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Cheryl Kitchell Need Help - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Cheryl Kitchell Need Help - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
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Re: Cheryl Kitchell Need Help - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Cheryl Kitchell Need Help - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
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Re: Cheryl Kitchell Need Help - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
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Re: Cheryl Kitchell Need Help - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Cheryl Kitchell Need Help - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Cheryl Kitchell Need Help - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Cheryl Kitchell Need Help - George Booth/OH
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Re: Cheryl Kitchell Need Help - Wendi See/SC
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Re: Cheryl Kitchell Need Help - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Cheryl Kitchell Need Help - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Cheryl Kitchell Need Help - Sam Borum/FL
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Re: Cheryl Kitchell Need Help - J Nisonger/CA
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Accuquick Abstracting - Deborah Manion/VA
6/1/2006 10:53:25 AM (4154 views)
Re: Accuquick Abstracting - Candis Richter/NJ
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Re: Accuquick Abstracting - Norean/GA
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Re: Accuquick Abstracting - Patty Baber/NJ
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Re: Accuquick Abstracting - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Accuquick Abstracting - Patty Baber/NJ
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Re: Accuquick Abstracting - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Accuquick Abstracting - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Accuquick Abstracting - Scott Tregurtha/NJ
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Re: Accuquick Abstracting - Norean /GA
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Re: Accuquick Abstracting - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Accuquick Abstracting - Scott Tregurtha/NJ
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Re: Accuquick Abstracting - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Accuquick Abstracting - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Accuquick Abstracting - Scott Perry/PA
6/6/2006 2:14:39 PM (6095 views)

Sign of the times. - George Booth/OH
6/1/2006 10:45:57 AM (3735 views)
Re: Sign of the times. - Dave Pell/GA
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Re: Sign of the times. - George Booth/OH
6/1/2006 11:07:49 AM (6143 views)
Re: Sign of the times. - Victoria Moate/NJ
6/5/2006 12:58:08 AM (5712 views)
Re: Sign of the times. - Jim Girardi/NY
6/6/2006 4:58:01 PM (5923 views)

Robert - J Nisonger/CA
6/1/2006 9:56:10 AM (3171 views)

Volume Discounts - Robb Grandon/OH
5/31/2006 9:27:42 AM (3691 views)
Re: Volume Discounts - Robert Franco/OH
5/31/2006 11:13:24 AM (7612 views)
Re: Volume Discounts - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/31/2006 11:30:33 AM (6361 views)
Re: Volume Discounts - Scott Perry/PA
5/31/2006 5:28:23 PM (6375 views)
Re: Volume Discounts - J Nisonger/CA
6/1/2006 10:08:56 AM (6725 views)
Re: Volume Discounts - Scott Perry/PA
6/1/2006 4:51:36 PM (6447 views)
Re: Volume Discounts - J Nisonger/CA
6/1/2006 6:13:54 PM (6807 views)
Re: Volume Discounts - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
6/1/2006 9:47:41 PM (6382 views)
Re: Volume Discounts - Scott Perry/PA
6/2/2006 7:55:53 AM (6494 views)
Re: Volume Discounts - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
6/2/2006 9:35:54 AM (6658 views)
Re: Volume Discounts - Robert Franco/OH
6/2/2006 2:03:13 PM (6402 views)
Re: Volume Discounts - Scott Perry/PA
6/2/2006 5:11:03 PM (6396 views)
Re: Volume Discounts - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
6/2/2006 5:49:46 PM (6321 views)
Re: Volume Discounts - Scott Perry/PA
6/3/2006 12:11:29 PM (6473 views)
Re: Volume Discounts - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/4/2006 1:51:19 PM (6323 views)
Re: Volume Discounts - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
6/4/2006 5:53:11 PM (6248 views)

You got it Lisa- I was saying the same thing without recognizing that different localities or customs might be lumping fees on the HUD- here in Virginia they list the abstract or title fee on line 1102 and a title examination fee on lines 1103-(this is rarely done anymore while it is a line for the settlement companies to bilk the customer without their knowledge) doc prep, commitment and title insurance fees all have separate lines to show the fees charged for those line items and that was my basic inquiry as to how they were accounting for the additional fees, since  marking up is a section 8 violation and subject to heavy fines- if the title fee is 100, 125 or 225, no matter what, that is supposed to be listed on the  HUD exactly as it is, anything other than that can be interpreted as "marking up" the fee.Let me be a little more clear, I know that is being done, everyday, by unscrupulous persons in unscrupulous settlement companies- all with the apparent blessing of the title companies and it is being treated as just another way for the agents to collect more money, when in fact the abstracter/ title examiner should be reaping the rewards for having done his or her job , then take the liability-which , as Scott so clearly points out, is far greater than anyone else in the chain of feeding sharks  assumes when an error occurs and you have the injustice we all face everyday-I would just like to point out what you have recognized is the riping off of the title person in this whole sequence of events. And we complain about the discounting of fees-when I get a request for fees I always let the company know that my charges are the same as must appear on the appropriate lines on the HUD, let them add their own line " consumer rip off fee" or "golf vacation fee for settlement agent" and they can explain that themselves. As it is right now ,we as title examiners, are looked on as being paid pretty well when the HUD shows us getting $300 to $800 per transaction!! I have a copy of a HUD-1 that shows, on a number of lines so as to confuse the poor property owners, a total fee paid to the abstract company of - now get your deposit slips out and see if any of yours match up with this-total abstract fees =$425- settlement fees=$295, title exam fee=$495 and doc prep fee=$395- that adds up to $1510 in fees. And they got away with it! This was a refi(second time they did this with the same settlement company) with a loan amount of $300k. Just hope more become aware of how we are , unknowingly , being portrayed to the general public that use our services.

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One More County Taking Records Off-Line - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/31/2006 8:30:55 AM (4774 views)
Re: One More County Taking Records Off-Line - Ellen Malloy/MO
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Re: One More County Taking Records Off-Line - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Payment in Advance - Deborah Manion/VA
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Re: Payment in Advance - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Payment in Advance - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Payment in Advance - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Payment in Advance - David Keeling/TX
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Re: Payment in Advance - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Payment in Advance - Angelica Schneider/IN
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Re: Payment in Advance - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Titlesearch USA - Robb Grandon/OH
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Need Info Please - Norean Cashwell/GA
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Re: Need Info Please - Norean Cashwell/GA
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Re: Need Info Please - Angelica Schneider/IN
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Title Searches in other Countries.. - Angelica Schneider/IN
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Re: Title Searches in other Countries.. - George Booth/OH
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Re: Title Searches in other Countries.. - Angelica Schneider/IN
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Re: Title Searches in other Countries.. - David Bloys/TX
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Remembering Our Nation's Unsung Heroes - Scott Perry/PA
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India Outsourcing! - Kurt deVries/FL
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OHIO SB 185 requires title searcher's to maintain E & O - Pete Kisan/OH
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PaperPort11 Pro released - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
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THE FUTURE OF NALTEA - Scott Perry/PA
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