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Moonpie! - J Nisonger/CA
5/30/2008 6:20:46 PM (3874 views)
Re: Moonpie! - monica froese/ME
5/30/2008 6:43:56 PM (4201 views)
Re: Moonpie! - Patrick Scott/IL
5/30/2008 7:06:47 PM (4035 views)
Re: Moonpie! - Scott Perry/PA
5/30/2008 8:49:15 PM (4231 views)
Re: Moonpie! - Glenda Hodge/TN
5/30/2008 11:35:04 PM (4171 views)
Re: Moonpie! - J Nisonger/CA
6/5/2008 2:16:20 AM (4322 views)
Re: Moonpie! - J Nisonger/CA
6/7/2008 7:04:28 PM (4058 views)
Re: Moonpie! - Glenda Hodge/TN
6/8/2008 12:21:27 AM (4037 views)
Re: Moonpie! - J Nisonger/CA
6/7/2008 7:09:28 PM (4094 views)
Re: Moonpie! - Lynn Hammett/SC
5/31/2008 12:13:48 AM (4300 views)
Re: Moonpie! - Rob  Robinson/PA
5/31/2008 10:03:29 AM (4144 views)
Re: Moonpie! - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/4/2008 11:54:43 PM (4552 views)
Re: Moonpie! - Glenda Hodge/TN
6/5/2008 9:49:16 AM (4067 views)
Re: Moonpie Festival - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/5/2008 10:08:25 AM (4222 views)
Re: Moonpie Festival - Lynn Dukes/SC
6/6/2008 10:02:41 AM (4359 views)
Re: Moonpie! - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/6/2008 11:23:39 AM (4087 views)

Flagship Title, Hampton VA - Amy Tatusko/VA
5/30/2008 10:58:55 AM (4573 views)
Re: Flagship Title, Hampton VA - Lynne Goodwin/VA
5/30/2008 11:45:18 AM (4505 views)
Re: Six hour turn time - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/30/2008 1:34:20 PM (4409 views)
Re: Six hour turn time - martha campbell/VA
6/2/2008 6:53:29 AM (4241 views)
Re: Flagship Title, Hampton VA - martha campbell/VA
6/2/2008 6:20:43 AM (4213 views)
Re: Flagship Title, Hampton VA - Teresa Martin/VA
2/2/2011 11:01:39 PM (5372 views)

Northwest Title & Escrow (Vandanais Heights, MN) - Michaela Urban/OH
5/29/2008 12:09:58 PM (4014 views)
Re: Northwest Title & Escrow (Vandanais Heights, MN) - george Hubka/MI
6/1/2008 10:06:07 PM (4065 views)

Top excuses for not paying vendors - . APS/NY
5/27/2008 8:41:27 PM (4187 views)
Re: Top excuses for not paying vendors - Lucille Femine/NJ
5/27/2008 11:18:57 PM (4588 views)
Re: Top excuses for not paying vendors - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/28/2008 6:45:54 AM (4482 views)
Re: Top excuses for not paying vendors - Robb Grandon/MI
5/31/2008 5:01:11 PM (4285 views)
Re: Top excuses for not paying vendors - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/31/2008 5:51:12 PM (4187 views)
Re: Top excuses for not paying vendors - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2008 12:05:20 PM (4373 views)
Re: Top excuses for not paying vendors - Scott Perry/PA
5/28/2008 12:31:18 PM (5085 views)
Re: Top excuses for not paying vendors - Rob  Robinson/PA
5/28/2008 4:04:06 PM (4454 views)
Re: Top excuses for not paying vendors - Matthew Sharpe/OH
6/2/2008 4:30:17 PM (4170 views)
Re: Top excuses for not paying vendors - William Pattison /CA
6/2/2008 5:20:07 PM (4305 views)
Re: Top excuses for not paying vendors - Scott Perry/PA
6/2/2008 5:39:46 PM (4315 views)
Re: Top excuses for not paying vendors - Rob  Robinson/PA
6/4/2008 2:46:11 PM (4124 views)

Junk Fee - Robert Franco/OH
5/27/2008 4:45:53 PM (3810 views)
Re: Junk Fee - Scott Perry/PA
5/27/2008 5:02:28 PM (4323 views)
Re: Junk Fee - Patrick Scott/IL
5/27/2008 10:37:29 PM (4360 views)

Well, if you want full disclosure, you certainly have it there.  Outlandish as the fee may be, they are not simply marking up the appraisal.  What you are describing seems to be a rare instance of full compliance with RESPA and TILA (in their current incarnations).

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Re: Junk Fee - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2008 12:10:00 PM (4405 views)
Re: Junk Fee - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/27/2008 11:52:26 PM (4267 views)
Re: Junk Fee - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2008 12:11:34 PM (4273 views)
Re: Junk Fee - Clanci Nelson/OH
5/28/2008 1:38:32 PM (4413 views)
Re: Junk Fee - charles jetter/OH
5/29/2008 7:24:58 AM (4238 views)
Re: Junk Fee - Scott Perry/PA
5/29/2008 10:27:11 AM (4293 views)




Lets Search for title in India - David Bloys/TX
5/27/2008 12:57:12 AM (5471 views)
Re: Lets Search for title in India - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/27/2008 9:11:03 AM (4428 views)
Re: Lets Search for title in India - David Bloys/TX
5/27/2008 10:18:08 AM (4447 views)
Re: Lets Search for title in India - Rob  Robinson/PA
5/27/2008 12:43:13 PM (4259 views)
Re: Lets Search for title in India - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/27/2008 2:36:57 PM (4386 views)
Re: Lets Search for title in India - Rob  Robinson/PA
5/28/2008 3:31:35 PM (4273 views)
Re: Lets Search for title in India - Lynn Hammett/SC
5/29/2008 10:32:18 AM (4191 views)
Re: Lets Search for title in India - David Bloys/TX
5/29/2008 11:06:12 AM (4210 views)
Re: Lets Search for title in India - charles jetter/OH
5/29/2008 7:27:09 AM (4293 views)
Re: Lets Search for title in India - David Bloys/TX
5/29/2008 11:08:50 AM (4478 views)
Re: Lets Search for title in India - Rob  Robinson/PA
5/30/2008 9:00:06 AM (4312 views)
Re: Lets Search for title in India - Rahul/GA
10/14/2010 11:33:46 AM (4060 views)

Title Plant Software - Vikki Moffitt/GA
5/25/2008 5:33:55 PM (6579 views)
Re: Title Plant Software - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/26/2008 9:23:36 PM (4937 views)
Re: Title Plant Software - Vikki Moffitt/GA
5/27/2008 9:22:35 AM (4378 views)
Re: Title Plant Software - Melinda Barcum, J.D./AL
5/27/2008 12:38:25 PM (4555 views)
Re: Title Plant Software - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/27/2008 2:14:54 PM (4319 views)
Re: Title Plant Software - Stephen Williams/MO
5/29/2008 2:08:18 PM (4555 views)
Re: Title Plant Software - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/29/2008 4:31:55 PM (4522 views)
Re: Title Plant Software - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/4/2008 7:24:54 PM (4268 views)
Re: Title Plant Software - Vikki Moffitt/GA
6/4/2008 7:42:13 PM (4232 views)
Re: Title Plant Software - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/4/2008 8:58:33 PM (4311 views)

on the subject of RESPA reform - Diane Cipa/PA
5/23/2008 10:58:14 PM (3681 views)
Re: on the subject of RESPA reform - Patrick Scott/IL
5/25/2008 12:24:32 AM (4341 views)
Re: on the subject of RESPA reform - Diane Cipa/PA
5/27/2008 2:31:32 PM (4110 views)

Global Data Source, LLC (TitlePrep) - Edward Huguenin/SC
5/23/2008 12:08:18 PM (8334 views)
Re: Global Data Source, LLC (TitlePrep) - Sandra Morton/KS
6/2/2008 10:08:26 AM (4568 views)
Re: Global Data Source, LLC (TitlePrep) - Edward Huguenin/SC
6/2/2008 6:09:05 PM (4557 views)
Re: Global Data Source, LLC (TitlePrep) - Margaret Tobin/NC
6/12/2008 3:22:55 PM (4533 views)
Re: Global Data Source, LLC (TitlePrep) - Brenadette Turner/OH
9/22/2016 12:58:38 PM (2676 views)

Obama Update! - Kurt deVries/FL
5/23/2008 9:25:56 AM (4040 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Scott Perry/PA
5/23/2008 10:38:08 AM (6977 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/23/2008 12:46:19 PM (4093 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Robert Franco/OH
5/23/2008 1:49:08 PM (4088 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Kurt deVries/FL
5/23/2008 2:17:07 PM (3971 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Chuck Y/NY
5/23/2008 2:25:25 PM (3901 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Kurt deVries/FL
5/23/2008 2:28:02 PM (3964 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Chuck Y/NY
5/23/2008 2:37:24 PM (3903 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Scott Perry/PA
5/23/2008 3:17:23 PM (6649 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Chuck Y/NY
5/23/2008 3:25:21 PM (4067 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Scott Perry/PA
5/23/2008 3:38:04 PM (6880 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Chuck Y/NY
5/23/2008 4:05:14 PM (3879 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Scott Perry/PA
5/23/2008 4:25:12 PM (3873 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Robert Franco/OH
5/23/2008 3:56:35 PM (6401 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Scott Perry/PA
5/23/2008 4:03:34 PM (6670 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Scott Perry/PA
5/23/2008 4:35:37 PM (3954 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Robert Franco/OH
5/23/2008 2:53:04 PM (3832 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Kurt deVries/FL
5/23/2008 3:00:09 PM (3989 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Lucille Femine/NJ
5/27/2008 9:34:32 AM (3943 views)
Re: Obama Update! - john franz/NJ
5/27/2008 10:59:30 AM (4007 views)
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5/27/2008 3:32:57 PM (3917 views)
Re: Obama Update! - J Nisonger/CA
5/27/2008 7:23:19 PM (3877 views)
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Re: Obama Update! - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2008 12:03:49 PM (3778 views)
Re: Obama Update! - J Nisonger/CA
5/30/2008 6:13:18 PM (3699 views)
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Re: Obama Update! - michael quinn/NY
5/31/2008 4:01:15 AM (3742 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/31/2008 6:30:45 AM (3681 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Scott Perry/PA
5/31/2008 11:22:06 AM (3845 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/31/2008 1:26:25 PM (3915 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Scott Perry/PA
5/31/2008 11:14:58 PM (3649 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/2/2008 8:20:31 AM (3658 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Obama Update! - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/2/2008 9:24:16 AM (3554 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Obama Update! - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/2/2008 10:31:28 AM (3666 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Scott Perry/PA
6/2/2008 12:14:09 PM (3650 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Robert Franco/OH
6/2/2008 11:19:47 AM (3574 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/2/2008 11:31:34 AM (3588 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Scott Perry/PA
6/2/2008 12:20:27 PM (3539 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Scott Perry/PA
6/4/2008 3:38:40 PM (6078 views)
Re: Obama Update! - J Nisonger/CA
6/7/2008 8:41:36 PM (3495 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Scott Perry/PA
5/28/2008 12:38:53 PM (3653 views)
Re: Obama Update! - michael quinn/NY
5/28/2008 10:28:25 PM (3752 views)
Re: Obama Update! - michael quinn/NY
5/28/2008 10:28:27 PM (3686 views)
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Re: Obama Update! - michael quinn/NY
5/28/2008 10:52:07 PM (3717 views)
Re: Obama Update! - john franz/NJ
6/2/2008 2:13:38 PM (3393 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Scott Perry/PA
6/2/2008 5:30:29 PM (3417 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Chuck Y/NY
6/4/2008 10:55:28 AM (3483 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Scott Perry/PA
6/4/2008 11:59:23 AM (3274 views)
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6/5/2008 10:07:31 AM (3236 views)
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6/5/2008 6:09:40 PM (3115 views)
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6/5/2008 11:39:36 AM (3120 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Chuck Y/NY
6/5/2008 1:16:34 PM (3239 views)
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6/5/2008 2:09:45 PM (4748 views)
Re: Obama Update! - michael quinn/NY
6/5/2008 2:01:34 PM (3270 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Scott Perry/PA
6/5/2008 2:12:16 PM (3144 views)
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6/5/2008 2:24:49 PM (3094 views)
Re: Obama Update! - michael quinn/NY
6/5/2008 2:43:11 PM (3114 views)
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6/5/2008 2:48:09 PM (3085 views)
Re: Obama Update! - michael quinn/NY
6/5/2008 3:38:15 PM (3292 views)
Re: Obama Update! - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/5/2008 8:28:23 PM (3127 views)
Re: Obama Update! - michael quinn/NY
6/7/2008 11:49:33 PM (3236 views)
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Re: Obama Update! - Janis Talbot/SC
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Re: Obama Update! - Scott Perry/PA
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6/9/2008 7:52:19 AM (3265 views)
Re: Obama Update! - charles jetter/OH
6/9/2008 8:44:09 AM (3170 views)

iMortgage Services - Pat/NY
5/21/2008 9:28:30 AM (4093 views)
Re: iMortgage Services - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/21/2008 9:56:50 AM (4494 views)
Re: iMortgage Services - Pat/NY
5/21/2008 10:15:50 AM (4314 views)
Re: iMortgage Services - Vikki Moffitt/GA
5/21/2008 11:33:36 AM (4334 views)
Re: iMortgage Services - george Hubka/MI
5/26/2008 7:53:10 PM (4337 views)
Re: iMortgage Services - J Nisonger/CA
5/27/2008 7:42:27 PM (4348 views)
Re: iMortgage Services - george Hubka/MI
5/29/2008 9:23:10 AM (4282 views)

KKRB - Rachel Lallman/OH
5/20/2008 2:02:26 PM (3452 views)

Grand Info Inc - Joanie Hahr/VT
5/19/2008 10:17:34 AM (4248 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/19/2008 10:22:21 PM (4203 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Laura Darby/OH
5/20/2008 9:27:12 AM (4057 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Virginia Capps/TN
5/20/2008 6:22:17 PM (3985 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
5/21/2008 5:54:07 PM (6992 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
5/21/2008 11:59:20 PM (3973 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
5/22/2008 12:39:10 PM (3835 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
5/22/2008 11:51:15 PM (3823 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - . APS/NY
5/23/2008 6:01:44 AM (3967 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
5/31/2008 4:39:05 PM (3773 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robert Franco/OH
5/31/2008 8:32:54 PM (3651 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/1/2008 7:13:40 AM (3641 views)
Grand Info, etc. - Dave Pell/GA
6/1/2008 4:57:59 PM (3629 views)
Re: Grand Info, etc. - Robert Franco/OH
6/1/2008 6:08:14 PM (3699 views)
Re: Grand Info, etc. - Scott Perry/PA
6/1/2008 6:58:07 PM (3754 views)
Re: Grand Info, etc. - Vikki Moffitt/GA
6/1/2008 7:33:23 PM (3993 views)
Re: Grand Info, etc. - michael quinn/NY
6/2/2008 12:45:10 AM (3532 views)
Re: Grand Info, etc. - michael quinn/NY
6/2/2008 12:45:15 AM (3648 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/23/2008 7:06:17 AM (4057 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - J Nisonger/CA
5/25/2008 1:29:02 PM (3988 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - george Hubka/MI
5/26/2008 8:07:53 PM (3814 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Diane O'Neill/MI
5/27/2008 9:21:05 AM (3683 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - michael quinn/NY
5/27/2008 12:04:39 AM (3840 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
5/31/2008 4:46:36 PM (3665 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robert Franco/OH
5/31/2008 8:38:23 PM (4370 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
5/31/2008 9:32:29 PM (3658 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
5/27/2008 6:56:59 AM (3808 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Diane O'Neill/MI
5/27/2008 9:07:19 AM (3889 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
6/1/2008 8:06:33 PM (3606 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Rob  Robinson/PA
6/9/2008 11:12:54 PM (3591 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
6/10/2008 12:03:22 AM (3731 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Rob  Robinson/PA
6/10/2008 2:21:52 AM (3612 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - michael quinn/NY
6/10/2008 3:08:32 AM (3684 views)
One more thing to add... - Robert Franco/OH
6/10/2008 10:35:40 AM (3677 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - michael quinn/NY
6/10/2008 2:04:12 AM (3774 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/10/2008 7:53:22 AM (3600 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robert Franco/OH
6/10/2008 10:42:36 AM (3527 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - michael quinn/NY
6/10/2008 11:37:16 PM (3705 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
6/11/2008 4:53:19 PM (3665 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
5/31/2008 4:51:49 PM (3500 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
6/1/2008 7:57:56 PM (3695 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - george Hubka/MI
6/1/2008 10:57:20 PM (3394 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - george Hubka/MI
6/1/2008 10:52:34 PM (3509 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
6/3/2008 1:41:49 PM (3640 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - michael quinn/NY
6/3/2008 6:32:57 PM (3507 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Joanie Hahr/VT
6/24/2008 6:54:25 PM (3580 views)

Pilot Search Company - Lucille Femine/NJ
5/19/2008 9:08:34 AM (4015 views)
Re: Pilot Search Company - Chuck Y/NY
5/19/2008 1:38:31 PM (4296 views)
Re: Pilot Search Company - george Hubka/MI
5/19/2008 8:56:38 PM (4020 views)
Re: Pilot Search Company - Lucille Femine/NJ
5/20/2008 12:11:48 PM (4068 views)
Re: Pilot Search Company - Lucille Femine/NJ
5/20/2008 12:09:43 PM (4015 views)
Re: Pilot Search Company - Mark Forbes/NY
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HUD LISTINGS - Matt Pardue/KY
5/15/2008 5:23:43 PM (3848 views)
Re: HUD LISTINGS - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/16/2008 10:20:39 AM (6856 views)
Re: HUD LISTINGS - Matt Pardue/KY
5/17/2008 9:22:52 PM (3906 views)


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