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Thanks for everyone's help with my question about Abstracting Software. - KIM HAASE/MT
2/27/2005 11:48:40 PM (1671 views)

Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 2:36:11 PM (2243 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 2:50:51 PM (3203 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 7:23:33 PM (3219 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 7:25:37 PM (5324 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:20:00 PM (3170 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 3:07:54 PM (4158 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 3:21:23 PM (3251 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - David Bloys/TX
2/27/2005 6:48:41 PM (3220 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 7:35:27 PM (3133 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 9:15:25 PM (3162 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 9:00:44 AM (3259 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 9:17:00 AM (4165 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 2:31:42 PM (3212 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 6:54:04 PM (3147 views)

I was thinking...this may be cool - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:42:05 AM (2322 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 10:38:29 AM (3163 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 3:09:57 PM (4104 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 3:17:50 PM (3026 views)

Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 1:50:10 PM (2256 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 2:27:44 PM (3283 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 5:08:17 PM (3203 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 5:11:24 PM (3181 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 5:35:28 PM (3178 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 5:38:56 PM (3115 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:12:22 PM (3216 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:16:30 PM (3235 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 7:25:05 PM (3150 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/27/2005 10:33:25 PM (3218 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Cathy Iffergan/TX
2/28/2005 12:46:48 PM (3155 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Michelle Elko/TX
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Re: Need help in Texas - Doug Hollowell/TX
3/4/2005 8:24:07 PM (3169 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/5/2005 12:38:21 AM (3074 views)

Bank of America....Shame on you - Loretta Reed/MD
2/26/2005 10:22:34 AM (2368 views)
Re: Bank of America....Shame on you - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 10:24:37 AM (3136 views)
Re: Bank of America....Shame on you - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 5:01:18 PM (3064 views)


Real Title Services


More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/26/2005 8:37:47 AM (2641 views)
Re: More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 1:00:44 PM (3244 views)
Re: More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/26/2005 1:48:52 PM (3222 views)
Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/26/2005 9:17:22 PM (3027 views)
Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Amy Holder/NJ
2/27/2005 12:12:49 AM (3042 views)
Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 10:04:57 AM (3078 views)
Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Donna Grady/NC
2/27/2005 1:30:34 PM (3227 views)
MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 2:37:30 PM (3115 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 5:20:58 PM (3112 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 6:20:00 PM (3032 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Donna Grady/NC
2/27/2005 7:58:51 PM (3226 views)

Again, I have to agree with Mark.  Each state IS different. The abstractor in NC has one hand tied behind it's back trying to balance working for the MAN/ATTORNEY  or working for the title companies which is discouraged by the NC State Bar.  In the late 90's the NC State Bar made it their business to disbar attorneys that used independent title abstractors who had employees.  They were also investigating independents that worked for title companies.

To date the NC State Bar has made another proposal to make it unethical for attorneys to use independent abstractors that employ abstractors, JUST at the time that I was planning to expand and hire abstractors.  As a one person business, I can not compete for $45.00 a search unless I expand to several counties which I can not do alone.  The proposal also goes as far as telling the attorneys that they can not be connected to title vendor companies which is the way title vendors in NC have to operate because title searches have to be "rubber stamped" by an attorney or else it can be constituted as unauthorized practice of law.  There are three law firms that I know of that vendor companies send their NC & SC title searches to for review.  I applaud this set up because I have seen first hand how well it works.  To be honest, as an abstractor, I like to know that there is someone who legally understands any question that I have on a search that I can go to for an answer.  There are some issues in the field that I can decide based on my own experience and expertise but not every search is alike.  All of that is slipping away by title work being ordered by who knows who or where.  There are some people that I talk to when I return a search that do not have a clue how involved the search was as to why it took me so long to return the product.  When I ask them a question I get the same answer, Just make a note of it on your report sheet.  Some days it does not pay to be the only title searcher for my company.  If a search looks like it will take longer than two hours to complete I have to table it and move on so that I can make a profit that day.  Then I run the risk of not returning the search on time and never getting a search from that title company again.  But then if I spend too much time on one search then I can't get to some other title company's search that day and run the risk of never getting a search from them.  There is just so much that one person can do in one day.

So I agree with Mark that some of us do not have it as well as others because of the change in the title industry.  One big change being 24 hour turnaround.  My answer was to increase my personnel to increase my business until the NC State Bar's proposal popped up.  By the way, as always with the NC State Bar, they are dragging this out.  It was supposed to voted on in January.  Still no word on what was decided.  So we are in limbo. 

I wish I was not the only NC abstractor that keeps talking about this on this message board but some of the NC abstractors do not have a clue about this.  Most NC independents work for attorneys and do not carry E & O insurance because of the "old 1990's way of doing business". 

An attorney that I contract with also contracts with other independents who do not carry E & O insurance.  He just had a claim from one of those other independents so his
E & O will pay it out.  Problem is:  He pays that independent the same amount of money he pays me for a search.  And he told me that he wish it had been me cause then he would have been "off the hook".  It's NOT fair to me to have the overhead and not be paid more.  But if I want his business which substains me totally, then I just have to suck it up. 

So now you see why I feel like I am being jerked around and toyed with.  Realtors seem to be the best field in this title industry.  They make 3 to 6 % commission on the sale price, they don't have to be insured against mistakes, they have the luxury cars to drive their clients around in, and they don't have a clue about how to fill out a deceit sales contract to help the abstractor determine which property to search. 

So how many of you on this message board who are a ONE person abstracting company are really satisfied and able to make a better living at this than you did four years ago?  It seems that four years ago was when title searches had to be done in 24 or less hours.
  I would love to see you comment on this thread.

Folks, abstracting is a dying art.  Those of us who have been searching over 15 years have seen the changes and do not like what we see.  My paralegal friend was talking to her financial advisor who told her that her profession, title searcher, was becoming obsolete.  A local attorney here retired early because he was being called upon to fix the messes that the title companies have made in this area.  There is something wrong that needs to be fixed.  How do you fix it? and Who fixes it?

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Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 8:04:02 PM (3005 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/27/2005 8:14:53 PM (2945 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:15:56 PM (2983 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Amy Holder/NJ
2/27/2005 10:46:56 PM (3092 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 10:10:27 AM (3100 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Amy Holder/NJ
2/28/2005 10:36:23 AM (3116 views)

We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2005 9:26:15 PM (2252 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 12:25:02 PM (3109 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 12:35:42 PM (3096 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 1:08:49 PM (3047 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - PatriciaPalmer/PA
2/26/2005 2:55:48 PM (3061 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 6:05:50 PM (3061 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:31:53 PM (3093 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/27/2005 6:04:32 PM (3023 views)

need some opinions... - Amanda Fuller/TX
2/25/2005 11:37:47 AM (2380 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/25/2005 11:52:31 AM (3137 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jay Duncan/MO
2/25/2005 11:55:50 AM (3046 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/26/2005 11:28:44 PM (3001 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 10:44:04 AM (2934 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/25/2005 4:50:12 PM (3056 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/25/2005 5:18:03 PM (3010 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 4:39:40 PM (3011 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/28/2005 4:56:29 PM (3013 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 10:28:14 AM (2968 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:33:37 PM (3045 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
3/1/2005 3:13:09 PM (2934 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 5:38:43 PM (2911 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 2:54:09 PM (2970 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 11:24:54 AM (2822 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Ms. A/MO
3/1/2005 12:15:16 PM (2899 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:36:34 PM (2923 views)

ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Slade Smith/OH
2/25/2005 5:22:20 AM (3050 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Robert Breakell/CT
2/25/2005 7:57:34 AM (2869 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Slade Smith/OH
2/25/2005 9:14:58 AM (2816 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2005 8:26:05 AM (2835 views)

Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Susie/OH
2/24/2005 7:14:12 PM (2228 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 10:32:17 AM (2971 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 4:15:06 PM (2886 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Samson Ugorji/MD
2/28/2005 11:53:36 PM (2868 views)

How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/24/2005 1:16:03 PM (2380 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 1:33:15 PM (2992 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Jay Duncan
2/24/2005 6:25:42 PM (3070 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Robert Breakell/CT
2/24/2005 7:40:56 PM (2953 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 6:20:10 AM (2953 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/24/2005 10:01:52 PM (2849 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/24/2005 10:57:34 PM (2923 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/25/2005 3:42:47 PM (2833 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/25/2005 8:09:54 PM (2904 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 6:03:13 PM (2898 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 7:23:47 PM (2824 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 8:35:47 PM (2825 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 9:11:44 PM (2873 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 9:22:34 PM (2820 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 9:12:57 PM (2801 views)

I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 11:26:53 AM (2281 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 8:33:25 PM (2958 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2005 10:30:50 PM (2901 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 11:53:23 PM (2741 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/25/2005 12:19:59 AM (2820 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 6:12:14 AM (2806 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 7:55:35 AM (2854 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 8:03:23 AM (2718 views)

My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/23/2005 10:40:59 PM (2382 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/23/2005 11:24:37 PM (2877 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/24/2005 12:12:22 AM (2923 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/24/2005 7:51:43 AM (3027 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2005 9:46:59 AM (2957 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/24/2005 9:56:34 AM (2938 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 1:20:14 PM (2865 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jay Duncan
2/25/2005 1:23:59 PM (2950 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 4:01:55 PM (2977 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 5:15:07 PM (2950 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 5:24:49 PM (2808 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Robert Franco/OH
2/25/2005 6:02:40 PM (2997 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Helene/GA
2/26/2005 12:10:59 AM (2947 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/25/2005 6:20:41 PM (2914 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/25/2005 6:52:40 PM (2859 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/25/2005 9:44:56 PM (2902 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/26/2005 8:57:45 AM (3149 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 10:21:54 AM (2899 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 11:59:39 AM (3060 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 1:10:31 PM (2872 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 1:19:42 PM (2818 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/27/2005 5:58:14 PM (2780 views)

Arkansas Abstractors - Marty Munson/MI
2/23/2005 9:59:55 PM (2313 views)
Re: Arkansas Abstractors - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/24/2005 8:59:28 PM (2720 views)

Out of pocket and need some help... - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/23/2005 11:52:06 AM (2155 views)
Nevermind!! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/23/2005 12:05:00 PM (2810 views)


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