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Lenders First Choice - J Nisonger/CA
7/30/2008 5:33:23 PM (12549 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/30/2008 5:40:00 PM (5460 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - J Nisonger/CA
7/30/2008 5:47:35 PM (5117 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/30/2008 5:53:27 PM (5118 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - J Nisonger/CA
7/30/2008 6:02:20 PM (4931 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Laurie E/MD
7/30/2008 6:37:30 PM (4958 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Kenneth Signor/SC
7/30/2008 6:44:52 PM (5039 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/30/2008 6:56:37 PM (6218 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Kenneth Signor/SC
7/30/2008 7:03:24 PM (4916 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Matt Papsch/MD
7/30/2008 7:26:01 PM (4984 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Ron McPherson/IA
7/31/2008 1:04:22 AM (4978 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Dan Zook/NY
7/31/2008 6:11:15 AM (5047 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Diane Cipa/PA
7/31/2008 6:51:40 AM (5241 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Lucille Femine/NJ
7/31/2008 7:53:41 AM (4965 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Lucille Femine/NJ
7/31/2008 7:57:24 AM (4993 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Lucille Femine/NJ
8/4/2008 9:31:18 AM (4703 views)
phone number - Diane Cipa/PA
8/4/2008 11:09:36 AM (4666 views)
Re: phone number - Matt Papsch/MD
8/16/2008 12:37:45 AM (4514 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Dinah  Stallworth/LA
8/4/2008 9:11:00 AM (4695 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Barbara Kelley/PA
8/4/2008 8:07:04 AM (4727 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Patricia Turley/MI
8/4/2008 9:00:58 AM (4938 views)
bankruptcy - Diane Cipa/PA
8/4/2008 11:13:15 AM (4728 views)
Re: bankruptcy - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/4/2008 11:22:41 AM (4655 views)
Re: bankruptcy - Diane Cipa/PA
8/4/2008 12:14:03 PM (4605 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Denys Ferreiro/FL
8/5/2008 4:24:07 PM (4596 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Diane Cipa/PA
8/5/2008 5:32:33 PM (4623 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Denys Ferreiro/FL
8/5/2008 11:40:38 PM (4782 views)

Mercury Companies closing offices - Diane Cipa/PA
7/30/2008 11:05:13 AM (5156 views)

Contracting directly with banks - Wendy Waddell/PA
7/30/2008 11:00:51 AM (4003 views)
Re: Contracting directly with banks - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/30/2008 7:08:39 PM (4566 views)
Try local "brick & motar" - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
8/4/2008 10:52:17 AM (4302 views)

EXAM-NET - Dont work for this company - Greg Paszkiewicz/NJ
7/30/2008 8:22:16 AM (3259 views)

gDocs / Examnet / ECom - Craig Honeker/AZ
7/29/2008 1:53:08 PM (4141 views)
Re: gDocs / Examnet / ECom - Jay Duncan/MO
7/29/2008 5:56:29 PM (5046 views)
Re: gDocs / Examnet / ECom - Scott Aduddell/MO
8/7/2008 10:48:02 AM (4569 views)




Performance Report - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
7/28/2008 10:47:20 PM (3742 views)
Re: Performance Report - Sandra Morton/KS
7/29/2008 9:55:38 AM (4656 views)
Re: Performance Report - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/29/2008 10:29:14 AM (4673 views)
Re: Performance Report - george Hubka/MI
7/29/2008 8:38:53 PM (4577 views)
Re: Performance Report- reply - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/29/2008 9:04:46 PM (4439 views)
Re: Performance Report - charles jetter/OH
7/30/2008 6:57:16 AM (4464 views)
Re: Performance Report - Dan Zook/NY
7/30/2008 9:35:33 AM (4440 views)
Re: Performance Report - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/30/2008 7:21:22 PM (4436 views)
Re: Performance Report - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/30/2008 9:01:16 PM (4466 views)
Re: Performance Report - Dan Zook/NY
7/31/2008 6:05:19 AM (4445 views)
Re: Performance Report - J Nisonger/CA
7/31/2008 2:01:01 PM (4290 views)

Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/27/2008 4:12:01 PM (4039 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Scott Perry/PA
7/28/2008 7:21:35 AM (4356 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/28/2008 10:05:49 AM (4412 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Robert Franco/OH
7/28/2008 11:19:45 AM (4200 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/28/2008 1:59:23 PM (4444 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Scott Perry/PA
7/28/2008 4:30:38 PM (4443 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Scott Perry/PA
7/28/2008 8:07:31 PM (4418 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/29/2008 7:26:11 AM (4297 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Scott Perry/PA
7/29/2008 3:58:36 PM (4236 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/29/2008 4:41:21 PM (4275 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Robert Franco/OH
7/29/2008 10:10:39 PM (4156 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Scott Perry/PA
7/30/2008 12:42:06 AM (4284 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/30/2008 5:06:15 PM (4247 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/30/2008 6:09:51 AM (4234 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Scott Perry/PA
7/30/2008 7:13:45 AM (4157 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/30/2008 8:24:40 AM (4228 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Scott Perry/PA
7/30/2008 10:03:47 AM (4146 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/30/2008 11:07:10 AM (4159 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - michael quinn/NY
7/30/2008 1:37:29 PM (4297 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Scott Perry/PA
7/30/2008 1:51:44 PM (4137 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - michael quinn/NY
7/30/2008 4:43:42 PM (4208 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Scott Perry/PA
7/30/2008 1:47:15 PM (4157 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/31/2008 5:32:27 PM (4158 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Scott Perry/PA
7/31/2008 11:42:10 PM (4036 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/1/2008 5:09:54 AM (4213 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Douglas Gallant/OH
8/1/2008 3:08:57 PM (4088 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Scott Perry/PA
8/1/2008 5:17:37 PM (4092 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Douglas Gallant/OH
8/1/2008 8:03:59 PM (4118 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Scott Perry/PA
8/1/2008 9:37:24 PM (4181 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/2/2008 6:56:23 AM (4116 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Scott Perry/PA
8/2/2008 12:35:52 PM (4178 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Douglas Gallant/OH
8/2/2008 3:51:18 PM (4130 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Scott Perry/PA
8/4/2008 12:08:11 AM (6886 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/3/2008 8:37:28 AM (3993 views)
Hey, Kevin! - Scott Perry/PA
8/3/2008 11:06:31 PM (4165 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - Scott Perry/PA
8/1/2008 1:33:04 AM (3977 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - charles jetter/OH
7/31/2008 8:23:43 AM (3920 views)
Re: Help is on the way-(MAYBE) - charles jetter/OH
7/31/2008 8:20:26 AM (4012 views)

I don't even know - Norean Cashwell/GA
7/25/2008 10:40:13 PM (3866 views)
Re: I don't even know - Lynn Hammett/SC
8/6/2008 2:03:05 PM (6364 views)
Re: I don't even know - Dave Pell/GA
8/6/2008 4:38:42 PM (4174 views)

maybe this is old news. someone just e-mailed it to me - I don't know where they got it - Diane Cipa/PA
7/23/2008 1:38:31 PM (4542 views)
Re: maybe this is old news. someone just e-mailed it to me - I don't know where they got it - Jay Duncan/MO
7/23/2008 1:52:09 PM (4581 views)
Great Response Robert!! - David Bloys/TX
7/24/2008 1:40:30 AM (4537 views)
Re: Great Response Robert!! - Scott Perry/PA
7/24/2008 7:48:14 AM (4508 views)
Re: Great Response Robert!! - Robert Franco/OH
7/24/2008 1:11:11 PM (4465 views)
Re: Great Response Robert!! - Diane Cipa/PA
7/28/2008 9:36:58 AM (4327 views)
Re: maybe this is old news. someone just e-mailed it to me - I don't know where they got it - Diane Brewer/SC
7/28/2008 9:38:29 AM (4393 views)

Titlesearch USA, Inc. - . APS/NY
7/23/2008 9:38:01 AM (4168 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA, Inc. - Alix Ott/MI
7/23/2008 12:20:19 PM (4611 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA, Inc. - Robert Franco/OH
7/23/2008 12:25:29 PM (4690 views)

Certified Copies In Delaware - Robert Franco/OH
7/22/2008 1:29:46 PM (5442 views)
Re: Certified Copies In Delaware - george Hubka/MI
7/22/2008 7:14:40 PM (4436 views)
Re: Certified Copies In Delaware - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/22/2008 7:31:59 PM (4481 views)
Re: Certified Copies In Delaware - Robert Franco/OH
7/22/2008 9:48:38 PM (4337 views)

First American Document Solutions - Edward Huguenin/SC
7/21/2008 5:02:49 PM (5228 views)
Re: First American Document Solutions - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/21/2008 10:07:57 PM (5036 views)
Re: First American Document Solutions - Edward Huguenin/SC
7/22/2008 1:53:06 AM (4862 views)
Re: First American Document Solutions - Sandra Morton/KS
7/22/2008 5:15:19 PM (4843 views)
Re: First American Document Solutions - Theresa Ritz/WV
7/28/2008 10:04:34 PM (5127 views)
Re: First American Document Solutions - DebiLyn Carr/SC
7/22/2008 8:53:20 PM (5223 views)
Re: First American Document Solutions - Michael Vernon/AZ
7/28/2008 2:11:42 PM (4822 views)

Liability vs Fees per transaction - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/18/2008 12:46:54 PM (3816 views)
Re: Liability vs Fees per transaction - Robert Franco/OH
7/18/2008 1:48:28 PM (4890 views)

Clearly, abstractors have the highest potential for losses in relation to fees charged.  But, that whole system is skewed when you look at it that way.  Realtors probably have the least amount of liability and they have the highest fees of the bunch.  The only fee of those mentioned that bears any relationship to claims is the title insurance premium.  That is because it is the only fee that is specifically for insurance.  All of the other fees are for services performed.

Sellers find it worth the fees to have a Realtor find a qualified buyer and to get them the highest possible price.  Whether they are all worth the 6% commission is certainly debatable.  But, the sellers get to choose that for themselves. 

Surveyors are hired by the lenders, just as abstractors are hired by the title companies.  The fees that surveyors and abstractors charge are not based on the liability they incur.  For the most part, the fees are based on the time it takes to prepare an appraisal or title search, plus operating overhead.  I'm not sure about appraisers, but abstractors are traditionally short sighted when it comes to figuring their overhead.  They assume that if it takes them 2 hours to do a full search and they charge $100, they are making the equivalent of $50/hr.  Obviously, that is oversimplified and extremely inaccurate. However, the point is that abstractors price their services too low and the availability of cheaper services makes it much more difficult for some who would like to charge more to do so.

Abstractor's fees are based on market forces like supply and demand, not liability.  They are caught in a rut because there is too much competition among abstractors.  They do not have a strong lobbying group like the NAR to establish customary fees.  Nobody wants to be the first to declare their fees will be based on the purchase price, or mortgage amount.  The clients would find it much more simple to go to another abstractor who charges a fixed, lower fee and there would be many options available to them.

In short... the low fees are the fault of the abstractors as a group.  For the most part there is no regulatory body (except in a few states that regulate abstractors) that have anything to with establishing the fees.  Nor is there an organization capable of uniting the abstractors into a national fee arrangement. 

Best,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

 

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Re: Liability vs Fees per transaction - charles jetter/OH
7/30/2008 7:29:03 AM (4653 views)
Re: Liability vs Fees per transaction - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Liability vs Fees per transaction - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
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Re: Liability vs Fees per transaction - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Stable Regions in The Midst Of Meltdown - David Bloys/TX
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Title Express, Inc. - South Bend, IN - Jill Kissell/IA
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