views)
Re: Commercial 40 year searches - Robert Franco/OH
4/13/2009 10:07:13 AM (3197 views)
Re: Commercial 40 year searches - William Pattison /CA
4/14/2009 10:02:03 PM (3321 views)

Companies in Maryland - Patrick/NY
4/1/2009 4:43:22 PM (2787 views)
Re: Companies in Maryland - Andrew Veliuona/MD
4/15/2009 10:27:25 AM (2978 views)


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