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Jim Girardi - Jay Duncan/MO
7/6/2006 4:46:34 PM (2901 views)
Re: Jim Girardi - Jim Girardi/NY
7/6/2006 9:41:14 PM (3530 views)
Re: Jim Girardi - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2006 11:54:19 AM (3700 views)
Re: Jim Girardi - Jay K/MD
7/8/2006 10:58:53 AM (3576 views)
Re: Jim Girardi - Kurt deVries/FL
7/10/2006 11:02:11 AM (3571 views)
Re: Jim Girardi - Jim Girardi/NY
7/11/2006 11:07:18 PM (3335 views)
Re: Jim Girardi - Jay K/MD
7/21/2006 2:07:16 AM (3330 views)

Trip fees- Multiple recordings- One for the independent abstractors - Matt Papsch/MD
7/6/2006 3:50:45 PM (2861 views)
Re: Trip fees- Multiple recordings- One for the independent abstractors - Mason Haas/NY
7/6/2006 8:17:00 PM (3735 views)
Re: Trip fees- Multiple recordings- One for the independent abstractors - Loretta Reed/MD
7/6/2006 8:28:27 PM (3808 views)
Re: Trip fees- Multiple recordings- One for the independent abstractors - Matt Papsch/MD
7/6/2006 9:45:58 PM (3398 views)
Re: Trip fees- Multiple recordings- One for the independent abstractors - Scott Perry/PA
7/6/2006 10:42:27 PM (3546 views)
Re: Trip fees- Multiple recordings- One for the independent abstractors - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2006 11:59:40 AM (3845 views)
Re: Trip fees- Multiple recordings- One for the independent abstractors - Matt Papsch/MD
7/7/2006 12:07:24 PM (3795 views)
Re: Trip fees- Multiple recordings- One for the independent abstractors - Scott Perry/PA
7/7/2006 8:55:57 PM (3841 views)
Re: Trip fees- Multiple recordings- One for the independent abstractors - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/8/2006 7:43:21 AM (3645 views)
Re: Trip fees- Multiple recordings- One for the independent abstractors - Scott Perry/PA
7/8/2006 11:16:00 AM (3469 views)
Re: Trip fees- Multiple recordings- One for the independent abstractors - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/9/2006 5:20:43 AM (3524 views)
Re: Trip fees- Multiple recordings- One for the independent abstractors - Scott Perry/PA
7/9/2006 1:59:26 PM (3666 views)
Re: Trip fees- Multiple recordings- One for the independent abstractors - Robert Franco/OH
7/7/2006 11:58:00 AM (3735 views)
Re: Trip fees- Multiple recordings- One for the independent abstractors - Matt Papsch/MD
7/7/2006 12:01:57 PM (3556 views)
Re: Trip fees- Multiple recordings- One for the independent abstractors - Robert Franco/OH
7/7/2006 12:13:42 PM (3658 views)
Re: Trip fees- Multiple recordings- One for the independent abstractors - Scott Perry/PA
7/8/2006 11:31:18 AM (3599 views)

Contemporary Realty - Eboni/VA
7/6/2006 11:01:52 AM (2925 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Danielle Nelson/WI
7/6/2006 12:08:40 PM (3890 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - David Bloys/TX
7/6/2006 9:06:58 PM (3671 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Lori Cassidy/CT
7/12/2006 3:16:45 PM (3511 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Dorothy Payne/NY
7/12/2006 11:48:43 PM (3475 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Elisa Butler/PA
7/13/2006 10:54:20 PM (3565 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Jim Girardi/NY
7/18/2006 9:16:39 AM (3451 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Jay Duncan/MO
7/18/2006 9:36:59 AM (3383 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Jim Girardi/NY
7/18/2006 12:13:49 PM (3432 views)

Commercial Search Fees - Wendi See/SC
7/6/2006 10:53:35 AM (3101 views)
Re: Commercial Search Fees - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/6/2006 6:01:17 PM (3721 views)
Re: Commercial Search Fees - Wendi See/SC
7/6/2006 9:43:38 PM (3662 views)
Re: Commercial Search Fees - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/8/2006 4:10:04 PM (3652 views)
Re: Commercial Search Fees - Wendi See/SC
7/8/2006 8:33:34 PM (3605 views)
Re: Commercial Search Fees - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/10/2006 9:02:09 PM (3493 views)
Re: Commercial Search Fees - Robert Franco/OH
7/7/2006 12:05:37 PM (3799 views)
Re: Commercial Search Fees - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/8/2006 4:17:21 PM (3589 views)
Re: Commercial Search Fees - Robb Grandon/OH
7/8/2006 6:06:38 PM (3634 views)
Re: Commercial Search Fees - Sandra Morton/KS
7/10/2006 9:56:33 AM (3585 views)

NATIONWIDE APPRAISAL... - Michael /KS
7/5/2006 6:46:27 PM (3066 views)
Re: NATIONWIDE APPRAISAL... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/6/2006 8:34:57 AM (3878 views)
Re: NATIONWIDE APPRAISAL... - Angelica Schneider/IN
7/6/2006 8:18:51 PM (3476 views)
Re: NATIONWIDE APPRAISAL... - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/7/2006 7:39:41 PM (3694 views)
Re: NATIONWIDE APPRAISAL... - Robb Grandon/OH
7/8/2006 6:12:39 PM (3497 views)
Re: NATIONWIDE APPRAISAL... - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/9/2006 5:29:26 AM (3693 views)
Re: NATIONWIDE APPRAISAL... - Jill Kissell/IA
7/10/2006 2:08:43 PM (3371 views)
Nationwide.... - Michael Toebe/KS
7/11/2006 5:59:33 PM (3400 views)
Re: NATIONWIDE APPRAISAL... - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
7/11/2006 6:00:07 PM (3436 views)
yes, gas prices.. - Michael Toebe/KS
7/11/2006 6:23:00 PM (3631 views)
Re: yes, gas prices.. - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/11/2006 6:52:02 PM (3440 views)
Re: yes, gas prices.. - Robert Franco/OH
7/11/2006 11:08:22 PM (3464 views)
Re: yes, gas prices.. - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2006 7:18:44 AM (3451 views)
Re: yes, gas prices.. - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/13/2006 10:17:19 AM (3521 views)


Real Title Services


I think I'm done consulting...... - George Booth/OH
7/5/2006 4:51:02 PM (2987 views)
Re: I think I'm done consulting...... - Rachel Malone/PA
7/5/2006 7:10:09 PM (3667 views)
Re: I think I'm done consulting...... - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2006 11:53:16 AM (3446 views)
Re: I think I'm done consulting...... - Rachel Malone/PA
7/7/2006 12:43:24 PM (3542 views)
Re: I think I'm done consulting...... - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2006 12:50:49 PM (3660 views)
Re: I think I'm done consulting...... - Rachel Malone/PA
7/7/2006 1:07:33 PM (3579 views)
Re: I think I'm done consulting...... - George Booth/OH
7/5/2006 7:36:13 PM (3767 views)

PROPERTY DOCUMENT NETWORK - ANDREW MOLLER/CT
7/5/2006 3:22:19 PM (2800 views)
Re: PROPERTY DOCUMENT NETWORK - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2006 12:00:28 PM (3467 views)

How do you build your title search business through out your state - Margaret Tobin/NC
7/5/2006 1:38:41 AM (2751 views)
Re: How do you build your title search business through out your state - Angelica Schneider/IN
7/5/2006 8:47:07 AM (3780 views)

Liability over 1M? - Nathan Miller/KY
7/2/2006 8:47:16 PM (2996 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Julie Jasiunas/WI
7/2/2006 10:37:23 PM (3706 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/3/2006 5:30:40 AM (3679 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Scott Perry/PA
7/3/2006 9:37:24 AM (4250 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/3/2006 10:29:28 AM (4115 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Ricky Farrow/FL
7/3/2006 11:30:28 AM (3968 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/3/2006 12:15:31 PM (3964 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Robert Franco/OH
7/3/2006 12:46:51 PM (4110 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Scott Perry/PA
7/3/2006 3:19:00 PM (3879 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Mason Haas/NY
7/3/2006 3:12:57 PM (3758 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/3/2006 3:39:11 PM (3990 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Ricky Farrow/FL
7/3/2006 6:07:26 PM (4018 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/4/2006 6:47:02 AM (4042 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Robert Franco/OH
7/4/2006 2:37:56 PM (3944 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Ricky Farrow/FL
7/4/2006 11:23:56 PM (3752 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/5/2006 5:46:04 AM (3900 views)

There are other laws that come into play in addition to RESPA. As far as I know RESPA requires proper rendition of core services and accurate reporting of the fees for these services. There is nothing contained in RESPA which prohibits a title insurer from attempting to recover its losses for having paid a just claim.

Whether the abstractor is negligent depends on whether his conduct in performing the search met the reasonable standard of care associated with performing a title search. This would be established through the testimony of expert witnesses presented by both the plaintiff and the defendant at trial. Both esperts would offer testimony as to the required "reasonable standard of care" and they would then offer an expert opinion as to whether the defendant abstractor's conduct met the required standard of care. Based on the credibility of this expert testimony the jury or judge (in a trial by the bench) will render a verdict or judgment  (in a trial by the bench)..

The difficult scenario to accept in one in which the case is settled without trial, but the abstractor's policy is cancelled or his premiums go through the roof because the claim was asserted in the first place.

There are defenses available...was the missed encumbrance properly indexed?.... was the missed encumbrance within the time frame of the search ordered by the title insurer?...was the missed encumbrance recorded outside the chain of title?... has the statute of limitations run on the claim (in some states it does not begin to run until the abstrator's failure to report the encumbrance is discovered)? All of this is taken into account in determining whether the proper standard of care has been met.

When the abstractor issues a title abstract the title insurer that hired him is depending upon his abstract to report all encumbrances within the scope of the search that was ordered. It is based upon the abstract that the title insurer issues a title committment and subsequently a title insurance policy. The title insurer is on the hook to pay that claim because the abstractor may have failed to report it. It seems only fair that the abstractor should be held accountable for the damages resulting from his work. This is the risk that the abstractor accepts when he accepts the title search order from his client.

You have expressed some concern with the internet searches of on line systems and electronic title plants. I agree with your concern. The system has severe limitations. You should be careful in performing searches to supplement their systems. Could your work be deemed an extension of their system for which you could be held liable for negligence? I do not know the answer to that, but it does not mean that you could not be swept up as defendant in a suit for damages. Even if you were not negligent in performing your portion of the supplemental search, you would still need to go to the trouble and expenses of defending.

If you think that low prices paid for performing title searches do not justify the risks involved in performing the search, you should increase your prices accordingly. 

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Copy Fees - Julie Jasiunas/WI
6/29/2006 4:44:16 PM (2795 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Scott Perry/PA
6/29/2006 5:07:31 PM (3553 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Mason Haas/NY
6/29/2006 6:51:50 PM (3693 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Wendi See/SC
6/29/2006 9:10:36 PM (3677 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Angelica Schneider/IN
6/30/2006 9:19:37 AM (3537 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Brad McCollom/IN
6/30/2006 4:48:29 PM (3410 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Michaela Urban/OH
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Re: Copy Fees - Robb Grandon/OH
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Re: Copy Fees - Scott Perry/PA
7/8/2006 11:24:03 PM (3444 views)

Are title agencies in trouble? - Mason Haas/NY
6/29/2006 8:08:03 AM (3076 views)
Re: Are title agencies in trouble? - David Bloys/TX
6/29/2006 9:21:16 AM (5021 views)
Re: Are title agencies in trouble? - J Nisonger/CA
7/1/2006 12:33:56 AM (3695 views)
Re: Are title agencies in trouble? - David Bloys/TX
7/1/2006 1:35:46 AM (5037 views)

Quick Question?? - Michaela Urban/OH
6/28/2006 9:54:50 PM (2848 views)
Re: Quick Question?? - Barbara Bennett/IN
6/28/2006 10:04:51 PM (3697 views)
Re: Quick Question?? - Jay Duncan/MO
6/28/2006 10:50:06 PM (3638 views)
Re: Quick Question?? - Wanda Steudel/OH
6/29/2006 9:33:28 AM (3625 views)
Re: Quick Question?? - Michaela Urban/OH
7/3/2006 6:11:35 PM (3727 views)

Bringdown or Update - Margaret Tobin/NC
6/28/2006 6:59:29 PM (2912 views)
Re: Bringdown or Update - Scott Perry/PA
6/28/2006 8:10:48 PM (3836 views)
Re: Bringdown or Update - Margaret Tobin/NC
6/29/2006 8:51:35 AM (3812 views)
Re: Bringdown or Update - Wendi See/SC
6/29/2006 10:43:10 AM (3783 views)

Private Information for sale, order your copy now. - George Booth/OH
6/28/2006 12:18:28 PM (3886 views)
Re: Private Information for sale, order your copy now. - Scott Perry/PA
6/28/2006 12:52:59 PM (3804 views)
Re: Private Information for sale, order your copy now. - George Booth/OH
6/28/2006 1:15:05 PM (3796 views)
Re: Private Information for sale, order your copy now. - Jan Forster/NC
6/28/2006 1:18:09 PM (3651 views)
Re: Private Information for sale, order your copy now. - George Booth/OH
6/28/2006 2:51:49 PM (3628 views)
Re: Private Information for sale, order your copy now. - Scott Perry/PA
6/28/2006 6:09:38 PM (3667 views)
Re: Private Information for sale, order your copy now. - J Nisonger/CA
6/28/2006 3:30:38 PM (3712 views)
Re: Private Information for sale, order your copy now. - George Booth/OH
6/28/2006 5:42:47 PM (3639 views)

ValueAmerica - Wendy Waddell/PA
6/28/2006 7:52:34 AM (3042 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
6/28/2006 8:39:33 AM (3900 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Robert Franco/OH
6/28/2006 10:43:11 AM (3713 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Glenda Hodge/TN
6/28/2006 11:22:28 AM (3680 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Scott Perry/PA
6/28/2006 12:58:46 PM (3973 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/29/2006 6:25:38 AM (3760 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Angelica Schneider/IN
6/29/2006 4:56:38 PM (3879 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Glenda Hodge/TN
6/30/2006 3:16:46 AM (3838 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Scott Perry/PA
6/30/2006 7:52:17 AM (3738 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Angelica Schneider/IN
6/30/2006 9:13:17 AM (3720 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Robert Franco/OH
6/30/2006 10:46:27 AM (3551 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Glenda Hodge/TN
6/30/2006 11:49:47 AM (3474 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/30/2006 2:05:36 PM (3699 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Julie Jasiunas/WI
6/30/2006 12:12:33 PM (3579 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Glenda Hodge/TN
6/30/2006 12:33:20 PM (3643 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - J Nisonger/CA
6/30/2006 1:27:54 PM (3541 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Wanda Steudel/OH
6/30/2006 3:00:22 PM (4516 views)


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