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THIS IS IT... - Jay Duncan/MO
1/3/2005 9:24:45 AM (2733 views)

Happy New Year! - Robert Franco/OH
12/31/2004 6:31:45 PM (2135 views)
Re: Happy New Year! - Jay Duncan
1/1/2005 11:43:50 AM (3264 views)

Little Scanner - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/31/2004 5:58:12 PM (2129 views)
Re: Little Scanner - Robert Franco/OH
12/31/2004 6:34:39 PM (3293 views)
Re: Little Scanner - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/31/2004 8:20:25 PM (3318 views)
Re: Little Scanner - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/1/2005 5:29:59 PM (3324 views)

Mortgage Fraud Epidemic - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 1:36:04 AM (3014 views)

Just trying to learn - Want to be an abstractor/OH
12/29/2004 6:58:06 PM (2190 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/29/2004 8:23:20 PM (3560 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - Kurt deVries/FL
12/29/2004 10:01:18 PM (3390 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - Want to be an abstractor/OH
12/29/2004 10:42:51 PM (3369 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/29/2004 10:55:04 PM (3333 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - I wanna be/OH
12/30/2004 6:29:43 PM (3285 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/30/2004 6:50:51 PM (3373 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - Robert Breakell/CT
12/30/2004 7:01:33 PM (3343 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - I wanna be/OH
12/30/2004 7:07:55 PM (3315 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - kevin ahern/CT
12/31/2004 6:33:26 AM (3319 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - susan kostalas/PA
1/2/2005 12:30:42 PM (3225 views)




SOT Hospitality Suite - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 5:30:26 PM (1604 views)

ZENO DATA? - Rebecca Barney/FL
12/29/2004 3:51:01 PM (2570 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 4:17:50 PM (3355 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Kurt deVries/FL
12/29/2004 10:03:52 PM (3270 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/30/2004 4:56:37 PM (3434 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Robert Franco/OH
12/30/2004 5:13:51 PM (3243 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/30/2004 5:18:04 PM (3306 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - central search inc central search inc/WI
12/30/2004 3:26:30 PM (3380 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Rebecca Barney/FL
1/3/2005 9:38:49 AM (3447 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Rebecca Barney/FL
1/3/2005 9:41:01 AM (3332 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Kurt deVries/FL
1/3/2005 10:25:13 AM (3228 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/3/2005 12:19:10 PM (3253 views)

Confusing Instructions from Client - Larry Crooks/OH
12/29/2004 8:11:41 AM (2381 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/29/2004 10:53:04 AM (3319 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Larry Crooks/OH
12/29/2004 1:49:56 PM (3232 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 1:57:11 PM (3308 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Rebecca Barney/FL
12/29/2004 10:54:45 AM (3152 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 11:03:05 AM (3217 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 11:15:26 AM (3316 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/29/2004 6:18:12 PM (3128 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 6:50:57 PM (3070 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/29/2004 10:55:56 PM (3077 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 12:38:52 PM (3245 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 12:38:55 PM (3281 views)

Ethics - Robert Breakell/CT
12/28/2004 6:55:44 PM (1751 views)

Follow-up on the E & O Article - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
12/27/2004 4:23:14 PM (1709 views)

Another Day Off - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/27/2004 12:16:13 AM (2339 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/27/2004 4:14:33 PM (3157 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/27/2004 5:14:23 PM (3188 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Robert Franco/OH
12/27/2004 5:22:04 PM (3113 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/27/2004 6:00:35 PM (3177 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/27/2004 11:29:18 PM (3144 views)

County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/26/2004 8:58:32 PM (3259 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/28/2004 2:29:51 PM (4472 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/28/2004 7:29:53 PM (3041 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
12/29/2004 5:41:02 AM (3032 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 8:28:11 AM (2991 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/29/2004 12:37:55 PM (3029 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 1:50:27 PM (3076 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/29/2004 3:18:01 PM (3152 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/29/2004 3:23:36 PM (4694 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 6:45:11 PM (2996 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/30/2004 10:42:05 AM (3054 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 2:45:26 PM (3029 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/30/2004 3:51:37 PM (2959 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 5:53:44 PM (4647 views)

The fact that you could check the accuracy of the information that I provided means that the data has already made its way into hundreds, if not thousands, of databases nationally, if not worldwide. 
Makes my point exactly. The information would not be out there if it had never been released in digital form. In fact I was unable to verify all of your information precisely because it is held within the four walls of your county courthouse instead of being spewed all over the world.

By posting it, I have not acted particularly recklessly, nor have I endangered myself or anyone else further than they were already endangered by the free and public information available.
Is this what you tell your clients concerning their information that may or may not already be available to the internet?

As for my clients and my client's customers, they are handled in a secure method to prevent unauthorized reciept or access by unintended parties.  Even if they were not, nothing the search operations division of CMS handles is anything other than public record.    

So if it is nothing except public record, why do you bother to protect your clients? It would be unethical and unprofessional to do otherwise but you want the county clerks to forget ethics and professionally for your convenience? Additionally your clients are under several laws restraining how they and you expose this information and to whom.

Charles, not everyones date of birth, social security number and other information you revealed and called the public record is in fact the public record. There are some 800 exemptions to the Public Records laws already concerning everything from your pets medical records to the indentity of minor children, to the identifiers of elected and appointed officials.

As for Al Qaeda and other terrorist and criminal organizations, you have to remember one thing.  In order to have a successful operation, you have to have personnel on the ground.  If they already have personnel on the ground here, what's to stop them from going to the county courthouses and looking up the information in person?

The completion of a successful mission begins with inteligence which no longer requires personell on the ground. We use sattelites and aircraft to gather much of the information we need. al Qada uses the internet in the same way. But we stupidly make it easy for them to gather 80% of all the information they need for a successful mission over the internet.

Identity thieves, stalkers and terrorist groups access the public records by the Internet for the sake of their own security and convenience. Identity thieves use it because it allows them to quickly steal thousands of identities while remaining totally anonymous. Stalker Liam Youens expressed suprise when he entered this on his website, "It's accually obsene what you can find out about a person on the internet." The information he had found cost Amy Boyer her life. Mortgage fraud scams are costing our clients millions and they are gathering the information they need with convenience of online access. 

Yes, all of these people could find this same information at the local courthouse, but they couldn't retrieve it in bulk digital form. They prefer internet access for the same reason you do Charles, convenience. The same reason your identity thief preffered to hack into the supposedly very secure database as opposed to finding it in the paper record at the courthouse. 

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Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
1/3/2005 10:23:22 AM (4655 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
1/4/2005 12:35:28 AM (4352 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
1/4/2005 9:25:02 AM (2938 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/30/2004 7:08:22 PM (2895 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 1:01:13 PM (2977 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 1:01:14 PM (2896 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Robert Franco/OH
12/30/2004 4:08:31 PM (3016 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 4:28:40 PM (2928 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
12/29/2004 7:15:27 PM (2914 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 10:18:32 PM (2884 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
12/30/2004 6:23:28 AM (2953 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: County purges Web site - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/31/2004 2:37:24 PM (2897 views)
Re: County purges Web site - John Redhead/NY
1/4/2005 10:55:11 AM (2877 views)

I was very excited to see... - Loretta Reed/MD
12/26/2004 10:50:19 AM (1804 views)

CHRISTMAS - Michelle Bernard/LA
12/25/2004 5:57:57 PM (1651 views)

Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Jennifer Masters/MI
12/23/2004 2:04:47 AM (2290 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - kevin ahern/CT
12/23/2004 5:42:21 AM (3331 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Kim Cowles/WI
12/23/2004 9:23:16 AM (3151 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Robert Franco/OH
12/23/2004 10:41:17 AM (3171 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/23/2004 2:46:11 PM (3113 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Robert Breakell/CT
12/23/2004 8:49:24 PM (3100 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - kevin ahern/CT
12/24/2004 7:29:13 AM (3193 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Robert Franco/OH
12/24/2004 10:55:38 AM (3125 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - kevin ahern/CT
12/24/2004 1:42:28 PM (3193 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/27/2004 5:36:47 PM (3088 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Larry Crooks/OH
12/29/2004 8:34:20 AM (3012 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 10:51:37 AM (2997 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 1:33:07 PM (2991 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Jennifer Masters/MI
2/1/2005 10:56:16 PM (3048 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Jennifer Masters/MI
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