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W-9 - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/15/2004 2:55:47 AM (2292 views)
Re: W-9 - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/15/2004 9:54:18 AM (3308 views)
Re: W-9 - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/15/2004 6:38:33 PM (3173 views)

One Big Mess! - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/15/2004 2:43:07 AM (2476 views)
Re: One Big Mess! - Loretta Reed/MD
12/15/2004 9:00:28 AM (3303 views)
Re: One Big Mess! - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/15/2004 9:51:51 AM (3440 views)
Re: One Big Mess! - Robert Franco/OH
12/15/2004 10:46:02 AM (3398 views)
Re: One Big Mess! - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 11:20:43 AM (3437 views)
Re: One Big Mess! - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/15/2004 6:37:48 PM (3378 views)

Good tips! - Jay Duncan/MO
12/14/2004 9:08:36 AM (1835 views)

REMINDER! - Robert Franco/OH
12/13/2004 12:40:10 PM (2972 views)

Glad I found this message board - Gregory Butzek/WI
12/13/2004 11:50:46 AM (1820 views)




Witness Only Closings - Danielle Nelson/WI
12/13/2004 11:48:27 AM (2632 views)
Re: Witness Only Closings - kevin ahern/CT
12/13/2004 1:26:46 PM (3381 views)
Re: Witness Only Closings - Susan Pullins/OH
12/13/2004 6:14:39 PM (4774 views)

211m U.S. residents' records for sale - David Bloys/TX
12/12/2004 10:28:35 PM (3381 views)
Re: 211m U.S. residents' records for sale - Garland Burnett/NM
12/13/2004 4:12:02 AM (3389 views)
Re: 211m U.S. residents' records for sale - David Bloys/TX
12/13/2004 8:34:14 AM (3335 views)
Re: 211m U.S. residents' records for sale - kevin ahern/CT
12/13/2004 11:04:25 AM (3450 views)
Re: 211m U.S. residents' records for sale - David Bloys/TX
12/13/2004 11:26:21 AM (3382 views)
Found the article - David Bloys/TX
12/13/2004 12:19:14 PM (3456 views)
Found her - David Bloys/TX
12/13/2004 3:50:01 PM (4826 views)

Bulk Release of public records - David Bloys/TX
12/12/2004 11:23:03 AM (2942 views)

Education - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/12/2004 1:28:00 AM (2279 views)
Survey Says - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/13/2004 9:50:01 PM (3364 views)

ALTA, Hello??? Anyone there??? - Jay Duncan/MO
12/11/2004 12:27:52 PM (3476 views)

Self Serve title searches - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/10/2004 6:55:00 PM (3360 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/10/2004 7:24:48 PM (3532 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/11/2004 12:49:33 AM (3546 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - kevin ahern/CT
12/11/2004 6:50:05 AM (3613 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Kurt deVries/FL
12/13/2004 9:30:48 AM (3413 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/14/2004 10:07:42 AM (3470 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/14/2004 1:14:00 PM (4871 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/14/2004 2:16:01 PM (3475 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2004 2:58:15 PM (3428 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/14/2004 3:45:08 PM (3452 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/14/2004 4:41:42 PM (3426 views)

     Rebecca Shaefer's murder is a red herring.  See my previous post.  The information used was public record.  The fact that it was accessed at online is not relevant to the discussion, as it could be equally accessed from the physical records of the courthouse as well.  The criminal who killed her could have just as easily walked into the county courthouse, opened a deed book, and found her name, address, etc...  Unless you want to make the point that all county records should be private and controlled, and only searchable only by county staff personnel, and any information released should be recorded as to who it was released to, with appropriate prosecution and punishment for release of that information to any third party (which would promptly put all of us out of business).             
    You have exactly made my points from before.  All my information is already available over the internet, for free in fact, if you know the proper places to look.  The information is treated as a commodity exactly because it is public and available as a compilation from several different locations, not only the public record.  The "Value Added" service that the companies you reference is providing is that they are taking all the information and compiling it all into one place.  Where do you think all those credit card applications with all the information pre-filled out come from?  The information you provide any time you apply for anything from a credit card, to cable, to telephone service, to a vehicle loan is already bought and sold.  You can take every single county record off line, and the information will still be available from dozens of different sources.  
     I will not be made afraid by the fact that some deranged psychopath might decide open a search, choose my particular name out of thin air, and come kill me.  He could just as easily go down to the county courthouse run my name in the county computers direcly tied to the mainframe hosting the records and get the same information.  For free, without any record of ever doing it.  If someone is that intent to kill me, they're going to succeed.  If they're just deranged, then they're going to kill someone randomly, and if it happens to be me, it doesn't matter if they get the records from the county office building physically or if they access the records from a remote location, I'm still dead.

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Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/14/2004 6:15:06 PM (3428 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/15/2004 10:13:20 AM (3460 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 11:11:56 AM (5041 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/15/2004 2:09:18 PM (3455 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 3:15:08 PM (3520 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/15/2004 4:22:32 PM (3468 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 5:16:14 PM (3495 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/15/2004 6:29:10 PM (3443 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 8:15:17 PM (3424 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2004 2:05:32 PM (3403 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/15/2004 11:38:13 AM (3314 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - kevin ahern/CT
12/15/2004 7:24:57 AM (3452 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/15/2004 3:58:18 PM (3363 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Michelle Bernard/LA
12/13/2004 6:31:11 PM (3419 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/11/2004 12:14:16 PM (3523 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - John Redhead/NY
12/14/2004 12:13:49 PM (3458 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/14/2004 6:29:35 PM (3460 views)

Is Your Business Worth It??? - Jay Duncan/MO
12/10/2004 6:02:18 PM (2725 views)

infinity data - Robert Breakell/CT
12/10/2004 8:53:35 AM (2456 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 9:47:46 AM (3493 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Breakell/CT
12/10/2004 3:58:48 PM (3385 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/10/2004 1:02:43 PM (3395 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Breakell/CT
12/10/2004 3:49:12 PM (3396 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/10/2004 4:19:45 PM (3406 views)
Re: infinity data - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/10/2004 5:05:05 PM (3385 views)
Re: infinity data - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/10/2004 6:34:52 PM (3184 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/10/2004 6:54:49 PM (3268 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/10/2004 6:51:46 PM (3346 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 8:06:25 PM (3254 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 7:24:35 PM (3222 views)
Re: infinity data - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/11/2004 11:58:01 AM (3263 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/11/2004 1:04:18 PM (3286 views)
Re: infinity data - Jay Duncan/MO
12/11/2004 4:15:11 PM (3301 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 6:55:13 PM (3231 views)
Re: infinity data - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/10/2004 7:18:23 PM (3070 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 7:35:47 PM (3130 views)
Re: infinity data - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/11/2004 12:35:05 AM (3051 views)
Re: infinity data - kevin ahern/CT
12/11/2004 6:26:32 AM (3254 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/11/2004 10:25:01 AM (3102 views)
Re: infinity data - Jay Duncan/MO
12/11/2004 11:55:46 AM (3129 views)
Re: infinity data - kevin ahern/CT
12/11/2004 1:11:30 PM (3173 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/12/2004 12:46:21 AM (3123 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/11/2004 1:17:36 PM (2977 views)
Re: infinity data - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/11/2004 3:21:11 PM (3066 views)
Re: infinity data - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/12/2004 1:32:47 PM (3069 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/12/2004 2:14:26 PM (3008 views)

Baby - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/9/2004 6:37:29 PM (2276 views)
Re: Baby - Robert Franco/OH
12/9/2004 6:43:12 PM (3199 views)
Re: Baby - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/10/2004 1:00:54 AM (3029 views)
Re: Baby - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/10/2004 1:01:10 AM (3082 views)
Re: Baby - Jay Duncan
12/10/2004 7:54:50 AM (3058 views)
Re: Baby - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/10/2004 10:25:55 AM (3181 views)

Maryland Dailup system - anonymous/MD
12/9/2004 8:45:59 AM (2341 views)
Re: Maryland Dailup system - Loretta Reed/MD
12/9/2004 11:39:17 PM (3041 views)


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