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Beating the title insurers at their own game - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/12/2006 4:29:19 PM (3107 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
5/12/2006 5:11:47 PM (4376 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - David Bloys/TX
5/12/2006 10:47:50 PM (4472 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/13/2006 8:18:22 AM (4410 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - Scott Perry/PA
5/13/2006 10:28:08 AM (4474 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/13/2006 10:47:24 AM (4438 views)

Greenlink and Wachovia - Wendi See/SC
5/12/2006 1:36:00 PM (3438 views)
Re: Greenlink and Wachovia - HOPE DEZERN/SC
5/22/2006 1:05:32 PM (4310 views)
Re: Greenlink and Wachovia - Wendi See/SC
5/23/2006 12:48:37 PM (4283 views)

Where is CMS??? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/11/2006 11:39:32 AM (3238 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Jay Duncan/MO
5/11/2006 11:51:07 AM (4521 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/11/2006 11:55:32 AM (4512 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/11/2006 3:28:26 PM (4569 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Robert Franco/OH
5/12/2006 11:27:50 AM (4421 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/12/2006 2:55:31 PM (4343 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/13/2006 1:06:03 PM (4433 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Scott Tregurtha/NJ
5/22/2006 12:25:33 PM (4291 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Frances Scheetz/PA
5/17/2006 6:27:46 PM (4476 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Ricky Farrow/FL
5/25/2006 10:37:40 PM (4363 views)

Another Off-Topic Post... - Scott Perry/PA
5/11/2006 8:10:35 AM (4133 views)
Re: Another Off-Topic Post... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/11/2006 8:22:23 AM (4381 views)
Re: Another Off-Topic Post... - Scott Perry/PA
5/11/2006 4:20:52 PM (4188 views)

30...40...50 year??? - Jay Duncan/MO
5/10/2006 5:40:47 PM (3024 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Vikki Moffitt/GA
5/10/2006 7:56:56 PM (4543 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/10/2006 8:27:34 PM (4498 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Scott Perry/PA
5/10/2006 8:52:41 PM (4309 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - George Booth/OH
5/10/2006 10:05:19 PM (4558 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Jay Duncan/MO
5/11/2006 8:39:08 AM (4366 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Breakell/CT
5/11/2006 8:21:29 PM (4373 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Franco/OH
5/12/2006 3:29:34 PM (4124 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Breakell/CT
5/12/2006 7:07:03 PM (4452 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Franco/OH
5/13/2006 5:17:39 PM (4060 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Breakell/CT
5/16/2006 6:45:49 PM (3977 views)


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Error and Omissions Insurance - Christine Sheeler/PA
5/10/2006 9:01:31 AM (3001 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - Jay Duncan/MO
5/10/2006 9:58:02 AM (4749 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - J Nisonger/CA
5/10/2006 11:21:21 AM (4426 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - Angelica Schneider/IN
5/10/2006 1:50:10 PM (4334 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
5/10/2006 4:39:36 PM (4324 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - Christine Sheeler/PA
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The Outsourcing Continues... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
5/9/2006 10:50:15 AM (2586 views)

Industry Veteran Passes Away - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
5/8/2006 1:21:24 PM (2464 views)

NALTEA question - Wendi See/SC
5/8/2006 11:30:21 AM (3017 views)
Re: NALTEA question - George Booth/OH
5/8/2006 11:42:02 AM (4311 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/8/2006 2:36:24 PM (4455 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/8/2006 3:24:09 PM (4195 views)
Re: NALTEA question - George Booth/OH
5/8/2006 3:58:58 PM (4224 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/8/2006 5:48:38 PM (4324 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Jay Duncan/MO
5/8/2006 6:05:53 PM (4112 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/8/2006 6:42:07 PM (4232 views)
Re: NALTEA question - David Bloys/TX
5/9/2006 1:23:27 AM (6196 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/9/2006 7:21:04 AM (4626 views)
Re: NALTEA question - David Bloys/TX
5/9/2006 8:46:55 AM (4602 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Jay Duncan/MO
5/9/2006 10:06:36 AM (4677 views)
Re: NALTEA question..long post - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/10/2006 8:56:40 AM (4774 views)

Jay:

I am no longer abstracting, but if I can help Naltea in an advisory capacity, please let me know. I will be happy to act as an advisor.

As a follow up to the above posting, I wanted to shed a little light:

Naltea Membership/Union:
    1.   I think that the problem Naltea may be facing with respect to membership is a general apathy accross the board with the abstractors. I think many of them have limited budgets, and are concerned with what they get in return for their annual membership fee. I think you have to take into account that they have limited budgets, and need to see a return on the investment. 

          When Naltea was formed the incentive was to obtain lower group health insurance rates and e&o rates. These are great ideas, and should be followed up, but possibly in a different method. My knowledge of Naltea is limited to posting on SOT, but as I understand it the insurance companies tied any reduction in premiums to effectuation of a training/certification program. As I understand it there was some problem with the program...not certain exactly what. The certification was a difficult task to include all the laws of the various states. I also think that it was too restrictive for experienced abstractors. Even the state bar associations offer alternatives to bar exam to attorneys with more than five years experience. The objective of obtaining the reduced e&o insurance premiums is a great idea, but I think the means of obtaining it need to be re-evaluated to accomplish it.

            In so far as a union is concerned, it is a concept that most abstractors understand in lieu of membership in a trade organization.
There are two ways to accomplish it. 

                    a.  Either contact an existing union of your choice and have them send union organizers. The draw back of this approach is that you have to answer to a national, and if some other group that they represent goes out on strike, the abstractors may be asked to do the same in sympathy. You also give up a lot of independence. 

                    b.  The preferable route is to form your own union exclusively for abstractors. You would have to contact a labor attorney to set you. (This is not an area in which I practice). You can organize and structure the by laws to the express needs and desires of the membership, and the abstractors remain in full control of their objectives. 

              What can a union offer the abstractor that Naltea is not... group reductions on auto insurance, life insurace and health insurance  and a retirement plan (similar to teachers unions). You could also make membership in Naltea an added benefit of membership in your union.

               What are the benefits of the union...more effective representation in the market among the title companies and vendor managers. ..better control of price negotiation for an abstractor's services without the counter threat of price fixing. In so far as the fears of abstractors having to pay union wages to their employees is concerned, these expenses can be included in the increased price of the client's doing business with the union members. Will the clients have the option of dealing with non union abstractors? Certainly, but hopefully you can attract enough union members to make the prospect unattractive, and you are still free to educate the client's client to whom he answers by the weak link theory explained below.

    2.     The weak link:

                 As explained above to find the weak link in the food chain it is necessary to travel up the chain to the party that ultimately controls the funding, and for whom everyone lower in the chain works.  The weak link needs to be educated to how his interests are being handeled, and whether there is a better method.

                 This approach is used in other industries. I personally saw it work when I worked for CBS. One of the major Ad Agencies in New York was buying 400 rating points per weak of television advertising in the Chicago market. That is a huge amount of money when spread across an advertising campaign of several weeks duration. The media buyer cut CBS out of the deal for whatever reason we do not know. We put together a sweet deal and approached the client directly to educate the client as to what was available, but which was not considered by the media buyer. It worked. There was a re-buy of the market in which CBS got its fair share of the deal. The first time this happens the buyer is called up on the carpet to explain himself. If it happens a second time, the buyer is fired. If it happens a third time the Ad Agency loses the account.

             I think the same approach could be used by the abstractors, if they are organized properly.

   3.      Promotion:

            I think the position of the abstractors could be improved if the title community and general public better understood the nature of the work performed and its importance. Institutional advertising could be used to accomplish this. You may need to hire an Ad Agency or PR firm to accomplish this, or possibly this is a function that Naltea could perform. I understand how to buy rating points in both television and radio, and will be happy to share the knowledge. I can also explain how the Neilsen ratings work. 

Anyway, Jay, just a few more thoughts on the subject.
 

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Re: NALTEA question..long post - Robert Franco/OH
5/10/2006 11:23:23 AM (4324 views)
Re: NALTEA question..long post - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/10/2006 11:56:40 AM (4570 views)
Re: NALTEA question..long post - George Booth/OH
5/10/2006 1:20:00 PM (4414 views)
Re: NALTEA question..long post - Scott Perry/PA
5/11/2006 7:59:03 AM (4239 views)
Re: NALTEA question..long post - Vikki Moffitt/GA
5/14/2006 6:44:34 PM (4180 views)
Re: NALTEA question - George Booth/OH
5/8/2006 6:07:08 PM (4149 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/8/2006 6:49:30 PM (4326 views)
Re: NALTEA question - George Booth/OH
5/8/2006 7:55:07 PM (4567 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Scott Perry/PA
5/9/2006 12:06:59 AM (4237 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Wendi See/SC
5/9/2006 9:33:36 PM (4577 views)
Re: NALTEA question - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
5/10/2006 12:22:10 PM (4552 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Jan Forster/NC
5/10/2006 12:34:32 PM (6310 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Robert Breakell/CT
5/11/2006 8:35:10 PM (4288 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Jan Forster/NC
5/11/2006 9:38:12 PM (4273 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Robert Breakell/CT
5/12/2006 9:16:53 PM (4010 views)
Hey Jan, thanks and continue the research!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
5/12/2006 9:32:19 PM (4087 views)
Re: Hey Jan, thanks and continue the research!!! - J Nisonger/CA
6/14/2006 4:10:39 PM (3914 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/10/2006 1:46:38 PM (4258 views)
Re: NALTEA question - George Booth/OH
5/10/2006 9:59:44 PM (4303 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/11/2006 7:13:00 AM (4516 views)
Re: NALTEA question - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
5/11/2006 7:37:53 AM (4484 views)

What to do? - Michael Persyn/TX
5/8/2006 8:07:33 AM (2976 views)
Re: What to do? - Scott Perry/PA
5/8/2006 8:23:23 AM (4346 views)
Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
5/8/2006 7:00:31 PM (4258 views)
Re: What to do? - Scott Perry/PA
5/8/2006 7:30:55 PM (4242 views)
Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
5/10/2006 11:42:03 AM (4468 views)
Re: What to do? - Scott Perry/PA
5/10/2006 5:19:17 PM (4238 views)
Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
5/10/2006 5:58:01 PM (4175 views)
Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
5/10/2006 5:58:02 PM (4127 views)
Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
5/10/2006 5:58:04 PM (4101 views)
Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
5/10/2006 5:58:06 PM (4174 views)
Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
5/10/2006 5:58:06 PM (4153 views)
Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
5/10/2006 5:58:07 PM (4319 views)
Re: What to do? - monica froese/ME
5/10/2006 6:44:24 PM (4401 views)
Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
5/11/2006 2:22:19 PM (4136 views)
Re: What to do? - George Booth/OH
5/8/2006 10:02:42 AM (4297 views)
Re: What to do? - Patrick Scott/IL
5/8/2006 10:49:15 AM (5583 views)
Re: What to do? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/11/2006 8:13:06 AM (5396 views)
Re: What to do? - Jay Duncan/MO
5/11/2006 9:09:34 AM (4058 views)
Re: What to do? - Jeanne Johnson/FL
5/14/2006 6:13:36 PM (3990 views)
Re: This is what we are doing in Suffolk County - Mason Haas/NY
5/15/2006 8:50:55 AM (3944 views)
Re: What to do? - David Bloys/TX
5/15/2006 3:11:46 PM (5208 views)

What if? - George Booth/OH
5/5/2006 7:23:04 AM (2920 views)
Re: What if? - Scott Perry/PA
5/5/2006 7:41:54 AM (4352 views)
Re: What if? - Angelica Schneider/IN
5/5/2006 5:58:08 PM (4204 views)

PA Governor Signs Eminent Domain Law - Scott Perry/PA
5/4/2006 7:28:07 PM (3415 views)

One more question???? - J Nisonger/CA
5/4/2006 5:38:29 PM (3154 views)
Re: One more question???? - George Booth/OH
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Re: One more question???? - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: One more question???? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: One more question???? - Deborah Manion/VA
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Re: One more question???? - George Booth/OH
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Re: One more question????..I'm going to rant - Loretta Reed/MD
5/6/2006 11:19:35 AM (4445 views)
Re: One more question????..I'm going to rant - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/6/2006 11:30:10 AM (4424 views)
Re: One more question????.. - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
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Re: One more question???? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: One more question???? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: One more question???? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: One more question???? - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: One more question???? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: One more question???? - Gail Frey/CT
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Re: One more question???? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: One more question???? - Lori Cassidy/CT
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Re: One more question???? - J Nisonger/CA
5/19/2006 10:14:27 PM (3867 views)

National Funding Services Inc - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: National Funding Services Inc - Anne Gilbert/VT
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Re: National Funding Services Inc - J Nisonger/CA
5/8/2006 3:01:23 PM (4114 views)

Another One Bites The Dust - Franklin Land Title - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Another One Bites The Dust - Franklin Land Title - Angelica Schneider/IN
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