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Michigan Land Title agency - Ellen Maher/MI
4/10/2006 3:28:33 PM (2016 views)

SPOTLIGHT: Bill Garrett - Robert Franco/OH
4/10/2006 3:19:32 PM (1937 views)

Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources-Part 2 - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
4/10/2006 12:02:18 PM (1944 views)

A Thank You - Wanda Steudel/OH
4/7/2006 4:07:23 PM (2373 views)
Re: A Thank You - Robert Franco/OH
4/7/2006 5:56:29 PM (2847 views)

reimbursement for mileage/gas - Deborah Manion/VA
4/7/2006 3:56:18 PM (2365 views)
Re: reimbursement for mileage/gas - Robert Franco/OH
4/7/2006 5:52:21 PM (2956 views)
Re: reimbursement for mileage/gas - Shannon Blatt/VA
4/7/2006 8:25:27 PM (3031 views)
Re: reimbursement for mileage/gas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/8/2006 10:04:48 AM (2935 views)


Real Title Services


HUD-1's and fees - Robert Breakell/CT
4/3/2006 6:22:58 PM (2546 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - Shannon Blatt/VA
4/3/2006 9:10:13 PM (2943 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
4/4/2006 8:07:44 AM (2918 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - George Booth/OH
4/4/2006 1:09:22 PM (3018 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/5/2006 10:27:32 AM (2975 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - George Booth/OH
4/5/2006 11:31:29 AM (2965 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - George Booth/OH
4/5/2006 11:32:53 AM (2910 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - Robert Breakell/CT
4/5/2006 5:35:23 PM (2886 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
4/5/2006 7:30:51 PM (2917 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/6/2006 12:50:27 PM (2878 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - George Booth/OH
4/7/2006 11:08:37 PM (2953 views)
Re: HUD-1's and fees - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/8/2006 9:58:17 AM (2923 views)

LLC's...Operating Agreements - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/3/2006 8:56:03 AM (2419 views)
Re: LLC's...Operating Agreements - Robert Breakell/CT
4/3/2006 1:13:49 PM (2990 views)
Re: LLC's...Operating Agreements - Vikki Moffitt/GA
4/5/2006 8:59:30 AM (3003 views)
Re: LLC's...Operating Agreements - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/6/2006 10:53:19 AM (2853 views)
Re: LLC's...Operating Agreements - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/5/2006 10:28:34 AM (2877 views)
Re: LLC's...Operating Agreements - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/5/2006 10:39:13 AM (2887 views)

Anyone familiar with a company named Source Title Solutions, Inc. ? - Joseph Weaver/VA
4/1/2006 6:47:51 PM (2133 views)

Practicing Law - Ricky Farrow/FL
3/29/2006 9:21:10 PM (2441 views)
Re: Practicing Law - Anne Gilbert/VT
4/6/2006 7:09:18 AM (3254 views)
CT & VT Recording Alike - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
4/6/2006 8:53:11 AM (3052 views)
Re: Practicing Law - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
4/6/2006 8:59:15 AM (2989 views)
Re: Practicing Law - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/6/2006 1:06:21 PM (2960 views)
Re: Practicing Law - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
4/6/2006 4:26:33 PM (3055 views)
Re: Practicing Law - Anne Gilbert/VT
4/6/2006 4:45:31 PM (3101 views)
Re: Practicing Law - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/6/2006 4:46:05 PM (3031 views)
Re: Practicing Law - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
4/6/2006 10:33:51 PM (3018 views)
Re: Practicing Law - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/7/2006 5:24:26 AM (2961 views)
Re: Practicing Law - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/7/2006 11:07:47 AM (2957 views)

Once you are licensed then whats next? - Christine Sheeler/PA
3/29/2006 9:21:37 AM (2493 views)
Re: Once you are licensed then whats next? - George Booth/OH
3/29/2006 10:26:24 AM (2988 views)
Re: Once you are licensed then whats next? - Christine Sheeler/PA
3/29/2006 10:34:56 AM (3080 views)
Re: Once you are licensed then whats next? - George Booth/OH
3/29/2006 9:25:03 PM (2980 views)
Re: Once you are licensed then whats next? - Christine Sheeler/PA
3/30/2006 11:10:40 AM (2963 views)

Business 101 - Robert Franco/OH
3/28/2006 1:01:49 PM (2033 views)

Federal Tax Lien question - Kim Cowles/WI
3/28/2006 9:16:59 AM (2532 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - George Booth/OH
3/28/2006 9:48:04 AM (3253 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Ricky Farrow/FL
3/28/2006 3:13:52 PM (3110 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Robert Franco/OH
3/28/2006 4:12:57 PM (3247 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Jay Duncan/MO
3/28/2006 10:35:50 PM (3127 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Scott Perry/PA
3/28/2006 11:32:53 PM (3095 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Helene/GA
3/29/2006 1:01:49 AM (3070 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/29/2006 8:13:08 AM (3119 views)

It is the abstractor's job to report which liens, mortgages, etc. encumber the title to a property only. When I was doing title searches I normally dealt with the issue of tax liens, mechanic's liens and other time barred encumbrances as follows:
 
     1.   If there was a release specifically addressing the lien, the lien was not listed in the abstract as an encumbrance. 

     2.   If the lien was not released or not expired it was listed as an encumbrance. 

     3.   If the lien was not released, but there was some question as to whether the lien was expired or renewed, the lien was listed as a potential encumbrance to the extent that it was not expired or otherwise released, and a notation was made in the abstract that further inquiry should be made as to the current status of the lien.

It is not the abstractor's  function to make judgment calls in questionable situations. Remember, you are only getting paid $50.00 or less for a current owner search, possibly driving 25-30 miles to a town hall at your expense to perform the search , or possibly you are one of the abstractors being asked to reduce your price and include the cost of the copies in return for nothing from the client. Why should the abstractor incur the liability of making this determination? Scott is right. Someone else is being paid the big bucks to make this determination. Let him know the potential encumbrance is there, and let him earn his fee.

Before I issue a title insurance policy, I want to know the current status of potential problems rather than run the risk of insuring over a problem. When I am confronted with the problem of a possibly time barred lien, I list it as an exception to coverage until the property owner produces a copy of a duly recorded release.

When you can have the absolute release of the lien why rely on a time limitation which may or may not mave been renewed, the renewal or release may have been recorded out of the chain of title, or which may have been tolled (extended) for some reason. Even if it has not properly been tolled, arguments can be made for it which require a ruling of the court, and you have to go to the trouble and expense to defend. It is a drop in the bucket to the taxing authority if they are ruled wrong. I know of someone locally that got into a dispute with the IRS. He appealed all the way through the courts, and finally was driven out of business only to have the IRS finally concede that he was right.

I am very pleased when an  abstractor has brought a potential problem to my attention. It gives me the peace of mind of insisting on a release of the lien.

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Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Kim Cowles/WI
3/29/2006 8:49:39 AM (3025 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Brad McCollom/IN
3/29/2006 6:11:07 AM (5115 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Danielle Nelson/WI
3/29/2006 2:31:31 PM (3061 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
3/30/2006 9:10:26 AM (3003 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Jeanne Johnson/FL
4/3/2006 2:27:09 PM (3067 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Kristi Lee/NE
4/10/2006 11:54:33 AM (2940 views)

Privacy issues:selling America - Robert Breakell/CT
3/24/2006 5:51:05 PM (3736 views)
Re: Privacy issues:selling America - George Booth/OH
3/25/2006 9:15:51 AM (2902 views)
Re: Privacy issues:selling America - Robert Breakell/CT
3/25/2006 2:20:10 PM (2910 views)
Re: Privacy issues:selling America - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/25/2006 5:30:43 PM (2950 views)
Re: Privacy issues:selling America - Scott Perry/PA
3/25/2006 8:26:41 PM (2907 views)
Re: Privacy issues:selling America - Scott Perry/PA
3/25/2006 8:33:41 PM (2872 views)

Colorado - Michael/KS
3/23/2006 10:07:13 PM (3145 views)
Re: Colorado - Kurt deVries/FL
3/24/2006 2:45:40 PM (3064 views)
Re: Colorado - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/30/2006 1:00:51 PM (3059 views)

Lindsays Abstract - Norean Cashwell/GA
3/23/2006 5:54:13 PM (2531 views)
Re: Lindsays Abstract - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/30/2006 1:27:39 PM (3087 views)
Re: Lindsays Abstract - Vikki Moffitt/GA
3/31/2006 1:07:53 AM (3042 views)
Re: Lindsays Abstract - Norean Cashwell/GA
4/3/2006 6:25:51 AM (2910 views)
Re: Lindsays Abstract - Kathy Davis/GA
6/7/2006 6:47:17 PM (2969 views)


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