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How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/24/2005 1:16:03 PM (2312 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 1:33:15 PM (2806 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Jay Duncan
2/24/2005 6:25:42 PM (2896 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Robert Breakell/CT
2/24/2005 7:40:56 PM (2753 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 6:20:10 AM (2759 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/24/2005 10:01:52 PM (2669 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/24/2005 10:57:34 PM (2734 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/25/2005 3:42:47 PM (2677 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/25/2005 8:09:54 PM (2703 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 6:03:13 PM (2725 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 7:23:47 PM (2655 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 8:35:47 PM (2643 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 9:11:44 PM (2678 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 9:22:34 PM (2640 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 9:12:57 PM (2611 views)

I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 11:26:53 AM (2208 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 8:33:25 PM (2800 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2005 10:30:50 PM (2730 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 11:53:23 PM (2584 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/25/2005 12:19:59 AM (2640 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 6:12:14 AM (2642 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 7:55:35 AM (2662 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 8:03:23 AM (2552 views)

My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/23/2005 10:40:59 PM (2320 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/23/2005 11:24:37 PM (2734 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/24/2005 12:12:22 AM (2776 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/24/2005 7:51:43 AM (2837 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2005 9:46:59 AM (2781 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/24/2005 9:56:34 AM (2749 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 1:20:14 PM (2719 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jay Duncan
2/25/2005 1:23:59 PM (2767 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 4:01:55 PM (2790 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 5:15:07 PM (2774 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 5:24:49 PM (2666 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Robert Franco/OH
2/25/2005 6:02:40 PM (2810 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Helene/GA
2/26/2005 12:10:59 AM (2766 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/25/2005 6:20:41 PM (2747 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/25/2005 6:52:40 PM (2678 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/25/2005 9:44:56 PM (2705 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/26/2005 8:57:45 AM (2994 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 10:21:54 AM (2749 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 11:59:39 AM (2858 views)


"Unlike other states, time is a marketable commodity in Connecticut because we have no unified county seats in which to search titles. we lose a lot of time on the road traveling between town halls. If the client is going to require additional and unnecessary work, they should be prepared to pay for it. I don't think that is a concept that is too difficult to understand."

This was the point that I was grasping at, not the idea that this is a job that can be done from home or anything else that would marginalize this job/profession.

The point that I am making is that whether you are self-employed, or you are running an abstracting service, there are costs that you incur no matter what - these are the costs that exist simply to do your job. You write these costs off at the end of the year (an if you aren't get a new accountant). While it is money that you had to spend, at the least it is not taxed, and it is money spent in order to make considerably more money.

The REAL commodity is in fact time when it comes to abstracts.

It takes time to learn your job, and gain a level of expertise.

It takes time to travel to various counties (which by the way, the idea that there is not a central place to get information in Ct. counties totally stinks, and justifies the additional cost even moreso when you have to research something you did right the first time - hats off to that business approach).

It takes time to prepare the abstract.

Depending on how you send the information back to an agency, it may take even more time to scan the information over to the client.

Again, I have been on BOTH sides of the fence, so I am not trying to be callous in any way. When you remove the cost of the preparation of the abstract (supplies and travel) the actual cost of the document is $10-$15. The remainder of the money made on that search is paid for YOUR TIME and the knowledge you built over TIME.

Now, I have no idea what the pay structure is in other states, or even outside of Southern NY. From what I have seen though, the people in the business are doing well for themselves. My frame of reference is this, so I apologize if what I have said comes off as rude. I just think that if this is a stie for abstractors and professionals in the title industry, it is worthwhile to be honest and on the same page with one another. When I see guys in their mid- to late-twenties driving around in BMWs and Lexus vehicles, I find it hard to talk about profit margins in a negative sense. And again, this may be wholly different elsewhere, but I can't imagine it being that different.

And considering the health - financially - of these abstractors, it is why I maintain that abstractors have to be more agreeable on the phone when dealing with their clients. I think charging for reexamination of something that has been already provided is the perfect response to be sure that the client is not going to call for mundane issues.

But, I am sure there are those that will disagree, and thankfully this is America so we can continue to discuss things that we don't see eye to eye on...

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Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 1:10:31 PM (2686 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 1:19:42 PM (2626 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/27/2005 5:58:14 PM (2602 views)

Arkansas Abstractors - Marty Munson/MI
2/23/2005 9:59:55 PM (2247 views)
Re: Arkansas Abstractors - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/24/2005 8:59:28 PM (2568 views)

Out of pocket and need some help... - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/23/2005 11:52:06 AM (2086 views)
Nevermind!! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/23/2005 12:05:00 PM (2639 views)


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Ohio County Addresses Bulk Release of Public Records - Robert Franco/OH
2/23/2005 10:42:08 AM (2238 views)
Re: Ohio County Addresses Bulk Release of Public Records - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/23/2005 7:07:26 PM (2753 views)

Radio Coverage of online "public" records - David Bloys/TX
2/22/2005 7:42:24 PM (2816 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/22/2005 9:39:56 PM (2919 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - David Bloys/TX
2/23/2005 12:12:46 AM (2951 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - James Guill/VA
2/24/2005 5:57:07 AM (2769 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - James Guill/VA
2/24/2005 6:04:30 AM (2801 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - James Guill/VA
2/24/2005 6:11:17 AM (2711 views)

SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - ROY PISTEY/PA
2/22/2005 4:14:19 PM (2103 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 4:24:52 PM (2751 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/22/2005 6:19:50 PM (2907 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/22/2005 6:56:34 PM (2845 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 7:03:49 PM (2860 views)

Subscriptions... - Robert Franco/OH
2/21/2005 4:56:19 PM (2119 views)
Re: Subscriptions...another suggestion - Loretta Reed/MD
2/21/2005 5:18:44 PM (2829 views)
Re: Subscriptions...another suggestion - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 11:55:17 AM (2761 views)
Re: Subscriptions...another suggestion - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/22/2005 1:48:50 PM (2747 views)
PS - I Just Checked Something - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/22/2005 1:52:52 PM (2703 views)
Re: Subscriptions...another suggestion - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 2:11:49 PM (2744 views)

Toner refill kits..... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/21/2005 1:01:27 PM (2743 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Amanda Fuller/TX
2/21/2005 1:39:05 PM (2886 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/21/2005 4:11:19 PM (2805 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/21/2005 4:12:14 PM (2769 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Amanda Fuller/TX
2/21/2005 4:29:17 PM (2778 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/21/2005 5:33:40 PM (2937 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Alan Hirsch/NY
2/21/2005 11:12:03 PM (3737 views)

Are Arizona/Nevada Online? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/21/2005 11:38:55 AM (2123 views)
Re: Are Arizona/Nevada Online? - David Bloys/TX
2/21/2005 1:03:45 PM (2802 views)
Re: Are Arizona/Nevada Online? - Robert Franco/OH
2/21/2005 2:28:50 PM (2768 views)
Re: Are Arizona/Nevada Online? - David Bloys/TX
2/21/2005 7:52:32 PM (2748 views)

Enhanced listing renewal - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/21/2005 4:30:42 AM (2044 views)
Re: Enhanced listing renewal - Robert Franco/OH
2/21/2005 9:57:47 AM (2736 views)

did you read this ChoicePoint Identity... - Donna Grady/NC
2/19/2005 10:25:22 PM (2234 views)
Re: did you read this ChoicePoint Identity... - Smitty Strickland/SC
2/20/2005 2:37:42 PM (2799 views)

TELEPHONE LISTING/PRIVACY #2 - Donna Grady/NC
2/19/2005 9:38:34 PM (1547 views)

Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/19/2005 3:51:44 PM (2188 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/19/2005 5:54:16 PM (2973 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/19/2005 6:13:22 PM (3097 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/19/2005 9:43:04 PM (3047 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
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Re: Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Fees Being Charged - Judy Nisonger/CA
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Re: Fees Being Charged - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: Fees Being Charged - Douglas Gallant/OH
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Re: Fees Being Charged - Ellen Malloy/MO
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Re: Fees Being Charged - Ellen Malloy/MO
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