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greenlink fax - Frances Scheetz/PA
5/17/2006 5:58:00 PM (3792 views)
Re: greenlink fax - Ms. Moritz/FL
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Re: greenlink fax - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: greenlink fax - Robert Franco/OH
5/18/2006 10:13:15 AM (5312 views)
Re: greenlink fax - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/19/2006 11:08:36 AM (5213 views)
Re: greenlink fax - Frances Scheetz/PA
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Re: greenlink fax - HOPE DEZERN/SC
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Re: greenlink fax - DEANA BROADFOOT/AL
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Re: greenlink fax - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: greenlink fax - David Bloys/TX
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Re: greenlink fax - Frances Scheetz/PA
5/23/2006 7:39:49 AM (5166 views)
Re: greenlink fax - Scott Perry/PA
5/23/2006 8:43:15 AM (5181 views)

Bucking the Out Sourcing Trend - Robert Breakell/CT
5/12/2006 7:24:55 PM (4535 views)
Re: Bucking the Out Sourcing Trend - J Nisonger/CA
5/23/2006 11:44:35 PM (4784 views)

please read..... - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/12/2006 4:56:05 PM (3484 views)
Re: please read..... - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/12/2006 5:06:02 PM (4613 views)
Re: please read..... - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: please read..... - Jan Forster/NC
5/13/2006 12:29:17 AM (4478 views)
Re: please read..... - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/13/2006 7:55:46 AM (4360 views)
Questions about the plan - Jay Duncan/MO
5/13/2006 5:21:19 PM (4516 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Scott Perry/PA
5/13/2006 10:47:53 PM (4426 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Jay Duncan/MO
5/14/2006 12:04:22 AM (4414 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Vikki Moffitt/GA
5/14/2006 6:37:05 PM (4288 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Scott Perry/PA
5/14/2006 10:37:59 PM (4387 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Jay Duncan/MO
5/14/2006 11:29:06 PM (4313 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/15/2006 11:59:09 AM (4370 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/15/2006 1:14:44 PM (4304 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Jay Duncan/MO
5/15/2006 10:24:49 PM (4388 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2006 8:47:11 AM (4269 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/16/2006 9:36:52 AM (4267 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/16/2006 9:55:34 AM (4256 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2006 10:07:51 AM (4290 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/16/2006 9:53:06 AM (4270 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2006 10:16:53 AM (4198 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/16/2006 1:36:14 PM (4353 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2006 2:38:03 PM (4229 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2006 2:38:07 PM (4190 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/16/2006 3:09:02 PM (4102 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/16/2006 5:08:03 PM (4239 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/17/2006 6:40:02 AM (4233 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/17/2006 9:29:23 AM (4147 views)
Re: please read..... - Pete Kisan/OH
5/15/2006 8:15:15 AM (4350 views)
Re: please read..... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
5/16/2006 8:03:48 PM (5703 views)
Re: please read..... - David Bloys/TX
5/16/2006 9:16:09 PM (4249 views)
Re: please read..... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
5/16/2006 10:48:57 PM (4174 views)
Re: please read..... - Lynn Hammett/SC
5/16/2006 9:41:54 PM (5650 views)
Re: please read..... - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/17/2006 7:06:30 AM (4308 views)
Re: please read..... - Robert Franco/OH
5/17/2006 9:48:19 AM (5634 views)
Re: please read..... - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/17/2006 9:54:34 AM (4103 views)
Re: please read..... - Robert Franco/OH
5/17/2006 9:26:16 AM (4204 views)
Re: please read..... - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/17/2006 9:58:48 AM (4068 views)
Re: please read..... - Robert Franco/OH
5/17/2006 10:07:45 AM (4042 views)
Re: please read..... - John OConnor/IL
5/17/2006 10:33:41 AM (4143 views)
Re: please read..... - Robert Franco/OH
5/17/2006 11:36:50 AM (4080 views)
Re: please read..... - Lynn Hammett/SC
5/17/2006 4:40:38 PM (4106 views)
Re: please read..... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/18/2006 12:29:26 PM (4068 views)
Re: please read..... - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/18/2006 1:07:45 PM (4137 views)
Re: please read..... - Lori Cassidy/CT
5/22/2006 10:19:07 AM (4106 views)
Re: please read..... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/22/2006 10:32:14 AM (4093 views)
Re: please read..... - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/22/2006 3:17:34 PM (4101 views)
Re: please read..... - Scott Perry/PA
5/23/2006 12:52:46 AM (4090 views)

Beating the title insurers at their own game - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/12/2006 4:29:19 PM (3172 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
5/12/2006 5:11:47 PM (4487 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/13/2006 8:18:22 AM (4524 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - Scott Perry/PA
5/13/2006 10:28:08 AM (4593 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/13/2006 10:47:24 AM (4546 views)

Greenlink and Wachovia - Wendi See/SC
5/12/2006 1:36:00 PM (3479 views)
Re: Greenlink and Wachovia - HOPE DEZERN/SC
5/22/2006 1:05:32 PM (4424 views)
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Where is CMS??? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/11/2006 11:39:32 AM (3305 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Jay Duncan/MO
5/11/2006 11:51:07 AM (4622 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Where is CMS??? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/11/2006 3:28:26 PM (4657 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Robert Franco/OH
5/12/2006 11:27:50 AM (4511 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Where is CMS??? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Where is CMS??? - Scott Tregurtha/NJ
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Re: Where is CMS??? - Frances Scheetz/PA
5/17/2006 6:27:46 PM (4563 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Ricky Farrow/FL
5/25/2006 10:37:40 PM (4462 views)

Another Off-Topic Post... - Scott Perry/PA
5/11/2006 8:10:35 AM (4192 views)
Re: Another Off-Topic Post... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/11/2006 8:22:23 AM (4483 views)
Re: Another Off-Topic Post... - Scott Perry/PA
5/11/2006 4:20:52 PM (4312 views)

30...40...50 year??? - Jay Duncan/MO
5/10/2006 5:40:47 PM (3068 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Vikki Moffitt/GA
5/10/2006 7:56:56 PM (4635 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/10/2006 8:27:34 PM (4600 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Scott Perry/PA
5/10/2006 8:52:41 PM (4415 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - George Booth/OH
5/10/2006 10:05:19 PM (4670 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Jay Duncan/MO
5/11/2006 8:39:08 AM (4458 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Franco/OH
5/13/2006 5:17:39 PM (4167 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Breakell/CT
5/16/2006 6:45:49 PM (4070 views)

Error and Omissions Insurance - Christine Sheeler/PA
5/10/2006 9:01:31 AM (3051 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - Jay Duncan/MO
5/10/2006 9:58:02 AM (4851 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - J Nisonger/CA
5/10/2006 11:21:21 AM (4546 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - Angelica Schneider/IN
5/10/2006 1:50:10 PM (4421 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
5/10/2006 4:39:36 PM (4423 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - Christine Sheeler/PA
5/12/2006 8:47:22 AM (4306 views)

The Outsourcing Continues... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
5/9/2006 10:50:15 AM (2609 views)

Industry Veteran Passes Away - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
5/8/2006 1:21:24 PM (2490 views)

NALTEA question - Wendi See/SC
5/8/2006 11:30:21 AM (3058 views)
Re: NALTEA question - George Booth/OH
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Re: NALTEA question - Wanda Steudel/OH
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Re: NALTEA question - David Bloys/TX
5/9/2006 1:23:27 AM (6295 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/9/2006 7:21:04 AM (4725 views)
Re: NALTEA question - David Bloys/TX
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Re: NALTEA question - Jay Duncan/MO
5/9/2006 10:06:36 AM (4766 views)
Re: NALTEA question..long post - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/10/2006 8:56:40 AM (4861 views)

Jay:

I am no longer abstracting, but if I can help Naltea in an advisory capacity, please let me know. I will be happy to act as an advisor.

As a follow up to the above posting, I wanted to shed a little light:

Naltea Membership/Union:
    1.   I think that the problem Naltea may be facing with respect to membership is a general apathy accross the board with the abstractors. I think many of them have limited budgets, and are concerned with what they get in return for their annual membership fee. I think you have to take into account that they have limited budgets, and need to see a return on the investment. 

          When Naltea was formed the incentive was to obtain lower group health insurance rates and e&o rates. These are great ideas, and should be followed up, but possibly in a different method. My knowledge of Naltea is limited to posting on SOT, but as I understand it the insurance companies tied any reduction in premiums to effectuation of a training/certification program. As I understand it there was some problem with the program...not certain exactly what. The certification was a difficult task to include all the laws of the various states. I also think that it was too restrictive for experienced abstractors. Even the state bar associations offer alternatives to bar exam to attorneys with more than five years experience. The objective of obtaining the reduced e&o insurance premiums is a great idea, but I think the means of obtaining it need to be re-evaluated to accomplish it.

            In so far as a union is concerned, it is a concept that most abstractors understand in lieu of membership in a trade organization.
There are two ways to accomplish it. 

                    a.  Either contact an existing union of your choice and have them send union organizers. The draw back of this approach is that you have to answer to a national, and if some other group that they represent goes out on strike, the abstractors may be asked to do the same in sympathy. You also give up a lot of independence. 

                    b.  The preferable route is to form your own union exclusively for abstractors. You would have to contact a labor attorney to set you. (This is not an area in which I practice). You can organize and structure the by laws to the express needs and desires of the membership, and the abstractors remain in full control of their objectives. 

              What can a union offer the abstractor that Naltea is not... group reductions on auto insurance, life insurace and health insurance  and a retirement plan (similar to teachers unions). You could also make membership in Naltea an added benefit of membership in your union.

               What are the benefits of the union...more effective representation in the market among the title companies and vendor managers. ..better control of price negotiation for an abstractor's services without the counter threat of price fixing. In so far as the fears of abstractors having to pay union wages to their employees is concerned, these expenses can be included in the increased price of the client's doing business with the union members. Will the clients have the option of dealing with non union abstractors? Certainly, but hopefully you can attract enough union members to make the prospect unattractive, and you are still free to educate the client's client to whom he answers by the weak link theory explained below.

    2.     The weak link:

                 As explained above to find the weak link in the food chain it is necessary to travel up the chain to the party that ultimately controls the funding, and for whom everyone lower in the chain works.  The weak link needs to be educated to how his interests are being handeled, and whether there is a better method.

                 This approach is used in other industries. I personally saw it work when I worked for CBS. One of the major Ad Agencies in New York was buying 400 rating points per weak of television advertising in the Chicago market. That is a huge amount of money when spread across an advertising campaign of several weeks duration. The media buyer cut CBS out of the deal for whatever reason we do not know. We put together a sweet deal and approached the client directly to educate the client as to what was available, but which was not considered by the media buyer. It worked. There was a re-buy of the market in which CBS got its fair share of the deal. The first time this happens the buyer is called up on the carpet to explain himself. If it happens a second time, the buyer is fired. If it happens a third time the Ad Agency loses the account.

             I think the same approach could be used by the abstractors, if they are organized properly.

   3.      Promotion:

            I think the position of the abstractors could be improved if the title community and general public better understood the nature of the work performed and its importance. Institutional advertising could be used to accomplish this. You may need to hire an Ad Agency or PR firm to accomplish this, or possibly this is a function that Naltea could perform. I understand how to buy rating points in both television and radio, and will be happy to share the knowledge. I can also explain how the Neilsen ratings work. 

Anyway, Jay, just a few more thoughts on the subject.
 

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Re: NALTEA question..long post - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: NALTEA question..long post - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: NALTEA question..long post - George Booth/OH
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Hey Jan, thanks and continue the research!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Hey Jan, thanks and continue the research!!! - J Nisonger/CA
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What to do? - Michael Persyn/TX
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Re: What to do? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - monica froese/ME
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: What to do? - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: This is what we are doing in Suffolk County - Mason Haas/NY
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Re: What to do? - David Bloys/TX
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What if? - George Booth/OH
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PA Governor Signs Eminent Domain Law - Scott Perry/PA
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