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scope of search beginning date - Nathan Miller/KY
1/6/2009 7:54:26 PM (3382 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - THURBER & ASSOCIATES INC THURBER/ME
1/6/2009 9:34:28 PM (3990 views)
Start date ... - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/7/2009 7:55:36 AM (4101 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - James "Lin" Toney/MS
1/7/2009 10:02:10 AM (3956 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - Robert Franco/OH
1/7/2009 1:43:09 PM (4013 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - Patrick Scott/IL
1/7/2009 11:06:09 PM (4059 views)

I'm in Robert's camp on this one.  I don't think there is really any need for a start date.  And, as Nathan mentioned in his original post, it could cause a recipient to question whether judgments have been searched for the proper number of years.

In my opinion, a search for open liens, whether it be a current owner, two owner, or any other limited search, should arrive at the customer showing all open liens.  This, to me, means that the abstractor searches to an acceptable point of beginning - even if it means searching back through the records of a prior owner.  It's not often around here, but we still occasionally run across an assumed mortgage. More often, I think, a mortgage recorded out of sequence.  The only exception I would place on that rule is in the event that the customer specifically requested a date to run forward.  I would then note those instructions on the search.

I am curious as to why a state's being a race-notice state would have any bearing on either your start date or your end date.  I think in most jurisdictions a lower document number would indicate priority in recording, would it not?  And, many counties, if not most or all, even stamp the time of recording on the document.  In our local counties, we use the cover date certified by the recorder.  This indicates that the recorder has posted all documents recorded up to the end of that day.  So, I guess that might be why I never have given the race-notice wrinkle any thought in that regard.  What's there is there as of the closing of the recorder's office on that given date.

As an aside, I believe that most states are now race-notice.  Illinois is one of them.  That doesn't stop the recorders in the larger counties from establishing their own recording priorities.  For example, large stacks of deeds and mortgages delivered by a title company may sit in the 'things to do eventually' basket, while a person can also walk up to the recording counter with a small number of instruments and see them recorded on the spot.  Hmmmm.

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Re: scope of search beginning date - David Keeling/TX
1/12/2009 8:57:07 PM (3547 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - Kenneth Signor/SC
1/12/2009 8:13:11 AM (3576 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - James "Lin" Toney/MS
1/12/2009 8:55:47 PM (3617 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - William Pattison /CA
1/12/2009 12:14:16 PM (3849 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - James "Lin" Toney/MS
1/12/2009 8:58:58 PM (3588 views)

Platinum Abstracting Services - Edward Huguenin/SC
1/6/2009 5:36:15 PM (3828 views)
Re: Platinum Abstracting Services - Eric Paluselli/NC
1/8/2009 11:55:29 AM (4384 views)
Re: Platinum Abstracting Services - Edward Huguenin/SC
1/8/2009 7:46:43 PM (3904 views)
Re: Platinum Abstracting Services - David Keeling/TX
1/12/2009 9:40:50 PM (3820 views)
Re: Platinum Abstracting Services - Edward Huguenin/SC
1/13/2009 7:56:34 AM (3661 views)

Group9,inc (PA) - Carlton Johnson/NY
1/6/2009 10:30:44 AM (3955 views)
Re: Group9,inc (PA) - J Nisonger/CA
1/6/2009 2:13:05 PM (4399 views)
Re: Group9,inc (PA) - Patrick/NY
1/6/2009 3:42:58 PM (7545 views)
Re: Group9,inc (PA) - john franz/NJ
1/7/2009 11:25:48 AM (4336 views)

United One Resources - Edward Huguenin/SC
1/4/2009 4:02:16 PM (3683 views)
Re: United One Resources - Marie Taylor/MD
1/12/2009 8:53:47 AM (3979 views)

NALTEA Members - Meeting & Elections Jan.19th! - Patrick Scott/IL
1/2/2009 11:14:11 PM (2595 views)


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Boon Docs - VIVIAN SLYKER/OH
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Re: Boon Docs - Susan McKee/WV
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Re: Boon Docs - Jack Johanson/PA
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Kevin Ahern - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Kevin Ahern - James "Lin" Toney/MS
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Re: Kevin Ahern - Joan Howland/CT
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Re: Kevin Ahern - SM/IL
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Re: Kevin Ahern - Robert Franco/OH
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CT TITLE SEARCHERS NEEDED - JACQUELINE PURCELL/CT
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The Kreller Group - Cincinnati, OH - Dan Zook/NY
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Theft of Services... - Tracy/PA
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Re: Theft of Services... - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Theft of Services... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Theft of Services... - Eric Gustitus/PA
1/5/2009 1:08:10 PM (4585 views)
Re: Theft of Services... - Robert Franco/OH
1/5/2009 9:43:48 PM (4682 views)

Corporate Abstract Services, NY - Laura Johnston/MI
12/29/2008 5:19:56 PM (3939 views)
Re: Corporate Abstract Services, NY - Glenda Hodge/TN
12/29/2008 11:22:26 PM (4785 views)
Re: Corporate Abstract Services, NY - Dan Zook/NY
12/30/2008 9:54:05 AM (4681 views)
Re: Corporate Abstract Services, NY - Laura Johnston/MI
1/2/2009 2:02:37 PM (4394 views)

New York Title Abstract - Lumar/NJ
12/29/2008 4:50:54 PM (3615 views)
Re: New York Title Abstract - Ron McPherson/IA
12/31/2008 2:34:52 AM (4570 views)
Re: New York Title Abstract - Lucille Femine/NJ
1/1/2009 7:36:49 PM (4497 views)

PA people: Have you heard of these guys? - Alix Ott/MI
12/29/2008 1:44:29 PM (3910 views)
Re: PA people: Have you heard of these guys? - george Hubka/MI
1/1/2009 9:40:41 PM (4637 views)

A "thank you & happy new year" to Robert! - Alix Ott/MI
12/29/2008 11:25:10 AM (3515 views)
Re: A "thank you & happy new year" to Robert! - Dan Zook/NY
12/29/2008 11:45:52 AM (4748 views)
Re: A "thank you & happy new year" to Robert! - Glenda Hodge/TN
12/29/2008 11:23:45 PM (4674 views)
Re: A "thank you & happy new year" to Robert! - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2008 2:44:03 PM (4642 views)
Re: A "thank you & happy new year" to Robert! - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/30/2008 9:32:50 AM (4637 views)

Career Dilemma - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2008 9:34:12 AM (4027 views)
Re: Career Dilemma - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/29/2008 5:14:31 PM (4974 views)
Re: Career Dilemma - Robert Franco/OH
12/30/2008 9:39:47 AM (4783 views)
Re: Career Dilemma - Anthony Joseph/TX
12/30/2008 11:10:19 AM (4901 views)


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