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Code of Ethics - Jay Duncan/MO
10/21/2005 10:35:01 AM (4515 views)
Re: Code of Ethics - Smitty Strickland/SC
10/21/2005 6:07:31 PM (6087 views)
Re: Code of Ethics - Jay Duncan/MO
10/21/2005 6:23:54 PM (6075 views)
Re: Code of Ethics - Scott Perry/PA
10/21/2005 7:14:44 PM (5997 views)
Re: Code of Ethics - Douglas Gallant/OH
10/21/2005 9:38:21 PM (5875 views)
Re: Code of Ethics - Smitty Strickland/SC
10/22/2005 8:06:58 AM (6174 views)
Re: Code of Ethics - Scott Perry/PA
10/22/2005 10:35:54 AM (6154 views)
Re: Code of Ethics - Jay Duncan/MO
10/22/2005 11:57:06 AM (6090 views)
Re: Code of Ethics - Scott Perry/PA
10/22/2005 12:01:35 PM (6044 views)

research time? - GORDON TINSLEY/CA
10/20/2005 4:54:52 AM (3568 views)
Re: research time? - Scott Perry/PA
10/20/2005 8:07:53 AM (6865 views)
Re: research time? - GORDON TINSLEY/CA
10/20/2005 12:44:12 PM (6787 views)
Re: research time? - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 11:38:23 AM (8230 views)
Re: research time? - GORDON TINSLEY/CA
10/20/2005 1:04:37 PM (6843 views)
Re: research time? - Phyllis Agan/GA
10/28/2005 8:30:14 AM (6491 views)
Re: research time? - David Jenkins/PA
10/20/2005 12:13:25 PM (6679 views)
Re: research time? - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 12:24:57 PM (6739 views)
Re: research time? - David Jenkins/PA
10/20/2005 1:08:11 PM (6734 views)
Re: research time? - Lisa Scherer/NJ
10/24/2005 11:04:35 PM (6460 views)

QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/19/2005 9:55:01 PM (3618 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - James "Lin" Toney/MS
10/19/2005 11:29:36 PM (6388 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 12:24:37 AM (6375 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - NPC/GA
10/20/2005 7:03:23 AM (6455 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Rachel Malone/PA
10/20/2005 7:48:08 AM (6465 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kim Cowles/WI
10/20/2005 8:29:16 AM (6415 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Deborah Manion/VA
10/20/2005 9:37:31 AM (6426 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Wanda Steudel/OH
10/20/2005 9:38:52 AM (6094 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Rebecca Barney/FL
10/20/2005 10:21:32 AM (6226 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Patrick Scott/IL
10/20/2005 10:37:13 AM (6334 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - John OConnor/IL
10/20/2005 10:43:36 AM (6305 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kurt deVries/FL
10/20/2005 10:46:43 AM (6334 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Michaela Urban/OH
10/20/2005 10:55:00 AM (6364 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kurt deVries/FL
10/20/2005 1:08:40 PM (6435 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Rebecca Barney/FL
10/20/2005 1:26:50 PM (6106 views)
THANKS, EVERYONE! - Scott Perry/PA
10/20/2005 5:22:43 PM (6249 views)
Re: THANKS, EVERYONE! - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 5:51:06 PM (6244 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Wendi See/SC
10/20/2005 10:26:17 PM (6189 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Tammy Knight/MO
10/20/2005 11:37:10 PM (6021 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/21/2005 7:20:16 AM (5874 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Jay Duncan/MO
10/21/2005 10:29:25 AM (7702 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/21/2005 3:15:39 PM (6109 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Robert Franco/OH
10/21/2005 1:14:46 PM (5841 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/23/2005 12:02:03 AM (6082 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/23/2005 6:30:34 AM (5971 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Anne Gilbert/VT
10/23/2005 1:55:15 PM (6080 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/24/2005 6:42:19 AM (5868 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Donna Grady/NC
10/23/2005 9:31:18 PM (5920 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Phyllis Agan/GA
10/28/2005 8:45:42 AM (5927 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Jacqueline Quaresimo/PA
10/29/2005 3:55:31 PM (5480 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - ANDREW MOLLER/CT
10/23/2005 7:43:10 PM (5989 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Bill Jones/NJ
10/24/2005 7:06:57 PM (5936 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Anne Gilbert/VT
10/24/2005 8:33:51 PM (5824 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/24/2005 9:32:09 PM (5634 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Lisa Scherer/NJ
10/24/2005 11:23:52 PM (5970 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/25/2005 6:11:22 PM (5918 views)

This has been bugging me . . . - Michaela Urban/OH
10/18/2005 9:57:44 AM (3629 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Robert Franco/OH
10/18/2005 10:44:27 AM (6238 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - John OConnor/IL
10/18/2005 12:21:30 PM (6233 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/18/2005 7:02:55 PM (7825 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2005 7:48:12 PM (6095 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/18/2005 10:06:16 PM (6065 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2005 11:16:17 PM (6115 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/19/2005 8:15:48 AM (6218 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Patrick Scott/IL
10/19/2005 12:51:25 PM (7671 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/20/2005 10:59:30 AM (6032 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Patrick Scott/IL
10/20/2005 12:18:39 PM (6105 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/20/2005 2:54:56 PM (5834 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Patrick Scott/IL
10/20/2005 7:15:04 PM (5881 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 12:30:26 PM (6260 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2005 5:34:20 PM (6069 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Kurt deVries/FL
10/19/2005 12:20:15 PM (6075 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Michaela Urban/OH
10/20/2005 10:48:49 AM (6082 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/20/2005 11:13:59 AM (6009 views)
Re: Oh, One More Thing, David... - Patrick Scott/IL
10/24/2005 10:53:34 PM (5869 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - george Hubka/MI
10/27/2005 8:43:35 PM (5467 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Jeanne Mendes/CA
10/27/2005 1:50:55 AM (5790 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/28/2005 8:53:09 AM (5818 views)

New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/17/2005 4:50:18 PM (3552 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/17/2005 5:20:20 PM (5873 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Scott Perry/PA
10/17/2005 6:03:20 PM (5556 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Iris Buchman/FL
10/17/2005 6:03:31 PM (5818 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Rachel Malone/PA
10/18/2005 8:08:51 AM (6072 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2005 5:05:08 PM (5957 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Rachel Malone/PA
10/19/2005 7:47:53 AM (5821 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Scott Perry/PA
10/19/2005 8:01:03 AM (5853 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Rachel Malone/PA
10/19/2005 8:05:39 AM (5966 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/19/2005 11:55:28 AM (5904 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/19/2005 3:10:49 PM (5863 views)


Real Title Services


LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Becky Kale/IL
10/17/2005 2:22:31 PM (3525 views)
Re: LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Iris Buchman/FL
10/17/2005 6:02:25 PM (5802 views)
Re: LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Jason Sheppard/PA
10/30/2005 2:53:02 AM (5393 views)
Re: LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Becky Kale/IL
11/8/2005 3:38:02 PM (5327 views)
Re: LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Jason Sheppard/PA
11/21/2005 11:17:57 AM (5254 views)

Okay, another question. - Tammy Knight/MO
10/16/2005 10:18:06 PM (3349 views)
Re: Okay, another question. - Scott Perry/PA
10/16/2005 10:40:01 PM (5683 views)
Re: Okay, another question. - Kim Cowles/FL
10/17/2005 11:27:03 AM (5876 views)
Re: Okay, another question. - Bo Hope/AR
10/17/2005 6:25:38 PM (5958 views)
Re: Okay, another question. - Tammy Knight/MO
10/19/2005 3:13:32 PM (5866 views)

Fed up! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
10/15/2005 12:36:11 PM (3440 views)
Re: Fed up! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/15/2005 5:48:16 PM (5514 views)
Re: Fed up! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/16/2005 4:30:53 PM (5508 views)
Re: Fed up! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/16/2005 4:54:24 PM (5522 views)
Re: Fed up! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/17/2005 12:16:19 PM (5861 views)
Re: Fed up! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/17/2005 3:56:17 PM (5798 views)

indexing - Douglas Gallant/OH
10/15/2005 12:31:46 PM (3213 views)
Re: indexing - Scott Perry/PA
10/15/2005 3:07:59 PM (5497 views)
Re: indexing - monica froese/ME
10/15/2005 6:40:24 PM (5354 views)
Re: indexing - Robert Franco/OH
10/15/2005 8:05:07 PM (5326 views)
Re: indexing - monica froese/ME
10/15/2005 11:18:03 PM (5290 views)
STUCK ON "STUPID" - Scott Perry/PA
10/16/2005 1:06:12 PM (5349 views)
Re: indexing - Larry Crooks/OH
10/17/2005 3:34:21 PM (5717 views)

Questions about VMC's - Donna Grady/NC
10/14/2005 10:32:19 PM (2682 views)

Anyone heard of this company.... - Loretta Reed/MD
10/14/2005 1:16:42 PM (3406 views)
Re: Anyone heard of this company.... - Kurt deVries/FL
10/19/2005 12:12:30 PM (5934 views)

A word about prices... - Robert Franco/OH
10/13/2005 5:40:44 PM (3733 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Kurt deVries/FL
10/14/2005 9:39:16 AM (5493 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Robert Breakell/CT
10/14/2005 9:50:44 AM (5557 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Robert Franco/OH
10/14/2005 12:03:18 PM (5556 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Scott Perry/PA
10/14/2005 5:24:10 PM (5479 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Bo Hope/AR
10/16/2005 1:55:51 AM (5453 views)

Here's my rant - Loretta Reed/MD
10/13/2005 11:05:00 AM (3116 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Iris Buchman/FL
10/13/2005 4:50:59 PM (5458 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Kurt deVries/FL
10/14/2005 9:36:24 AM (5466 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Jay Duncan/MO
10/14/2005 1:44:49 PM (5463 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Matt Papsch/MD
10/13/2005 5:35:02 PM (5401 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Loretta Reed/MD
10/14/2005 11:47:19 AM (5603 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Robert Franco/OH
10/14/2005 12:12:08 PM (5424 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Wendi See/SC
10/15/2005 10:24:17 PM (5381 views)

Refaxing - Danielle Nelson/WI
10/12/2005 2:14:31 PM (3130 views)
Re: Refaxing - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/12/2005 3:00:22 PM (5285 views)
Re: Refaxing - Robert Franco/OH
10/12/2005 3:28:29 PM (8857 views)
Re: Refaxing - Larry Crooks/OH
10/13/2005 8:45:13 AM (5327 views)
Re: Refaxing - Danielle Nelson/WI
10/13/2005 11:38:05 AM (6004 views)
Re: Refaxing - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/14/2005 9:55:23 AM (5329 views)
Re: Refaxing - Kelly Chamblee/OH
10/13/2005 1:37:01 PM (5326 views)
Re: Refaxing - Robert Franco/OH
10/13/2005 2:38:26 PM (5373 views)
Re: Refaxing - Susan Matson/MN
10/17/2005 9:31:57 AM (5632 views)

Rant! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/12/2005 12:49:24 AM (3051 views)
Re: Rant! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/12/2005 2:02:22 PM (5148 views)
Re: Rant! - Robert Franco/OH
10/12/2005 3:11:23 PM (5181 views)

Excellent topic for discussion...  It is unfortunate that abstractors do not have an efficient course of action when clients fail to make payments.   There are several options, but they all have some level of difficulty or risk associated with them.

LEGAL ACTION - As Kevin Ahern has pointed out, the law provides for remedies in such cases.  However, the legal fees associated often make the use of the court system cost prohibitive.  Even if you win, you are still in a position of having to expend further efforts collecting on a judgment.

COLLECTION AGENCIES - This often is unsatisfying because even if the collection agency is successful, they are going to take a large portion of the amount collected.  Sometimes, collection agencies offer services with up-front fees that could be wasted if payment is not obtained.

RANSOM - Some abstractors have held work hostage for payment of delinquent accounts.  This can be risky.  In the case where the abstractor holds a filing, if an intervening lien is filed while the abstractor is holding the documents I would imagine that there would be some liability involved.  This also affects the borrower, or homeowner, and not just the client.  I never recommend holding filings - either file them or return them to the client immediately.  Holding new search orders is not as risky in this regard, as long as you let the client know that you are not completing the order until their account is paid, however, they are likely to cancel the order and place it elsewhere; which is ineffective in trying to collect a delinquent account.

PUBLIC POSTING OF NON-PAYMENT - This is what has been referred to in the previous post by Tammy.  It costs the abstractor nothing, and could hurt the non-paying client by making it difficult for them to find other abstractors willing to take the same risks.  It seems to have been effective, as we have seen on this forum.  However, one of these days it could spawn a lawsuit by the client for libel.  Source of Title has been threatened with lawsuits in the past for not removing these posts and I cringe every time I see one.  However, this is a public forum and Source of Title disclaims any liability for the content of the posts.  The forums are not censored and the person posting the information accepts full liability for the content.  Still, I do not encourage this type of posting. 

BLACK-LISTING - Creating lists of "dead-beat" clients has been suggested many times on this forum.  It would serve the purpose of letting other clients know what clients have a reputation of not paying their abstractors, however, there is no good way to verify the information.  We have all had clients that we have had good experiences with that others complain about, and vice versa.  Even more so than a single posting on the forum, this type of behavior could result in a lawsuit. I certainly would not be willing to participate in such a list.

Unfortunately, there is no good way to collect from a client that is just not willing to step-up and pay for the work they order.  Due to the nature of the business, abstractors are in a very weak bargaining position.  There are always going to be other abstractors willing to take on new business and accept the risk of not being paid.

Cut clients off early, before they owe too much.  Don't do any more work for them and consider it a learning experience.  If it is truly a large balance, it may be worth pursuing legal action.

I wish I had better advice... if anyone else does, please share it.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: Rant! - Scott Perry/PA
10/12/2005 6:03:33 PM (5049 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Rant! - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR
10/12/2005 8:21:41 PM (5066 views)
Re: Rant! - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Rant! - Robert Franco/OH
10/13/2005 12:26:35 AM (5086 views)
Re: Rant! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/13/2005 1:22:50 AM (5047 views)
Re: Rant! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/14/2005 10:02:18 AM (5080 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/14/2005 12:29:44 PM (4975 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/14/2005 12:48:29 PM (4994 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/13/2005 4:56:56 AM (4928 views)
Re: Rant! - Iris Buchman/FL
10/13/2005 4:44:01 PM (5006 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/14/2005 8:06:47 AM (5009 views)
Re: Rant! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/16/2005 10:08:48 PM (5039 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/17/2005 8:21:44 AM (5411 views)


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