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ATIM Conference - George Booth/OH
3/22/2006 11:26:35 PM (2544 views)
Re: ATIM Conference - David Bloys/TX
3/23/2006 7:35:42 AM (3117 views)
Re: ATIM Conference - George Booth/OH
3/23/2006 9:05:30 AM (3096 views)

David,

Those are great questions! Yes they can use OCR (Optical Character Recognition) on handwriting. Even the wicked cursive from the late 1800's, (so they say) Did I see it with my own eyes? I'm sorry to say no I did not. What we as citizens consider private, personally identifiable information differs greatly from what the states are saying also. In Florida for instance they require by Jan. 1, 2007 ALL public records in custody by the recorder's office to redact the following.

RECORDS–COURTS–CLERKS OF COURT–redaction of social security number, bank account, debit, charge, or credit card number 
s. 119.07(3)(ff), Fla. Stat.; Ch. 02-391, Laws of Florida.

This brings up an even better arguement pose by one of the floor members at this conference. Forgive my interpretation of the conversation please...

The IRS will no longer file liens with the 9 digit account number which we all know is the SSN. They will instead only use the last four numbers.
The floor member said something like this. Anyone who knows anything about SSNs knows the first five digits are personally identifiable numbers and only the last four are random. "A 14 year old with enough time on their hands can write a simple number generator and figure out the remaining numbers base on location the document was found and approximate age of the person." The fact is no amount of redaction is going to help a person who has been targeted for fraud.

The scarey thing is I can buy leads from a Credit Bureau that shows for instance anyone that applied for a mortgage in the last three days with Countrywide home loans. That lead will give me the name, address and phone number of the person. A good hacker needs little more than this to gain that person's identity.

As far as your other questions David, I can't attest to them. But I will say there are some seriously powerful data mining software programs out there building title plants and automatically indexing them with very little human intervention. First American's CEO was there and said their title plant operations overseas are enjoying a very successful accuracy rate when checked by an abstractor.
Again, please let me clarify my position. I cannot possibly fathom the idea of writing a policy based on some overseas title plant from a person that barely speaks english.  It's impossible to know the little nuances of every area, that's what abstractors are for. but, they seem perfectly happy to cough up a committment in fifteen minutes because that's what the lenders demand.

In my humble opinion, the lenders and realtors need a hard slap on the face to make them wake up and get educated on what title insurance is and how important the information is to be correct. Our biggest problem in this industry is education. People just don't know what title insurance is how important to the transaction it is. Furthermore, cut rate abstractors have sacrificed their own credibility by lowering fees. They don't place enough value on their own product or knowledge. If you have been an abstractor for over 20 years then companies should pay you premium dollars for your knowledge, instead people cut their fees, just to stay in business. There needs to be a unified voice and a line drawn. Give it a  little while after those marvelous computers miss a lien and an underwriter gets sued again, maybe they will then see the value of human eyes and mind.

George


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Re: ATIM Conference - Robert Franco/OH
3/23/2006 9:59:40 AM (3304 views)

Anyone with enviornmental search experience? - Michael Toebe/KS
3/22/2006 3:03:56 PM (2453 views)
Re: Anyone with enviornmental search experience? - Wanda Steudel/OH
3/22/2006 4:43:13 PM (3147 views)
Re: Anyone with enviornmental search experience? - Kurt deVries/FL
3/23/2006 12:04:53 PM (3126 views)
Re: Anyone with enviornmental search experience? - Helene/GA
3/27/2006 11:06:17 PM (2994 views)
Re: Anyone with enviornmental search experience? - Michael Toebe/KS
3/27/2006 11:14:03 PM (3031 views)

Applause for an abstracter - Sophia Varga/NY
3/22/2006 11:52:43 AM (2559 views)
Re: Applause for an abstracter - George Booth/OH
3/23/2006 11:51:34 AM (2884 views)
Re: Applause for an abstracter - Kurt deVries/FL
3/23/2006 12:03:21 PM (2893 views)

Interesting article...market changes - Michael Toebe/KS
3/22/2006 1:39:58 AM (2490 views)
Re: Interesting article...market changes - Scott Perry/PA
3/22/2006 7:51:17 AM (3114 views)
Re: Interesting article...market changes - Robert Breakell/CT
3/22/2006 8:43:01 AM (5129 views)
Re: Interesting article...market changes - Scott Perry/PA
3/22/2006 9:23:13 AM (3066 views)
Re: Interesting article...market changes - Robert Breakell/CT
3/22/2006 6:32:06 PM (3090 views)
Re: Interesting article...market changes - J Nisonger/CA
3/22/2006 12:40:49 PM (3086 views)
Re: Interesting article...market changes - Robert Breakell/CT
3/22/2006 6:28:58 PM (3058 views)
lol...now why would someone - Michael Toebe/KS
3/22/2006 3:02:06 PM (3066 views)

ABA Questions - Michael Solt/PA
3/21/2006 3:55:57 PM (2388 views)
Re: ABA Questions - George Booth/OH
3/23/2006 9:18:43 AM (3003 views)
Re: ABA Questions - Robert Franco/OH
3/23/2006 10:10:38 AM (2890 views)
Re: ABA Questions - George Booth/OH
3/23/2006 10:23:05 AM (3125 views)
Re: ABA Questions - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/23/2006 10:54:51 AM (3078 views)
Re: ABA Questions - George Booth/OH
3/23/2006 11:46:57 AM (2978 views)
Re: ABA Questions - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/23/2006 12:58:06 PM (3133 views)
Re: ABA Questions - Robert Breakell/CT
3/23/2006 5:48:26 PM (3080 views)
Re: ABA Questions - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/23/2006 7:55:25 PM (3116 views)
Re: ABA Questions - Robert Breakell/CT
3/23/2006 8:21:10 PM (3149 views)
Steve! - Robert Breakell/CT
3/23/2006 8:30:05 PM (3132 views)
Re: Steve! - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/23/2006 10:45:19 PM (3143 views)


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Millennium Abstract, LLC - Joanie Hahr/VT
3/21/2006 3:26:23 PM (3881 views)
Re: Millennium Abstract, LLC - Michael Solt/PA
3/21/2006 3:54:19 PM (3214 views)
Re: Millennium Abstract, LLC - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/30/2006 1:28:36 PM (3237 views)
Re: Millennium Abstract, LLC - Sandra Morton/KS
4/3/2006 9:11:55 AM (2996 views)

ATIM Conference - George Booth/OH
3/18/2006 7:47:21 PM (2528 views)
Re: ATIM Conference - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
3/19/2006 2:46:32 AM (3044 views)
Re: ATIM Conference - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/30/2006 1:30:03 PM (2987 views)
Re: ATIM Conference - George Booth/OH
4/2/2006 9:33:21 AM (2980 views)

Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/17/2006 12:21:33 PM (3052 views)
Re: Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/17/2006 1:56:50 PM (3427 views)
Re: Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/21/2006 2:07:33 PM (3154 views)
Re: Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - Langdon Knight/MO
3/17/2006 6:45:23 PM (3331 views)
Re: Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/21/2006 2:20:40 PM (3283 views)
Re: Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - Langdon Knight/MO
3/21/2006 5:58:23 PM (3286 views)
Re: Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/30/2006 12:30:17 PM (3188 views)
Re: Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/30/2006 12:31:37 PM (3083 views)
Re: Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/30/2006 12:31:41 PM (3112 views)
Re: Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
3/17/2006 8:13:23 PM (3310 views)
Re: Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/21/2006 2:26:51 PM (3098 views)

We Are Moving!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
3/16/2006 6:48:19 PM (2528 views)
Re: We Are Moving!!! - Robert Breakell/CT
3/16/2006 6:55:22 PM (3071 views)
Re: We Are Moving!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
3/16/2006 7:24:29 PM (3016 views)
Re: We Are Moving!!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/17/2006 1:30:52 PM (2930 views)
Re: We Are Moving!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
3/20/2006 9:25:54 AM (3009 views)
Re: We Are Moving!!! - Patrick Scott/IL
3/20/2006 10:24:31 AM (3008 views)
Re: We Are Moving!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
3/20/2006 11:23:58 AM (2973 views)
Re: We Are Moving!!! - Scott Perry/PA
3/20/2006 6:41:46 PM (2953 views)
Re: We Are Moving!!! - Nikky/FL
3/20/2006 7:03:36 PM (3004 views)
Re: We Are Moving!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
3/20/2006 10:47:43 PM (2935 views)
Re: We Are Moving!!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/27/2006 9:08:35 AM (2986 views)

OT - March Madness - Danielle Nelson/WI
3/16/2006 3:18:35 PM (2437 views)
short stay, Danielle - Michael Toebe/KS
3/19/2006 3:42:15 AM (2994 views)
Re: short stay, Danielle - Danielle Nelson/WI
3/21/2006 2:34:18 PM (2869 views)
Re: short stay, Danielle - Scott Perry/PA
3/21/2006 8:24:17 PM (2934 views)
Re: short stay, Danielle - Danielle Nelson/WI
3/22/2006 3:56:42 PM (3050 views)
Re: short stay, Danielle - Scott Perry/PA
3/22/2006 5:06:42 PM (2999 views)

Corporate Story! - Kurt deVries/FL
3/15/2006 12:20:57 PM (2400 views)
Re: Corporate Story! - James "Lin" Toney/MS
3/16/2006 6:42:50 PM (2915 views)
Re: Corporate Story! - Robert Breakell/CT
3/16/2006 6:52:22 PM (2974 views)
Re: Corporate Story! - J Nisonger/CA
3/18/2006 5:24:48 PM (3063 views)
Re: Corporate Story! - Robert Breakell/CT
3/19/2006 9:09:17 AM (2879 views)
Re: Corporate Story! - Scott Perry/PA
3/19/2006 1:14:55 PM (2959 views)
Re: Corporate Story! - J Nisonger/CA
3/23/2006 1:35:05 PM (2928 views)
Re: Corporate Story! - Michael Toebe/KS
3/19/2006 3:37:36 AM (2967 views)

Informal Poll - Danielle Nelson/WI
3/15/2006 10:10:36 AM (2394 views)
Re: Informal Poll - Robert Franco/OH
3/15/2006 10:18:56 AM (3185 views)
Re: Informal Poll - Scott Perry/PA
3/15/2006 10:49:28 AM (5499 views)
Re: Informal Poll - David Bloys/TX
3/15/2006 12:16:26 PM (3086 views)
Re: Informal Poll - Kurt deVries/FL
3/15/2006 12:23:29 PM (3086 views)
Re: Informal Poll - Sandra Morton/KS
3/19/2006 1:15:34 PM (3083 views)
Re: Informal Poll - Kim Cowles/WI
3/15/2006 6:15:22 PM (3057 views)
Re: Informal Poll - Sandra Morton/KS
3/19/2006 1:13:36 PM (2951 views)

NASCOPGH (Capital Title Group) - Robert Breakell/CT
3/14/2006 1:52:27 PM (2519 views)
Re: NASCOPGH (Capital Title Group) - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/14/2006 2:32:59 PM (3108 views)
Re: NASCOPGH (Capital Title Group) - Scott Perry/PA
3/14/2006 5:26:02 PM (3092 views)
Re: NASCOPGH (Capital Title Group) - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/15/2006 8:32:16 AM (3050 views)
Re: NASCOPGH (Capital Title Group) - Scott Perry/PA
3/15/2006 10:59:17 AM (3041 views)

Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - David Bloys/TX
3/13/2006 10:11:15 PM (3689 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/14/2006 9:02:27 AM (3142 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - Kurt deVries/FL
3/14/2006 10:48:11 AM (3083 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/14/2006 11:14:24 AM (5041 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - David Bloys/TX
3/14/2006 1:11:09 PM (5066 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - David Bloys/TX
3/14/2006 11:06:33 AM (3019 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/14/2006 11:30:45 AM (3039 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - David Bloys/TX
3/14/2006 12:41:46 PM (5137 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - Kurt deVries/FL
3/14/2006 2:22:16 PM (3114 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - David Bloys/TX
3/14/2006 2:51:09 PM (3042 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - Scott Perry/PA
3/14/2006 5:08:23 PM (2825 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - David Bloys/TX
3/14/2006 7:33:22 PM (4955 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - Scott Perry/PA
3/14/2006 9:28:30 PM (2883 views)

Hey, Jaybird!! - Scott Perry/PA
3/13/2006 8:02:47 AM (2417 views)
Re: Hey, Jaybird!! - Jay Duncan/MO
3/13/2006 8:26:34 AM (2837 views)


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