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Ethical practice as an abstractor - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
1/20/2005 2:45:56 PM (1686 views)

What Our Clients Want - David Bloys/TX
1/20/2005 9:13:11 AM (2375 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Smitty Strickland/SC
1/20/2005 5:40:34 PM (2836 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/20/2005 6:26:44 PM (3002 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - David Bloys/TX
1/21/2005 8:11:46 AM (2844 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Kurt deVries/FL
1/21/2005 9:57:35 AM (2876 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Ellen Malloy/MO
1/21/2005 10:43:11 AM (2894 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Kurt deVries/FL
1/21/2005 11:59:48 AM (3055 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - David Bloys/TX
1/21/2005 1:03:18 PM (2771 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 12:10:21 PM (3044 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Kurt deVries/FL
1/21/2005 12:16:38 PM (2889 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/21/2005 4:47:59 PM (2901 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - David Bloys/TX
1/22/2005 10:05:55 AM (2916 views)

Curt,

You are correct. The courthouse records are not always correct, so how can any clone of the courthouse records be correct? When we find errors in the courthouse records the clerks correct them, but there is no subsequent correction to the clones that have been bought in bulk from the county. Even a judges order to seal a record has no affect on anything except the official public record. Your own state of Florida attempted to protect it's citizens by allowing you to request your social security number be redacted from a document if it was found online. Your governer found his online and promptly asked for a received a redaction. But it did not affect the cloned records or any clones of the clones that have already been sold.

This example relates to an error made by your governor when he included a social security number on a document that he had reason to believe would never be packaged and exported all over the world wide web. But it is just as valid when applied to a clerical error that is subsequently corrected. In either case, the error is only corrected in the official public records. This is probably why every site offering public records online that I have visited has a disclaimer that the information provided is not "the official public record".

I have no problem with your purchasing the records in bulk from courthouse for inhouse use provided it is limited to inhouse. But anyone can do the same thing that you did and this is a problem. I noticed recently when one company purchased the records just as you have and then claimed their software could provide an online do it yourself title search that you also had a problem. The foreign outsource companies, agragators, marketing companies, or anyone else can purchase the county records in bulk at a fraction of the cost and use it for whatever purpose profits them.

Legislators and courts all over the country are beginning to recognize the folly of the laws that treat the entire public record the same as one public record. Not too long ago a one court stated, the "whole" of the records deserves greater protection than any single record. The Supreme Court have consistantly stated the same thing in that the right to privacy outweighs any right of the public access.

Their is no doubt there are errors in the public record and in the laws that govern access. Both the laws and the records are being corrected at the source but have no affect on the records already released in error.

Thank you for your kind words regarding my mini-bio. I wish I had met you at the conference. We could have spent some time swapping stories. I think I would have liked that.

Regarding the exchanges with Bill. I really felt a little sorry for him. I think he is probably a very good man but he seemed to have little knowledge of the damage his product is causing to the industry or the people we serve. I don't really believe his statement that he felt no ethical obligation to the people he is hurting. I just don't think he can do anything about it without damaging his companies bottom line.

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Re: What Our Clients Want - Michelle Bernard/LA
1/21/2005 7:50:24 PM (2953 views)

NALTEA Certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/19/2005 11:21:12 PM (2143 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Jay Duncan/MO
1/20/2005 8:08:04 AM (2933 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Smitty Strickland/SC
1/20/2005 5:36:49 PM (2920 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/20/2005 6:53:29 PM (2993 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Breakell/CT
1/20/2005 7:25:02 PM (2854 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Breakell/CT
1/20/2005 7:25:47 PM (2910 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/20/2005 9:28:13 PM (2861 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/20/2005 9:38:45 PM (2909 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 11:58:17 AM (2885 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Franco/OH
1/21/2005 1:14:13 PM (2919 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 1:50:10 PM (2875 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Franco/OH
1/21/2005 2:31:44 PM (2868 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/21/2005 6:15:24 PM (2863 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 7:35:29 PM (2890 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Franco/OH
1/21/2005 7:42:15 PM (2931 views)

Alta dues - Helene/GA
1/19/2005 9:21:42 PM (2262 views)
Re: Alta dues - Jay Duncan
1/19/2005 11:07:42 PM (2960 views)
Re: Alta dues - Jamie Shoemaker/NY
1/19/2005 11:59:49 PM (2960 views)
Re: Alta dues - Jay Duncan
1/20/2005 8:06:18 AM (3084 views)
Re: Alta dues - Glenda Hodge/TN
1/20/2005 1:41:26 AM (2928 views)
Re: Alta dues - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/20/2005 6:29:28 PM (3078 views)
Re: Alta dues - Helene/GA
1/20/2005 11:39:33 PM (2934 views)
Re: Alta dues - Donna Grady/NC
1/20/2005 11:53:45 PM (3004 views)
Re: Alta dues - Donna Grady/NC
1/20/2005 11:54:20 PM (2949 views)
Re: Alta dues - Glenda Hodge/TN
1/25/2005 10:47:20 PM (2969 views)
Re: Alta dues - Robert Breakell/CT
1/20/2005 7:36:54 PM (2985 views)

The Rabbit - Jay Duncan/MO
1/19/2005 7:02:26 PM (2050 views)
Re: The Rabbit - Jamie Shoemaker/NY
1/19/2005 7:29:50 PM (2863 views)
Re: The Rabbit - Kurt deVries/FL
1/20/2005 10:32:47 AM (2785 views)


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David Bloys I am soooo sorry! - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/19/2005 3:24:47 PM (1821 views)

Impressed - Robert Breakell/CT
1/18/2005 7:26:49 PM (2476 views)
Re: Impressed - Ellen/MO
1/19/2005 2:35:35 PM (3031 views)
Re: Impressed - Robert Franco/OH
1/19/2005 3:04:48 PM (3034 views)
Re: Impressed - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/19/2005 3:33:04 PM (2913 views)
Re: Impressed - Jay Duncan/MO
1/19/2005 8:32:56 PM (4027 views)
Re: Impressed - Donna Grady/NC
1/19/2005 9:15:25 PM (2929 views)

Mary's Mom - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2005 2:13:45 PM (2184 views)
Re: Mary's Mom - Jamie Shoemaker/NY
1/19/2005 9:53:57 AM (2808 views)
Re: Mary's Mom - Mary Mitchel/NY
1/21/2005 9:13:43 AM (3004 views)
Re: Mary's Mom - Mary Mitchel/NY
1/21/2005 9:13:44 AM (2796 views)

NALTEA 2005 Winter Conference - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
1/18/2005 11:26:18 AM (2203 views)
Re: NALTEA 2005 Winter Conference - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2005 1:52:47 PM (2965 views)

A good story revisited - Jay Duncan/MO
1/17/2005 11:13:00 PM (2172 views)
Re: A good story revisited - Michelle Bernard/LA
1/18/2005 1:33:29 AM (2969 views)
Re: A good story revisited - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/18/2005 11:28:33 PM (2921 views)

What a weekend! - Robert Franco/OH
1/17/2005 4:47:17 PM (2245 views)
Re: What a weekend! - Smitty Strickland/SC
1/17/2005 5:52:00 PM (3086 views)
Re: What a weekend! - Robert Franco/OH
1/17/2005 6:08:10 PM (2941 views)
Re: What a weekend! - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR
1/18/2005 10:14:14 AM (2871 views)
Re: What a weekend! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
1/18/2005 11:47:02 AM (2853 views)
Re: What a weekend! - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/MO
1/18/2005 6:52:07 PM (2877 views)
Re: What a weekend! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
1/19/2005 3:03:36 PM (2890 views)
Re: What a weekend! - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2005 2:05:15 PM (2790 views)

ALL AMERICAN DOCUMENTS SERVICES - Rebecca Barney/FL
1/17/2005 10:51:58 AM (2481 views)
Re: ALL AMERICAN DOCUMENTS SERVICES - Jay Young/NE
1/18/2005 11:38:25 AM (2920 views)

Taking a stand - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/17/2005 1:46:48 AM (2222 views)
Re: Taking a stand - Jay Duncan/MO
1/17/2005 6:13:44 PM (4049 views)

Winter Conference - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/16/2005 11:55:30 PM (2027 views)
Re: Winter Conference - Smitty Strickland/SC
1/17/2005 5:54:12 PM (2920 views)
Re: Winter Conference - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/17/2005 7:29:10 PM (2977 views)

Just my thoughts... - Donna Grady/NC
1/16/2005 2:22:33 PM (2319 views)
Re: Just my thoughts... - Michelle Bernard/LA
1/16/2005 6:57:41 PM (3015 views)
Re: Just my thoughts... - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/16/2005 11:11:03 PM (2905 views)
Re: Just my thoughts... - Kurt deVries/FL
1/17/2005 11:58:21 AM (2960 views)
Re: Just my thoughts... - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/17/2005 4:27:39 PM (2888 views)
Re: Just my thoughts... - Robert Breakell/CT
1/18/2005 7:48:49 PM (3046 views)
Re: Just my thoughts... - Kurt deVries/FL
1/19/2005 4:25:29 PM (2858 views)


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