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Hey Kurt! - J Nisonger/CA
10/24/2005 12:06:20 AM (3386 views)
Re: Hey Kurt! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/24/2005 9:37:58 AM (6340 views)
Re: Hey Kurt! - J Nisonger/CA
10/25/2005 10:43:14 PM (6243 views)
Re: Hey Kurt! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/26/2005 9:31:29 AM (6303 views)

Whine, whine, whine... - Jay Duncan/MO
10/23/2005 10:43:57 PM (4574 views)
Re: Whine, whine, whine... - Jay Duncan/MO
10/23/2005 10:48:42 PM (6124 views)
Re: Whine, whine, whine... - Langdon Knight/MO
10/24/2005 1:26:33 AM (6036 views)
Re: Whine, whine, whine... - Deborah Manion/VA
10/24/2005 9:20:18 AM (6440 views)
Re: Whine, whine, whine... - Patrick Scott/IL
10/24/2005 11:23:40 AM (6402 views)
Re: Whine, whine, whine... - Scott Perry/PA
10/24/2005 9:33:41 PM (6415 views)
Re: Whine, whine, whine... - Patrick Scott/IL
10/24/2005 10:45:40 PM (6372 views)

Here we go again!! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/21/2005 3:38:08 PM (3513 views)
Re: Here we go again!! - Scott Perry/PA
10/21/2005 4:15:36 PM (6257 views)
Re: Here we go again!! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/21/2005 4:23:57 PM (6338 views)
Re: Here we go again!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/21/2005 4:54:04 PM (6575 views)
Re: Here we go again!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/23/2005 3:54:46 PM (6578 views)

Code of Ethics - Jay Duncan/MO
10/21/2005 10:35:01 AM (4707 views)
Re: Code of Ethics - Smitty Strickland/SC
10/21/2005 6:07:31 PM (6563 views)
Re: Code of Ethics - Jay Duncan/MO
10/21/2005 6:23:54 PM (6564 views)
Re: Code of Ethics - Scott Perry/PA
10/21/2005 7:14:44 PM (6494 views)
Re: Code of Ethics - Douglas Gallant/OH
10/21/2005 9:38:21 PM (6384 views)
Re: Code of Ethics - Smitty Strickland/SC
10/22/2005 8:06:58 AM (6662 views)
Re: Code of Ethics - Scott Perry/PA
10/22/2005 10:35:54 AM (6630 views)
Re: Code of Ethics - Jay Duncan/MO
10/22/2005 11:57:06 AM (6587 views)
Re: Code of Ethics - Scott Perry/PA
10/22/2005 12:01:35 PM (6538 views)

research time? - GORDON TINSLEY/CA
10/20/2005 4:54:52 AM (3735 views)
Re: research time? - Scott Perry/PA
10/20/2005 8:07:53 AM (7321 views)
Re: research time? - GORDON TINSLEY/CA
10/20/2005 12:44:12 PM (7305 views)
Re: research time? - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 11:38:23 AM (8766 views)
Re: research time? - GORDON TINSLEY/CA
10/20/2005 1:04:37 PM (7364 views)
Re: research time? - Phyllis Agan/GA
10/28/2005 8:30:14 AM (7018 views)
Re: research time? - David Jenkins/PA
10/20/2005 12:13:25 PM (7133 views)
Re: research time? - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 12:24:57 PM (7241 views)
Re: research time? - David Jenkins/PA
10/20/2005 1:08:11 PM (7205 views)
Re: research time? - Lisa Scherer/NJ
10/24/2005 11:04:35 PM (6989 views)




QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/19/2005 9:55:01 PM (3777 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - James "Lin" Toney/MS
10/19/2005 11:29:36 PM (6849 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 12:24:37 AM (6837 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - NPC/GA
10/20/2005 7:03:23 AM (6920 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Rachel Malone/PA
10/20/2005 7:48:08 AM (6930 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kim Cowles/WI
10/20/2005 8:29:16 AM (6876 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Deborah Manion/VA
10/20/2005 9:37:31 AM (6906 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Wanda Steudel/OH
10/20/2005 9:38:52 AM (6602 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Rebecca Barney/FL
10/20/2005 10:21:32 AM (6693 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Patrick Scott/IL
10/20/2005 10:37:13 AM (6768 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - John OConnor/IL
10/20/2005 10:43:36 AM (6736 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kurt deVries/FL
10/20/2005 10:46:43 AM (6782 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Michaela Urban/OH
10/20/2005 10:55:00 AM (6829 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kurt deVries/FL
10/20/2005 1:08:40 PM (6902 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Rebecca Barney/FL
10/20/2005 1:26:50 PM (6527 views)
THANKS, EVERYONE! - Scott Perry/PA
10/20/2005 5:22:43 PM (6692 views)
Re: THANKS, EVERYONE! - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 5:51:06 PM (6714 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Wendi See/SC
10/20/2005 10:26:17 PM (6628 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Tammy Knight/MO
10/20/2005 11:37:10 PM (6485 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/21/2005 7:20:16 AM (6340 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Jay Duncan/MO
10/21/2005 10:29:25 AM (8205 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/21/2005 3:15:39 PM (6592 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Robert Franco/OH
10/21/2005 1:14:46 PM (6312 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/23/2005 12:02:03 AM (6556 views)

This is a great subject that we all can benefit from. I have been waiting for a chance to comment on this.Let us consider the fact that almost every service provided in a settlement is linked to or a percentage factor of the selling price/loan amount. The RE commission, the Brokers commission, the title insurance commission. The settlement fees are pretty much set, but those that settle are usually linked to the title insurance anyway, as the prices of the houses go up, the loan amounts go up they all have a pay check that goes "up" ....EXCEPT those of us that are not linked in that fashion-I know here in Virginia ,title examination fees were a factor of the selling price a long time ago, back when the atty's were doing the searches them selves- they nixed that when abstractors took over and then the title insurance commission fees were taking the place of the money they gave up in that deal. It sure would be nice to go back to that. Would help us keep pace with everything without having to worry about the $25 CO searches. Lets say that the avg selling price is $250 K ( which is way low, but for these purposes-) and the title fee was $150.00- that would work out to a title fee of  0.0006 % (which just happens to be 1/100 of the prevailing RE commissions being charged in this part of the country -         $15000.00-) a small price to pay for what they are getting. Let me hear some feedback on this. Will be hard to implement it , I am sure, but at least it would be in line with everything else in the settlement process.

Now on to the fees that are being paid/charged for the title work. Please take some time to read section 8 of RESPA. It clearly defines who should be paid what- If you charge $150.00 for a search- that is what should show up on lines 1102 or 1103 of the HUD. If it is different, then that company that charged the extra amount is supposed to have performed what is preferred to as "core title" work, which is what we do, not a vendor.Here is where the other additional facts comes into play, if they are charging more for what you did, then they are required to carry liability insurance for the difference and are liable for that same percentage of any claim that might arise. There are a number of complications that enter into the situation as a result of the extra charges at this point. First, it is a violation of section 8 and there are sizable fines for doing this..I have contacted HUD and inquired about this practice and they have concurred that these are violations. It seems like most of the title companies just prefer to "look the other way" when doing their audits of the agents and they even do the same thing on in-house settlements. Of course their employees are not able to make any claims like this, but those of us that are independent can do so. I have seen HUD's from some companies that I know only pay $75 per search show $350.00 on both lines 1102 & 1103- that is $700.00 for something they pay $75 for- but, they are then liable for about 90% of any claim that might occur, but I am quite sure they do not know this aspect of this price gouging that is occurring right now.(this company is now on notice that they should stop this practice I would hope-as they solicit companies here on SOT)Oh, and according to HUD , these violations are each subject to $10,000 fines which is another thing they expose themselves to also.

We read on here almost every month about some company or title agent being fined by HUD for RESPA violations-kickbacks, etc. This is just another form of what they are looking into.

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Re: QUICK POLL - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/23/2005 6:30:34 AM (6444 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Anne Gilbert/VT
10/23/2005 1:55:15 PM (6552 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/24/2005 6:42:19 AM (6317 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Donna Grady/NC
10/23/2005 9:31:18 PM (6390 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Phyllis Agan/GA
10/28/2005 8:45:42 AM (6378 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Jacqueline Quaresimo/PA
10/29/2005 3:55:31 PM (5962 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - ANDREW MOLLER/CT
10/23/2005 7:43:10 PM (6448 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Bill Jones/NJ
10/24/2005 7:06:57 PM (6405 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Anne Gilbert/VT
10/24/2005 8:33:51 PM (6297 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/24/2005 9:32:09 PM (6163 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Lisa Scherer/NJ
10/24/2005 11:23:52 PM (6504 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/25/2005 6:11:22 PM (6437 views)

This has been bugging me . . . - Michaela Urban/OH
10/18/2005 9:57:44 AM (3799 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Robert Franco/OH
10/18/2005 10:44:27 AM (6713 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - John OConnor/IL
10/18/2005 12:21:30 PM (6729 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/18/2005 7:02:55 PM (8352 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2005 7:48:12 PM (6547 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/18/2005 10:06:16 PM (6519 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2005 11:16:17 PM (6578 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/19/2005 8:15:48 AM (6679 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Patrick Scott/IL
10/19/2005 12:51:25 PM (8164 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/20/2005 10:59:30 AM (6483 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Patrick Scott/IL
10/20/2005 12:18:39 PM (6528 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/20/2005 2:54:56 PM (6312 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Patrick Scott/IL
10/20/2005 7:15:04 PM (6314 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 12:30:26 PM (6726 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2005 5:34:20 PM (6561 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Kurt deVries/FL
10/19/2005 12:20:15 PM (6554 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Michaela Urban/OH
10/20/2005 10:48:49 AM (6574 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/20/2005 11:13:59 AM (6448 views)
Re: Oh, One More Thing, David... - Patrick Scott/IL
10/24/2005 10:53:34 PM (6417 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - george Hubka/MI
10/27/2005 8:43:35 PM (5981 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Jeanne Mendes/CA
10/27/2005 1:50:55 AM (6321 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/28/2005 8:53:09 AM (6283 views)

New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/17/2005 4:50:18 PM (3714 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/17/2005 5:20:20 PM (6371 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Scott Perry/PA
10/17/2005 6:03:20 PM (6050 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Iris Buchman/FL
10/17/2005 6:03:31 PM (6299 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Rachel Malone/PA
10/18/2005 8:08:51 AM (6559 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2005 5:05:08 PM (6473 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Rachel Malone/PA
10/19/2005 7:47:53 AM (6317 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Scott Perry/PA
10/19/2005 8:01:03 AM (6330 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Rachel Malone/PA
10/19/2005 8:05:39 AM (6425 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/19/2005 11:55:28 AM (6384 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/19/2005 3:10:49 PM (6321 views)

LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Becky Kale/IL
10/17/2005 2:22:31 PM (3701 views)
Re: LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Iris Buchman/FL
10/17/2005 6:02:25 PM (6244 views)
Re: LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Jason Sheppard/PA
10/30/2005 2:53:02 AM (5833 views)
Re: LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Becky Kale/IL
11/8/2005 3:38:02 PM (5738 views)
Re: LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Jason Sheppard/PA
11/21/2005 11:17:57 AM (5689 views)

Okay, another question. - Tammy Knight/MO
10/16/2005 10:18:06 PM (3503 views)
Re: Okay, another question. - Scott Perry/PA
10/16/2005 10:40:01 PM (6119 views)
Re: Okay, another question. - Kim Cowles/FL
10/17/2005 11:27:03 AM (6312 views)
Re: Okay, another question. - Bo Hope/AR
10/17/2005 6:25:38 PM (6409 views)
Re: Okay, another question. - Tammy Knight/MO
10/19/2005 3:13:32 PM (6319 views)

Fed up! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
10/15/2005 12:36:11 PM (3593 views)
Re: Fed up! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/15/2005 5:48:16 PM (5954 views)
Re: Fed up! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/16/2005 4:30:53 PM (5964 views)
Re: Fed up! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/16/2005 4:54:24 PM (5975 views)
Re: Fed up! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/17/2005 12:16:19 PM (6262 views)
Re: Fed up! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/17/2005 3:56:17 PM (6203 views)

indexing - Douglas Gallant/OH
10/15/2005 12:31:46 PM (3353 views)
Re: indexing - Scott Perry/PA
10/15/2005 3:07:59 PM (5916 views)
Re: indexing - monica froese/ME
10/15/2005 6:40:24 PM (5786 views)
Re: indexing - Robert Franco/OH
10/15/2005 8:05:07 PM (5792 views)
Re: indexing - monica froese/ME
10/15/2005 11:18:03 PM (5711 views)
STUCK ON "STUPID" - Scott Perry/PA
10/16/2005 1:06:12 PM (5772 views)
Re: indexing - Larry Crooks/OH
10/17/2005 3:34:21 PM (6123 views)

Questions about VMC's - Donna Grady/NC
10/14/2005 10:32:19 PM (2778 views)

Anyone heard of this company.... - Loretta Reed/MD
10/14/2005 1:16:42 PM (3530 views)
Re: Anyone heard of this company.... - Kurt deVries/FL
10/19/2005 12:12:30 PM (6348 views)

A word about prices... - Robert Franco/OH
10/13/2005 5:40:44 PM (3932 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Kurt deVries/FL
10/14/2005 9:39:16 AM (5937 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Robert Breakell/CT
10/14/2005 9:50:44 AM (5991 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Robert Franco/OH
10/14/2005 12:03:18 PM (6015 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Scott Perry/PA
10/14/2005 5:24:10 PM (5934 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Bo Hope/AR
10/16/2005 1:55:51 AM (5903 views)


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